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2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Re: 630M

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Congratulations, Ken! How much power?

Wayne
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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Re: 630M

Wayne TU - Roger and I were both running 5 watts erpI'm not running a pre-amp , not sure if the pre-amp in the K3 works that low.The antenna is 60 ft vertical with top and bottom loading only 32 radials.
Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM

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Congratulations, Ken! How much power?

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Last nite WSPR on 630 meters, 160 meter InvL with variometer
loading/matching coils, 120 400ft radials.
K3 updated synth/BPF driving WB5NJD amp 100 watts in shack 1 W erp
from antenna. Its all dx when
you are 2500 mi from the closest land.
Merv K9FD/KH6 WH2XCR

WH2XCR
Hearing: VE7VV, VK1DSH, VK4YB, VK5ABN, VK5FQ, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WH2XXP,
WI2XBQ, ZF1EJ, ZL2AFP
Heard by: 7L1RLL4, CF7MM, EJTSWL, JA1PKG, JA1PKG, JA3TVF, JE1JDL,
JH3XCU, K6SRO, KJ6MKI, KO6KL, KR6LA, KU7Z, N1VF, N6SKM, VE6JY, VE6XH,
VE7AB, VE7BDQ, VE7SL, VK1DSH, VK2XGJ, VK3ALZ, VK3GJZ, VK3NFI, VK3WRE,
VK4YB, VK5AKK, VK7TW, W0YSE, W6SFH, W7IUV, WB6RQN, WD2XSH/26, WE2XPQ,
WG2XSV, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WI2XBQ, WW6D, ZL4EI

> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Merv,

Is there a 630 meter interest group that you post such information to, as well?

> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Merv Schweigert via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Last nite WSPR on 630 meters, 160 meter InvL with variometer loading/matching coils, 120 400ft radials.
> K3 updated synth/BPF driving WB5NJD amp 100 watts in shack 1 W erp from antenna. Its all dx when
> you are 2500 mi from the closest land.
> Merv K9FD/KH6 WH2XCR
>
> WH2XCR
> Hearing: VE7VV, VK1DSH, VK4YB, VK5ABN, VK5FQ, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WH2XXP, WI2XBQ, ZF1EJ, ZL2AFP
> Heard by: 7L1RLL4, CF7MM, EJTSWL, JA1PKG, JA1PKG, JA3TVF, JE1JDL, JH3XCU, K6SRO, KJ6MKI, KO6KL, KR6LA, KU7Z, N1VF, N6SKM, VE6JY, VE6XH, VE7AB, VE7BDQ, VE7SL, VK1DSH, VK2XGJ, VK3ALZ, VK3GJZ, VK3NFI, VK3WRE, VK4YB, VK5AKK, VK7TW, W0YSE, W6SFH, W7IUV, WB6RQN, WD2XSH/26, WE2XPQ, WG2XSV, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WI2XBQ, WW6D, ZL4EI
>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Yes, there is the WSPR map site, where all activity for WSPR is listed.

http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/map

And also a great daily report and blog by John WB5NJD

http://njdtechnologies.net/category/630-meter-daily-reports/

You can see there are 80 to 90 people active almost daily, many VK, ZL, JA
Many EU stations as well. Its about the time of the year for EU to start
being copied on the east coast, EU made it all the way to AZ last season.
And with lower sunspot numbers propagation should improve over the
next few years.

Lots of info on antennas, and 630m subjects on the NJD website, also has
some 136KHZ info there as well.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6 WH2XCR

