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I'm reviewing my soon-to-be-shipped K3 order and want to be
sure I understand the KUSB line item correctly. Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port or is it an internal module for which I will need to supply cable for the K3 to computer conection? Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port...
Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't know the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Or a USB extension :-)
On 7/11/07 07:06, "Lyle Johnson" <[hidden email]> sent: >> Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... > > Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your > computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need a > standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and > your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't know > the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P If you're sending someone some Styrofoam, what do you pack it in? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: A "My K3's coming question"
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Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere?
I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable" but it's pretty hard to buy such things these days now USB has taken over and as I have a pair of the right connectors and a length of multi-core cable it makes most sense for me to make up my own. It's also something to do while I'm waiting... I'd also like to make up audio interface cables. I can't tell what the connectors on the K3 are from the picture, and the manual didn't appear to mention it. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf On Nov 7, 2007 7:06 AM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... > > Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your > computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need a > standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and > your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't know > the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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To answer a few offline questions, here's a UK-sourced cable:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=97735&criteria=rs-232&doy=7m11 Simon Brown, HB9DRV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]> > > Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port or is > it an internal module for which I will need to supply cable for the K3 to > computer conection? > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Nov 7, 2007 11:05 AM, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) <[hidden email]> wrote:
> To answer a few offline questions, here's a UK-sourced cable: > http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=97735&criteria=rs-232&doy=7m11 That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other radios? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Not required based on all the postings and manual - isolating trans. In K3
and adjustable gain etc I believe On 7/11/07 11:30, "Julian G4ILO" <[hidden email]> sent: > On Nov 7, 2007 11:05 AM, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) <[hidden email]> wrote: > but what about the audio connections? Would standard > 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator > needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other > radios? -- Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labour. -Wernher von Braun, rocket engineer (1912-1977) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug
into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, K1EL and nice knobs on the front. If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth considering. Simon Brown, HB9DRV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian G4ILO" <[hidden email]> > > That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial > cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard > 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator > needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other > radios? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The KUSB cable is 6 ft long.
73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ Lyle Johnson wrote: >> Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... > Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your > computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need > a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 > and your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't > know the exact length of the KUSB, _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug
>into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, >K1EL and nice knobs on the front. >If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth >considering. Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html 73 to all Trevor G0KTN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hey, that's great - talk about over-doing it :-)
On 7/11/07 14:11, "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft" <[hidden email]> sent: > The KUSB cable is 6 ft long. > 73, Eric WA6HHQ -- Ok, so what's the speed of Dark? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires power if it
doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port. Does the K3 provide power on the RS232 port? I expect not, in which case, I'll need to provide power from the K3's 1A Acc 12v output - it is 1A is it not? On 7/11/07 14:19, "Trevor Smithers" <[hidden email]> sent: >> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug >> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, >> K1EL and nice knobs on the front. > >> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth >> considering. > > Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it > http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html > > 73 to all > Trevor G0KTN > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- "There is no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit." --Ronald Reagan _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The length is closer to 60 INCHES... !!! Actually, closer to 72" long!
Tom N0SS >Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't know the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere?
> I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable"... For normal use, you just needs pins 2, 3 and 5, plus the shield to the connector shell. If you want to support DTR or RTS signaling (for PTT and/or KEY from a logging program, for example) then you also need pins 4 and 7. The remaining pins (1, 6, 8 and 9) are currently not connected in the K3. They will cause no harm if they are present, and you lose no functionality if they are not. > I'd also like to make up audio interface cables. 6.5mm (1/4") stereo for front panel headphones, 3.5mm (1/8") stereo for rear panel jacks. The rear panel mic is mono, using tip and shell, so a 3.5mm mono plug could be used. I suggest using a 3.5mm stereo connector anyway. The rear apron connectors are so-called RCA or phono, at least here in the USA. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Mine is 6 feet long, 1.8m plus.
