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Tox

4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.

Thanks,

Scott
AD6YT
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

On 11/7/2019 12:47 PM, Tox wrote:
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable*RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).

Why 4K? I own a half dozen 23-in 1920x1080 Samsung displays that
nominally use 14VDC, but run just fine on 12-13VDC. The major source of
noise for most displays is the switch-mode power supply (wall wart) that
provides that DC voltage. I cut the cable for the noisy power supply,
splice it to an old linear supply. I've gone a step further -- I run the
monitors in my shack from a big 12V battery that runs other ham gear,
and float-charge that battery with a suitable charge regulator.

Since I bought these (about $200 each), the trend has been to higher DC
voltage. Also, larger and higher res displays tend to use higher voltage.

73, Jim K9YC
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Richard Thorne-4

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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Scott,

I've been looking at the following monitor
https://www.newegg.com/lg-43ud79-b-43-uhd/p/N82E16824025629 The price
recently dropped as it used to be in the $600+ range.

Watch the video on the LG site. You can have multiple inputs. For
example your main computer and maybe the output of the K4. It will be
nice if and when DXLabs or N1MM can integrate dx spots onto the
display. Imagine having the K4 plugged into a large monitor and a mouse
plugged into the K4. When a spot you need or want shows up on the
pan-adapter use the K4 mouse, click on the spot and bam, the rig is on
frequency.

I'm currently running a Dell 34" curved monitor which has lots of real
estate. I'm thinking real hard about the LG 43" monitor because of the
dual inputs.

Rich - N5ZC

On 11/7/2019 2:47 PM, Tox wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it.
>
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).
>
> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
> AD6YT

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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>

Paul
W6PNG

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it.
>
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).
>
> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
> --
> Scott Small
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VE3NR

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))

Bert VE3NR

On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:

> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>
> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>
> Paul
> W6PNG
>
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>> slowly terraforming it.
>>
>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>
>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>> consider things like OLED).
>>
>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott
>> AD6YT
>> --
>> Scott Small
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display lives :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>
> Bert VE3NR
>
>
> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>>
>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>>
>> Paul
>> W6PNG
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>>
>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>>
>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>> consider things like OLED).
>>>
>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> AD6YT
>>> --
>>> Scott Small
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

As I replied to Paul:
I'm not going to run out and buy one of those.... but in it's defense... it IS designed for high level video use, as in network edit rooms, or graphics design rooms. It has many display refresh rates, so it can marry into various TV uses in many countries. It's meant to be a professional product. There are studios that spent that much on just a microphone, let alone a broadcast TV camera and its lens, which costs more than a car.
I solve the whole issue by simply not having a shack. All my operating is a la portable. So, I don't need any monitors.
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211

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For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display lives :-)

Grant NQ5T

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Jim Brown-10

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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On 11/7/2019 12:47 PM, Tox wrote:
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays

In my earlier post, I forgot to mention that some displays are noisy and
some are quiet. Years ago, someone gave me a Samsung with touch on-off
control that was both very noisy and also turned flips when it sees a
lot of RF. Which is why he gave it to me. :)

Most noise from displays is radiated by the video cable and the power
cable, and that component of noise can be suppressed by winding turns
through a #31 Fair-Rite core.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories

My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!

jim ab3cv

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
> burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or
> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for
> this display lives :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >
> > Bert VE3NR
> >
> >
> > On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
> >> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the
> K4.
> >>
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> W6PNG
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> >>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> >>> slowly terraforming it.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> >>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> >>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> >>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> >>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >>>
> >>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> >>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> >>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> >>> consider things like OLED).
> >>>
> >>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the
> party.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>> AD6YT
> >>> --
> >>> Scott Small
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Clay Autery-2

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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One word.... ASUS.

Asus has a huge line of monitors... many with external power supplies giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...

>
> On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott AD6YT -- Scott Small ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/m
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VE3NR

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

Agree - I use several ASUS monitors and they are all quiet!

Bert VE3NR

On 11/7/2019 5:59 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

>
>
> One word.... ASUS.
>
>
>
> Asus has a huge line of monitors... many with external power supplies giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott AD6YT -- Scott Small ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net

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Richard Eversole

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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You may want to try cheap 4k tv... Some under $200... Several under $280...
Some use dc connector. I was going to try a couple and see... If they are
ng then return... For nongamers these should be fine... Under $200 means no
roku or other bells and whistles.... Seen nonham reviews that indicate
picture ok...

Tv's seem to be rca and Chinese off labels
For monitors LG and Samsung seem ok

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, 15:01 Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> One word.... ASUS.
>
>
>
> Asus has a huge line of monitors... many with external power supplies
> giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In
> the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to
> hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
> Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
> will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for
> quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not
> averse to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not
> have enough left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points
> for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott
> AD6YT -- Scott Small
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Rick Bates, NK7I

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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It would be nice if you want to stream video while in the shack; I'm
considering one also (but HDTV is much cheaper). But one feature I
would need is decent PIP (picture in picture) to watch two things at
once (computer/radio and video source).

