APF Ergonomics
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Why was the XFIL button chosen to enable APF? Is it because you can't have APF and Dual PB at the same time? This weekend I found myself inadvertently changing the XFIL instead of enabling APF. Pileups get quite interesting when switching to a 2.7kHz roofer by mistake.
I would have preferred using the AFX button for enabling APF, since it is an audio effect and the second function doesn't apply to CW. 73, Tom N2CU <>< K3 #3582 -- 73, Tom N2CU <>< K3 #3582 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 12/5/2010 1:54 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I would have preferred using the AFX button for enabling APF, since it is an > audio effect and the second function doesn't apply to CW. > ?? I use my afx in the BIN setting in cw or ssb, "which provides a constant phase shift between the left and right outputs" GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm not talking about the primary button function - AFX is still available. APF would be the "HOLD" function for that button.
Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that could be used on CW. 73, Tom N2CU <>< K3 #3582 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tom,
Because it is most like Dual PB, and it cannot be used if Dual PB is in effect. The menu permits the choice of either Dual PB or APF when in CW mode. Dual PB still works the same as before for digital modes. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/6/2010 7:04 AM, Tom Williams wrote: > Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that could be used on CW. > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Tom Williams-4
Never used the dual PB button until the APF solution came along.
The name of the button fits the APF. No need to change that imho. 73 Arie PA3A Op 6-12-2010 13:04, Tom Williams schreef: > I'm not talking about the primary button function - AFX is still available. APF would be the "HOLD" function for that button. > > Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that could be used on CW. > > > 73, > Tom N2CU<>< > K3 #3582 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
>On 12/6/2010 7:04 AM, Tom Williams wrote: >> Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB >>was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that >>could be used on CW. > >Because it is most like Dual PB, and it cannot be used if Dual PB is in >effect. The menu permits the choice of either Dual PB or APF when in CW >mode. Dual PB still works the same as before for digital modes. > What happened to the suggestion to select APF using the XFIL tap function? I know there wasn't time to implement it in beta 4.22 but would hate to think it has been lost. The CONFIG options to suit the majority of tastes would then be: "Classic K3" = XFIL tap, DUAL PB hold "APF lovers" = APF tap, DUAL PB hold "Beta 4.22" = XFIL tap, APF hold. Anyone who has tried to select APF in a hurry and suddenly found themselves listening in 2.7kHz will know which one they prefer! (Please note: this discussion does not apply to anyone who is never in a hurry and has never made a mistake :-) -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:58:12 +0000, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
> Don Wilhelm wrote: > >>On 12/6/2010 7:04 AM, Tom Williams wrote: >>> Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB >>>was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that >>>could be used on CW. >> >>Because it is most like Dual PB, and it cannot be used if Dual PB is in >>effect. The menu permits the choice of either Dual PB or APF when in CW >>mode. Dual PB still works the same as before for digital modes. >> > > What happened to the suggestion to select APF using the XFIL tap > function? I know there wasn't time to implement it in beta 4.22 but > would hate to think it has been lost. > > The CONFIG options to suit the majority of tastes would then be: > > "Classic K3" = XFIL tap, DUAL PB hold > > "APF lovers" = APF tap, DUAL PB hold > > "Beta 4.22" = XFIL tap, APF hold. > > Anyone who has tried to select APF in a hurry and suddenly found > themselves listening in 2.7kHz will know which one they prefer! > > (Please note: this discussion does not apply to anyone who is > hurry and has never made a mistake :-) I thought that I had found a new way of listening to CW when 2.7kHz bandwidth appeared (many times) during the contest :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hardily agree with the APF lover's option. Maybe that's because I
suggested it first! The XFIL problem is real and can easily be avoided with such an option. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 12/6/2010 13:58, Ian White GM3SEK wrote: > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> On 12/6/2010 7:04 AM, Tom Williams wrote: >>> Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB >>> was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that >>> could be used on CW. >> >> Because it is most like Dual PB, and it cannot be used if Dual PB is in >> effect. The menu permits the choice of either Dual PB or APF when in CW >> mode. Dual PB still works the same as before for digital modes. >> > > What happened to the suggestion to select APF using the XFIL tap > function? I know there wasn't time to implement it in beta 4.22 but > would hate to think it has been lost. > > The CONFIG options to suit the majority of tastes would then be: > > "Classic K3" = XFIL tap, DUAL PB hold > > "APF lovers" = APF tap, DUAL PB hold > > "Beta 4.22" = XFIL tap, APF hold. > > Anyone who has tried to select APF in a hurry and suddenly found > themselves listening in 2.7kHz will know which one they prefer! > > (Please note: this discussion does not apply to anyone who is never in a > hurry and has never made a mistake :-) > > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3300 - Release Date: 12/06/10 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Another suggestion: Learn when to tap and when to hold.....
Jim K4JAF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Alsop" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APF Ergonomics > Hardily agree with the APF lover's option. Maybe that's because I > suggested it first! The XFIL problem is real and can easily be avoided > with such an option. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > On 12/6/2010 13:58, Ian White GM3SEK wrote: >> Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >>> On 12/6/2010 7:04 AM, Tom Williams wrote: >>>> Of all the available buttons, I'd still like to know why XFIL-DUAL PB >>>> was chosen and not some other that had no secondary function that >>>> could be used on CW. >>> >>> Because it is most like Dual PB, and it cannot be used if Dual PB is in >>> effect. The menu permits the choice of either Dual PB or APF when in CW >>> mode. Dual PB still works the same as before for digital modes. >>> >> >> What happened to the suggestion to select APF using the XFIL tap >> function? I know there wasn't time to implement it in beta 4.22 but >> would hate to think it has been lost. >> >> The CONFIG options to suit the majority of tastes would then be: >> >> "Classic K3" = XFIL tap, DUAL PB hold >> >> "APF lovers" = APF tap, DUAL PB hold >> >> "Beta 4.22" = XFIL tap, APF hold. >> >> Anyone who has tried to select APF in a hurry and suddenly found >> themselves listening in 2.7kHz will know which one they prefer! >> >> (Please note: this discussion does not apply to anyone who is never in a >> hurry and has never made a mistake :-) >> >> >> > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3300 - Release Date: 12/06/10 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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