> Merv,
>
> Is there a 630 meter interest group that you post such information to, as well?
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Merv Schweigert via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Last nite WSPR on 630 meters, 160 meter InvL with variometer loading/matching coils, 120 400ft radials.
>> K3 updated synth/BPF driving WB5NJD amp 100 watts in shack 1 W erp from antenna. Its all dx when
>> you are 2500 mi from the closest land.
>> Merv K9FD/KH6 WH2XCR
>>
>> WH2XCR
>> Hearing: VE7VV, VK1DSH, VK4YB, VK5ABN, VK5FQ, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WH2XXP, WI2XBQ, ZF1EJ, ZL2AFP
>> Heard by: 7L1RLL4, CF7MM, EJTSWL, JA1PKG, JA1PKG, JA3TVF, JE1JDL, JH3XCU, K6SRO, KJ6MKI, KO6KL, KR6LA, KU7Z, N1VF, N6SKM, VE6JY, VE6XH, VE7AB, VE7BDQ, VE7SL, VK1DSH, VK2XGJ, VK3ALZ, VK3GJZ, VK3NFI, VK3WRE, VK4YB, VK5AKK, VK7TW, W0YSE, W6SFH, W7IUV, WB6RQN, WD2XSH/26, WE2XPQ, WG2XSV, WG2XXM, WH2XGP, WI2XBQ, WW6D, ZL4EI
>>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Roger D Johnson

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How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my computer
talks to your computer!

73, Roger

On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Clay Autery-2

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Be thou not a crotchety OM! <wink and a grin>

There are still a bunch of folks working hard to learn code even though
it's not required.... 1+ year wait to get into the CW Academy!

73,

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On 9/22/2017 8:44 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:

> How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my
> computer
> talks to your computer!
>
> 73, Roger
>
>
> On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via
>>> Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3
>>> with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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rich hurd WC3T

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And some folks are doing it on our own, without waiting for the Academy.

---
72,
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for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid:
*FN20is*

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Be thou not a crotchety OM! <wink and a grin>
>
> There are still a bunch of folks working hard to learn code even though
> it's not required.... 1+ year wait to get into the CW Academy!
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
>
> On 9/22/2017 8:44 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>
>> How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my
>> computer
>> talks to your computer!
>>
>> 73, Roger
>>
>>
>> On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft<
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3 with
>>>> HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>>>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
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Rick WA6NHC-2

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Roger,

Yes, my computer talks to another. Using software of ham radio design,
through a station that I assembled every piece, every antenna and wire
placement, the entire station. I also talk through it via voice and
CW. I do this life and person and I operate it remotely, via a computer.

The mode doesn't matter. The success is still the result of personal
effort. Or would you also belittle long standing modes like RTTY and
SSTV? I also use IRLP and DMR radios which are mostly computers also,
for voice!

So I would say "On the contrary, ham radio has RISEN to accept modern
devices, modes and uses." There are MANY options, modes and features
available to enjoy, challenge the mind, the ability to build and even
struggle against atmospheric and solar conditions. Including the use of
computers to learn and discuss more about ham radio, which is presumably
why you're reading this list (uh, computer to computer).

If you're satisfied with your choices, you have no place to belittle the
choices of others. The rest of us do the best we can with the skills,
money and brainpower we have.

Next time, please post your call as well. That is proper netiquette.

73,
Rick wa6nhc

On 9/22/2017 6:44 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
> How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my
> computer
> talks to your computer!
>
> 73, Roger

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Edward R Cole

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Roger,

I'm guessing you are commenting on the DX contact between VK4YM and
WG2XXM using WSPR?
Most likely signal levels were way below noise for CW.

WSPR was designed to test propagation like a beacon and really isn't
well suited to making contacts but it does get thru with a minimum of signal.

But CW has been mainstay on 630m and likely will remain so. It is
simple and effective requiring no computer skills. During the period
the ARRL Experimental Group tested operating on 600m and later on
630m, QRSS was used for making longer weak-signal
contacts. "Reading" the super-slow CW was aided by computer display.

Other digital modes have been investigated and generally work better
with weak-signals beyond the 250-300 mile limit of ground-wave. I
suspect conversational psk-31 will get used quite a bit, where new
digital modes like FT8 will be used to make simple DX contacts with
minimal exchange of callsign and signal reports.

But CW is not dead on 630m. Just more choices which may be more
effective. By and large many operators in the Experimental Group
were prior ship CW operators.

