20M KX-1 T/R Problem

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20M KX-1 T/R Problem

k1um
Other then a relay, wonder what could be causing this problem:

I am having trouble with the T/R relay circuit hanging up on 20m only - 40 works fine.
The RX works on 20, then when I key to transmit it works but then wont go back to receive properly. The signals are very weak and I have to turn the KX-1 off and on to reset.

It sounds like one of the relays is hanging up - I think perhaps relay K1.  Am I correct?  But why only on 20m and not 40m?

Thanks
Ken K1UM

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Moving the bands on k1 modules

Krister Eriksson
Hi,
I have ordered one K1-4 plus KFL1-2, should soon arrive here in SM.

I have choosen 40/30/20/17 mtrs in k1-4 and 80/15 on KFL1-2 board and
will probably build this way, but i just wondering about doing this way:
80/40/30/20 K1-4 and 17/15 on KFL1-2, is that possible with the existing
parts included in kit?

By this way i will not need to swap boards when changing between 40 and
80 mtrs..

73 / SM5KRI Chris
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RE: Moving the bands on k1 modules

Don Wilhelm-3
Chris,

The K1 4 band board shares the low pass filter with 2 bands, so 80 and 40
meters as the lower band pair will not work because the 2nd harmonic energy
from 80 would not be attenuated by a LPF that will also pass 40 meter
signals.  40 and 30 meters work with the same LPF and 20 and 17 (or 15)
meters will work with the same LPF, and that is what is done on the 4 band
board.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> Hi,
> I have ordered one K1-4 plus KFL1-2, should soon arrive here in SM.
>
> I have choosen 40/30/20/17 mtrs in k1-4 and 80/15 on KFL1-2 board and
> will probably build this way, but i just wondering about doing this way:
> 80/40/30/20 K1-4 and 17/15 on KFL1-2, is that possible with the existing
> parts included in kit?
>
> By this way i will not need to swap boards when changing between 40 and
> 80 mtrs..
>
> 73 / SM5KRI Chris
>

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Re: Moving the bands on k1 modules

Sandy W5TVW
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The way the K1 RF boards are designed, the 4 band one won't work on 80/40/30/20!
I have my 4 band board on 40/30/20/15 and an additional 2 band board for 160/80.

73,
Sandy W5TVW
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| Hi,
| I have ordered one K1-4 plus KFL1-2, should soon arrive here in SM.
|
| I have choosen 40/30/20/17 mtrs in k1-4 and 80/15 on KFL1-2 board and
| will probably build this way, but i just wondering about doing this way:
| 80/40/30/20 K1-4 and 17/15 on KFL1-2, is that possible with the existing
| parts included in kit?
|
| By this way i will not need to swap boards when changing between 40 and
| 80 mtrs..
|
| 73 / SM5KRI Chris
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| 724 70 Västerås
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Re: Moving the bands on k1 modules

David Toepfer
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Because of the way the K1 4-band board is designed (2 bands share a set of
bandpass and lowpass filters (40/30 and 20/17) as opposed to the 2-band board
which can accept any two bands, since each has it's own set of filters) you can
not do as you describe.  You can't get much more out of it than what is
described on the elecraft site.

If you want 80/40/30/20 in one case you could get a KX1 + KXB3080, but those
are the only bands you can get in it.

dt
.


--- Krister Eriksson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have ordered one K1-4 plus KFL1-2, should soon arrive here in SM.
>
> I have choosen 40/30/20/17 mtrs in k1-4 and 80/15 on KFL1-2 board and
> will probably build this way, but i just wondering about doing this way:
> 80/40/30/20 K1-4 and 17/15 on KFL1-2, is that possible with the existing
> parts included in kit?
>
> By this way i will not need to swap boards when changing between 40 and
> 80 mtrs..
>
> 73 / SM5KRI Chris
> --
> Krister Eriksson
> Ringduvegatan 23
> 724 70 V�ster�s
>
> [Hamradio: SM5KRI]
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>
>
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> Krister Eriksson
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Re: Moving the bands on k1 modules

Mike Morrow-3
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> You can't get much more out of it than what is
>described on the elecraft site.

Except that, rather than supporting 40/30/20m plus either 17 OR 15 meters, the KFL1-4 filter board is actually a little more versatile.  As supplied, it supports 40/30m, plus ANY TWO of 20m, 17m, or 15m.

I don't know why Elecraft doesn't take credit for this.  Every once in a while a person comes around who doesn't care about 20m coverage.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: Moving the bands on k1 modules

Krister Eriksson
Thank You all OM for answering my Question..


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