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Re: APP Connector Weak Spot

M0XDF
Hi Ro :-)
For anyone looking at APPs, these sites might help:

Lots of good PP ideas - http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/app.htm
Very good supplier out in the US - http://www.qsradio.com/ - N1GNV is  
really good
Good supplier in UK - http://tinyurl.com/2nzu3j - that's my tinyurl,  
trust it! (CPC are down right now - they are part of Farnell)

I looked around and did quite a bit of research before deciding to  
switch ALL my 12v connections to PP - the only thing left are adapters  
(phone chargers etc) and even they are plugged into cigar lighter  
sockets that connect to PPs. I ran 30A cable direct from the battery  
in the cars to under the dash and have a group of PP's for stuff to  
plug into.
I have 1 -> 3 way adapters etc.
I have a number of L/A batt. and they have PPs connected to the post  
permanently - the float chargers for these NOW have PPs (I leave all  
my L/As on float).
I took the intermittent Molex type Yaesu connector off my FT-859 and  
replaced with PP (one of the best things I did).
I do not yet have a RigRunner yet, but then it's easy to make your own  
panels up.
I'm very pleased that Elecraft have  gone the PP route.

I bought the 'Deluxe Crimp Tool' from QuickSilver (link above) and  
it's actually made by West Mountain Radio - you may think $60 is a  
lot, but believe me, in the UK that would be more like $120 and yes,  
it's as good as it should be and well worth it IF you are going to  
make a lot of connectors up.

Yes you can solder the odd ones or twos (ok Ron, yes you solder them  
all), but I found I was having to be very careful not to let solder  
run up to the contact part. So, I considered I'd be making a couple of  
100 crimps over the next few years (must have made 50 in the last 6  
months) and thought it worth it. I also bought  a whole load of shells  
(not just red/black), 15 & 30 A terminals, roll pins (don't bother)  
and lock clips (maybe in a vibro env.) from QuickSilver, but that just  
took advantage of shipping cost to UK.

BTW, whenever I buy anything from CPC, I add a pack of red/black PPs!  
- I've got about 50 spare pairs right now!!

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
There is no pillow so soft as a clear conscience. -French proverb

On 1 Apr 2008, at 19:23, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Ro, AC7AC
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RE: APP Connector Weak Spot

Charly

I say agn, any connector that needs this much care and causes this much discussion abt

solder or not, glue or not, solder running into the contacts, etc etc, is a sign of a bad

product.  LONG LIVE CINCH JONES, or at least Molex and carve this into the stone:

NEW IS NOT NECESSARILY BETTER.  73
 

Charles Harpole

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> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] APP Connector Weak Spot
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:07:02 -0700
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>
> Hi David:
>
> You wrote:
>
> Yes you can solder the odd ones or twos (ok Ron, yes you solder them  
> all), but I found I was having to be very careful not to let solder  
> run up to the contact part.
>
> --------------------
>
> You fixed that with a good crimp tool. For those who solder the terminals
> the way to avoid getting solder on the contact is to hold the wire with the
> contacts upwards. A small vise or just propping the stripped wires up
> against a book or something works that holds the stripped ends steady
> pointing upwards works FB. Set each connector on the stripped wire with the
> contact UP, adjust the position so they are both aligned to slip into the
> shells easily, then apply heat to the metal terminal and feed solder through
> the holes near the terminal end until it flows around the inside and into
> the wire and connector *away* from the contacts. (I included that hint right
> on the instruction sheet.)
>
> It takes me perhaps 1 minute to attach two terminals to the stripped wires.
> Still, if I were doing a LOT of them I'd probably crimp them (with the
> expensive tool), especially if I were doing most of them "in the field" away
> from the bench.
>
> My point in posting to the thread was that it's not *necessary* to use a
> crimp tool nor does Elecraft recommend one do so over soldering. That's why
> the power cable kit assembly instructions say, "Unless you have a
> high-quality crimping tool and experience using it, we strongly recommend
> you solder the terminals."
>
> Wayne and Eric added a suggested crimp tool to the connector assembly
> instructions for people who did not want to use a soldering iron regardless
> of the expense. Even so, it's important to know how to use the tool
> correctly.
>
> Ron
>
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