73, Ed - KL7UW, ex WD2XSH/45

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:44:21 -0400
From: Roger D Johnson <[hidden email]>
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How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my computer
talks to your computer!

73, Roger

On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via
Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3
with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: 630M

Ed , Thanks for your comments abt 630M wspr 2-way VK4YB and WG2XXM/K5DNL.
73 Ken K5DNL

On Friday, September 22, 2017 1:30 PM, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:

Roger,

I'm guessing you are commenting on the DX contact between VK4YM and
WG2XXM using WSPR?
Most likely signal levels were way below noise for CW.

WSPR was designed to test propagation like a beacon and really isn't
well suited to making contacts but it does get thru with a minimum of signal.

But CW has been mainstay on 630m and likely will remain so. It is
simple and effective requiring no computer skills. During the period
the ARRL Experimental Group tested operating on 600m and later on
630m, QRSS was used for making longer weak-signal
contacts. "Reading" the super-slow CW was aided by computer display.

Other digital modes have been investigated and generally work better
with weak-signals beyond the 250-300 mile limit of ground-wave. I
suspect conversational psk-31 will get used quite a bit, where new
digital modes like FT8 will be used to make simple DX contacts with
minimal exchange of callsign and signal reports.

But CW is not dead on 630m. Just more choices which may be more
effective. By and large many operators in the Experimental Group
were prior ship CW operators.

73, Ed - KL7UW, ex WD2XSH/45

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:44:21 -0400
From: Roger D Johnson <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 630M
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How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my computer
talks to your computer!

73, Roger

On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via
Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3
with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
>> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [DETECTED AS SPAM] Re: 630M

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Signals have been CW levels, but as you may not realize not being on
the air for ?? years
Ed, part 5 license to ham contacts are not allowed, so it has to be
WSPR reports.
CW will come along the 15th of next month when waiting time is up for
those who applied
to the UTC.
CW is done almost daily between part 5 stations on the mainland, and FT
modes all the time.

I get a kick out of "experts" that talk about 630M like they operate
there, checked and some that
are talking have not been on the band in more than 5 years. they are
just puffing.
The ARRL experimental group only has a couple at most operational, I
see at most two or three
of them. Most of the work has been done by part 5 grants.

How many even know that the ON4KST chat rooms has a dedicated chat room
for 630M ??
Stop in there and see what happening on the band.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6 WH2XCR

> Roger,
>
> I'm guessing you are commenting on the DX contact between VK4YM and
> WG2XXM using WSPR?
> Most likely signal levels were way below noise for CW.
>
> WSPR was designed to test propagation like a beacon and really isn't
> well suited to making contacts but it does get thru with a minimum of
> signal.
>
> But CW has been mainstay on 630m and likely will remain so. It is
> simple and effective requiring no computer skills. During the period
> the ARRL Experimental Group tested operating on 600m and later on
> 630m, QRSS was used for making longer weak-signal contacts. "Reading"
> the super-slow CW was aided by computer display.
>
> Other digital modes have been investigated and generally work better
> with weak-signals beyond the 250-300 mile limit of ground-wave. I
> suspect conversational psk-31 will get used quite a bit, where new
> digital modes like FT8 will be used to make simple DX contacts with
> minimal exchange of callsign and signal reports.
>
> But CW is not dead on 630m. Just more choices which may be more
> effective. By and large many operators in the Experimental Group were
> prior ship CW operators.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW, ex WD2XSH/45
>
>
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:44:21 -0400
> From: Roger D Johnson <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 630M
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> How ham radio has fallen. Incentive licensing, no code, and now, my
> computer
> talks to your computer!
>
> 73, Roger
>
>
> On 9/21/2017 10:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > Congratulations, Ken! How much power?
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Ken Roberson via
> Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> 2-Way 630 meter WSPR decodes from VK4YB and WG2XXM 13441km.Rig K3
> with HB pwr amp and 60 ft vertical.
> >> 73 Ken K5DNL/WG2XXM
>
>
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