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Peter Chamalian W1RM

60 meters and the K3S

Some time back there was some great information on setting up the K3(s) to
operate on 60 meters. It involved saving the frequencies in memories and
recalling them. I had my K3 set up that way but with the K3S changeover,
that's gone and I can't seem to find that information on the web (perhaps
I'm not searching on the right terms).

Does anyone remember that and can point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Pete, W1RM

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Don Wilhelm

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

Pete,

Check page 42 of the K3S manual. What you are likely seeking is
"Channel Hopping". BTW, the same thing works for other than 60 meters
if you have a need - like checking the bands for DX Beacons.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/29/2017 4:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Some time back there was some great information on setting up the K3(s) to
> operate on 60 meters. It involved saving the frequencies in memories and
> recalling them. I had my K3 set up that way but with the K3S changeover,
> that's gone and I can't seem to find that information on the web (perhaps
> I'm not searching on the right terms).

> Does anyone remember that and can point me in the right direction?
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Nr4c

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

In reply to this post by Peter Chamalian W1RM

You might try the manual section on using memories. A 60 meter frequency works like any other.

Also note that a "*" in the right place allows that group of memories to be selected with VFO knob.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:20 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Some time back there was some great information on setting up the K3(s) to
> operate on 60 meters. It involved saving the frequencies in memories and
> recalling them. I had my K3 set up that way but with the K3S changeover,
> that's gone and I can't seem to find that information on the web (perhaps
> I'm not searching on the right terms).
>
>
>
> Does anyone remember that and can point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
> [hidden email]
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k6dgw

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

In reply to this post by Peter Chamalian W1RM

I used the K3 Memory Editor and set up the 5 "channels" for both CW and
SSB. Worked really slick and I could give them meaningful names that
appear in VFO B. It's on the Elecraft site, "K3/K3s, KX3, and K2
Control Software." The memories contain both VFO A and B data, so you
can set up one for SSB and one for CW or maybe PSK31. You can even do
split, CTCSS tones, etc. There are a half-million [or so] memories so
you're not likely to run out.

Note: Part 97 uses the term "RTTY" for an authorized emission on 60
meters, but the emission designator sure looks like PSK31, not 170 Hz FSK.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/29/2017 1:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

In reply to this post by Peter Chamalian W1RM

I use memories 61, 62, 63, 64 & 65 for 60 meter frequencies and mode.
You can choose memories of your choice. By doing this then pressing V-M
one can "tune" through the memories. Finding one you wish to use,then
press V-M again and the radio goes there.

Those frequencies are are as follows and all are USB mode. Maximum power
is 100 watts.

5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, 5403.5

73

Bob, K4TAX

K3S s/n 10163

On 9/29/2017 3:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Some time back there was some great information on setting up the K3(s) to
> operate on 60 meters. It involved saving the frequencies in memories and
> recalling them. I had my K3 set up that way but with the K3S changeover,
> that's gone and I can't seem to find that information on the web (perhaps
> I'm not searching on the right terms).
>
>
>
> Does anyone remember that and can point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
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Nr4c

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

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Split on 60 meters takes two channels and is a waste of BW.

Remember there is no "up 1k" on 60 meters. TX is only authorized on the channels.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:50 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I used the K3 Memory Editor and set up the 5 "channels" for both CW and SSB. Worked really slick and I could give them meaningful names that appear in VFO B. It's on the Elecraft site, "K3/K3s, KX3, and K2 Control Software." The memories contain both VFO A and B data, so you can set up one for SSB and one for CW or maybe PSK31. You can even do split, CTCSS tones, etc. There are a half-million [or so] memories so you're not likely to run out.
>
> Note: Part 97 uses the term "RTTY" for an authorized emission on 60 meters, but the emission designator sure looks like PSK31, not 170 Hz FSK.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
>> On 9/29/2017 1:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Some time back there was some great information on setting up the K3(s) to
>> operate on 60 meters. It involved saving the frequencies in memories and
>> recalling them. I had my K3 set up that way but with the K3S changeover,
>> that's gone and I can't seem to find that information on the web (perhaps
>> I'm not searching on the right terms).
>>
>>
>> Does anyone remember that and can point me in the right direction?
>>
>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

Comments on the R & O - Effective 0000 EST on March 5, 2012.

Amateurs are permitted to operate on five specific frequency channels,
each having an effective bandwidth of 2.8 kHz.