73, doug Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:06:37 -0800 From: Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> > Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3. You may need a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and your computer if they aren't very close together. Sorry, I don't know the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the
> serial cable wiring but what about the audio connections? > Would standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Yes, just standard 3.5mm stereo cables. LINE IN and MIC are mono, but of course a stereo cable will work fine there also. > Is any resistive attenuator needed, such as I've used in the > home made cables for most other radios? No. 73, Ed - W0YK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires > power if it doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port. DigiKeyer powers the USB interface from the computer USB port. The microcontroller and the radio interface (RS-232/CAT) is powered separately (usually from the radio). With the K3 you will want to pick up power from the accessory 12V output. When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the 12V input to connect to the accessory output. > >> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to > >> plug into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality > >> soundcard, COM ports, FSK, K1EL and nice knobs on the front. I should let this pass but I can't ... Navigator is essentially a copy of the RigExpert Plus which is available for about 80% of the cost of the Navigator (www.rigexpert.net). > > Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it > > http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html microKEYER II has several advantages (features) not present in either RigExpert Plus or Navigator - particularly VOICE operation and DVK support. microKEYER is the ONLY interface that can do all mode operation (including, according to rumor - not verified - WinDRM) without rewiring or using a separate sound card for some functions. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [hidden email] > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David > Ferrington, M0XDF > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:35 AM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question" > > > Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires > power if it > doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port. > Does the K3 provide power on the RS232 port? I expect not, in > which case, > I'll need to provide power from the K3's 1A Acc 12v output - > it is 1A is it > not? > > > On 7/11/07 14:19, "Trevor Smithers" <[hidden email]> sent: > > >> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug > >> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality > soundcard, COM ports, FSK, > >> K1EL and nice knobs on the front. > > > >> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth > >> considering. > > > > Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it > > http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html > > > > 73 to all > > Trevor G0KTN > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- > "There is no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who > gets the credit." --Ronald Reagan > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available?
Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-) On 7/11/07 15:46, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> sent: > When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the > 12V input to connect to the accessory output. -- God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. -Swedish proverb _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lyle
Is that rear panel mic jack a true tip-ring-sleeve jack or a simple mono jack? If simple mono, I'd be uncomfortable putting a stereo plug into it. Too many folks have had trouble with the K2's headset jack. I'm a bit leery of small jacks in general due to the small leaf springs in them. 73, Bob N6WG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Johnson" <[hidden email]> To: "elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question" > > Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere? > > I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable"... > > For normal use, you just needs pins 2, 3 and 5, plus the shield to the > connector shell. > > If you want to support DTR or RTS signaling (for PTT and/or KEY from a > logging program, for example) then you also need pins 4 and 7. The > remaining pins (1, 6, 8 and 9) are currently not connected in the K3. > They will cause no harm if they are present, and you lose no > functionality if they are not. > > > I'd also like to make up audio interface cables. > > 6.5mm (1/4") stereo for front panel headphones, 3.5mm (1/8") stereo for > rear panel jacks. The rear panel mic is mono, using tip and shell, so a > 3.5mm mono plug could be used. I suggest using a 3.5mm stereo connector > anyway. > > The rear apron connectors are so-called RCA or phono, at least here in > the USA. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: A "My K3's coming question DIGI KEYER cable
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> OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available? > Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-) I'm expecting cables when I return from Thanksgiving holiday. Specifically, OM7ZZ is waiting on one of the VP6D units to prepare cables. He has been through three or four different designs as the I/O information has changed since the initial announcement. Rather than build cables on speculation and have something change, he's decided to make sure they will work when the group gets to VP6D! 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [hidden email] > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:55 AM > To: Joe Subich, W4TV; [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question DIGI KEYER cable > > > OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available? > Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-) > > On 7/11/07 15:46, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> sent: > > When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the > > 12V input to connect to the accessory output. > -- > God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. > -Swedish proverb > > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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