Two major things to consider are look angle and proximity. If you have
to look up more than a few degrees, your neck will whine, straight ahead
is ideal. If it's too large and close, it will be more difficult to
take it all in or you move your head... consider your ergonomics
carefully, body parts resist movement, more each and every year. It
WILL matter, in time (or now).

73,
Rick NK7i

On 11/7/2019 2:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display lives :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>>
>> Bert VE3NR
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>>>
>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> W6PNG
>>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>>>
>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>>> consider things like OLED).
>>>>
>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

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Dude! That's awesome.... One of those would fit between the uprights
on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare... Most efficient use of
space possible in my setup... dual inputs....KVM...

IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(

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On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:

> Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
>
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
>
> My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
>
> jim ab3cv
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
>> burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or
>> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for
>> this display lives :-)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>>>
>>> Bert VE3NR
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the
>> K4.
>>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>>>> Paul
>>>> W6PNG
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>>>> consider things like OLED).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the
>> party.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> AD6YT
>>>>> --
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

My antennas are 100ft from the shack. I don't pick up any noise from it.

Jim ab3cv

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dude! That's awesome.... One of those would fit between the uprights
> on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare... Most efficient use of
> space possible in my setup... dual inputs....KVM...
>
> IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:
> > Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
> >
> >
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
> >
> > My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
> >
> > jim ab3cv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
> >> burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or
> >> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market
> for
> >> this display lives :-)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >>>
> >>> Bert VE3NR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
> >>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than
> the
> >> K4.
> >>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>> W6PNG
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> >>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> >>>>> slowly terraforming it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> >>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing
> angle
> >>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> >>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> >>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays
> in
> >>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> >>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> >>>>> consider things like OLED).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the
> >> party.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>> AD6YT
> >>>>> --
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

NEVER buying another monitor with an internal power supply if at all
humanly possible...
There's more to it than where your antennas are... :-)

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On 07-Nov-19 18:03, Jim Miller wrote:

> My antennas are 100ft from the shack. I don't pick up any noise from it.
>
> Jim ab3cv
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Clay Autery <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Dude! That's awesome.... One of those would fit between the uprights
> on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare... Most efficient use of
> space possible in my setup... dual inputs....KVM...
>
> IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:
> > Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
> >
> >
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
> >
> > My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
> >
> > jim ab3cv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman
> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >
> >> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have
> money
> >> burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video
> editing or
> >> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where
> the market for
> >> this display lives :-)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >>>
> >>> Bert VE3NR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
> >>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost
> more than the
> >> K4.
> >>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>> W6PNG
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> >>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack,
> and am
> >>>>> slowly terraforming it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the
> wall
> >>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
> Viewing angle
> >>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
> will be
> >>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> >>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k
> displays in
> >>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like
> one of the
> >>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> >>>>> consider things like OLED).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis
> to the
> >> party.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>> AD6YT
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Scott Small
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Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

I have a newer Dell 1440p monitor that shuts off every time I transmit. It has an external PS. However, my antenna is in the attic and radio on the second floor ungrounded (rental home). Ferrite hasn’t helped so far.

https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/computer-monitor-turns-off-on-transmit.674842/

James
W0CD

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NEVER buying another monitor with an internal power supply if at all
humanly possible...
There's more to it than where your antennas are... :-)

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On 07-Nov-19 18:03, Jim Miller wrote:

W2xj

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

In reply to this post by Rick Bates, NK7I

samsung has a good 32 inch 4K monitor with PIP but I don’t know about the RFI aspect.

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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It would be nice if you want to stream video while in the shack; I'm considering one also (but HDTV is much cheaper). But one feature I would need is decent PIP (picture in picture) to watch two things at once (computer/radio and video source).
>
> Two major things to consider are look angle and proximity. If you have to look up more than a few degrees, your neck will whine, straight ahead is ideal. If it's too large and close, it will be more difficult to take it all in or you move your head... consider your ergonomics carefully, body parts resist movement, more each and every year. It WILL matter, in time (or now).
>
> 73,
> Rick NK7i
>
>
>> On 11/7/2019 2:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning holes in your pocket). If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display lives :-)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>>>
>>> Bert VE3NR
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>> W6PNG
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>>>> consider things like OLED).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switche

Brian D

Re: 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

In reply to this post by VE3NR

I get many fairly narrow sprogs from my 50" Asus 4k monitor, mainly 20m and
above. The antennas are quite close to the shack, the sprogs seem to be
radiated from the front of the screen.

Bert <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Agree - I use several ASUS monitors and they are all quiet!
>
> Bert VE3NR
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2019 5:59 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
> >
> >
> > One word.... ASUS.
> >
> >
> >
> > Asus has a huge line of monitors... many with external power supplies
> > giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> > > On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While.

In the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to
hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for
quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse
to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough
left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points for quiet 4k
HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott AD6YT -- Scott
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