*Table 1:*
Channel 1: 5330.5 kHz
Channel 2: 5346.5 kHz
Channel 3: 5357.0 kHz
Channel 4: 5371.5 kHz
Channel 5: 5403.5 kHz

These frequencies are available for use by stations having a control
operator holding a General, Advanced or Amateur Extra class license. It
is important to note that the frequencies shown above _are suppressed
carrier frequencies_ – the frequencies that appear in your transceiver’s
tuning display when your transceiver is in the USB mode.

Amateurs may transmit with an effective radiated power of 100 W or less,
relative to a half-wave dipole. If you’re using a commercial directional
antenna, FCC Rules require you to keep a copy of the manufacturer’s gain
specifications in your station records. If you built the directional
antenna yourself, you must calculate the gain and keep the results in
your station records.

When using a directional antenna, you must take your antenna gain into
account when setting your RF output power. For example, if your antenna
offers 3 dB gain, your maximum legal output power on 60 meters should be
no more than 50 W (50 W plus 3 dB gain equals 100 W Effective Radiated
Power).

*Upper Sideband Operation*
Upper Sideband operation on 60 meters is simple. Just tune your
transceiver to one of the channel frequencies shown in Table 1 and
operate, being careful you do not over modulate and create “splatter”
that would fall outside the 2.8 kHz channel bandwidths. If your
transceiver allows you to adjust your maximum SSB transmit bandwidth,
setting it to 2.4 kHz should keep you well within the legal limit.

*CW Operation*
CW operation must take place at the _center of your chosen channel_.
This means that your transmitting frequency must be 1.5 kHz above the
suppressed carrier frequency as specified in the Report and Order (see
Table 1). Operating at strict channel-center frequencies may come as a
disappointment to many, but cooperating with the NTIA is key to expanded
privileges in the future.
The channel center frequencies are:

Channel 1: 5332.0 kHz
Channel 2: 5348.0 kHz
Channel 3: 5358.5 kHz
Channel 4: 5373.0 kHz
Channel 5: 5405.0 kHz

Consult your transceiver manual. Some transceivers transmit CW at the
exact frequencies shown on their displays, but others offset the actual
transmission frequency by a certain amount (for example, 600 Hz). If
your manual is not clear on this point, contact the manufacturer. If you
have access to a frequency counter, this is an excellent tool for
ensuring that your CW signal is on the channel center frequency.

*Digital Operation*
Our expanded privileges on 60 meters were the result of collaboration
between the FCC and the NTIA – the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration, the agency that manages and coordinates
telecommunications activities among US government departments, the
primary users of the band. The NTIA expressed concern about possible
interference and requested that amateurs limit digital operating to
PSK31 and PACTOR III only.

It is certainly possible to interpret the FCC Report and Order somewhat
broadly as it concerns digital operating on the band, but be careful not
to read too much into the text.Therefore, as a practical matter it
appears that any J2D data emission is to be permitted up to a bandwidth
of 2.8 kHz, provided that care is exercised to limit the length of
transmissions

With an eye to the potential for expanded 60 meter privileges in the
future, the ARRL believes it is critical to cooperate fully with the
NTIA. Therefore, the ARRL asks all amateurs to *_restrict 60-meter
digital operations to PSK31 or PACTOR III._**_
_*
With PSK31 you must operate on the following channel center frequencies:
Channel 1: 5332.0 kHz
Channel 2: 5348.0 kHz
Channel 3: 5358.5 kHz
Channel 4: 5373.0 kHz
Channel 5: 5405.0 kHz

The easiest way to achieve this is to place your transceiver in the USB
mode and tune to one of the suppressed carrier channel frequencies shown
in Table 1.

With your PSK31 software display configured to indicate audio
frequencies, click your mouse cursor at the 1500 Hz mark (see below).
With your radio in the USB mode, this marker indicates the center of the
channel and it is the frequency on which you should be transmitting.

PACTOR III operation on 60 meters is straightforward. With your
transceiver in the USB mode, tune to one of the suppressed carrier
channel frequencies shown in Table 1. Note that only live
keyboard-to-keyboard operation of PACTOR III is allowed. Unattended
automatic operation is not permitted.

73
Bob, K4TAX

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k6dgw

Re: 60 meters and the K3S

In reply to this post by Nr4c

Bill, while the original post was about the 60 m channels, the K3 Memory
Editor works for all frequencies for all bands. As you note, split
operation makes essentially no sense on the 5 60 m channels in the US.
It does make sense elsewhere.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/29/2017 5:29 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> Split on 60 meters takes two channels and is a waste of BW.
>
> Remember there is no "up 1k" on 60 meters. TX is only authorized on the channels.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>

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