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ARRL 160

daleputnam
I just received the 2007 ARRL 160 1st place Single op QRP WY section certificate...
The K2 does its best every day...
And I don't even have the better antenna up.... yet. (again)(dog gone wind anyway)
Thanks to everyone responsible, and to all the good ears that make this possible.
C U in the next test...
Listen for the "other" signals on the bands... not just the KILLER signals...
and the K2 does that very well.. indeed.

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy




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Re: ARRL 160

David F. Reed
Dale,

congratulations!  Very impressive.

73 de Dave, W5SV

Dale Putnam wrote:

> I just received the 2007 ARRL 160 1st place Single op QRP WY section
> certificate...
> The K2 does its best every day...
> And I don't even have the better antenna up.... yet. (again)(dog gone
> wind anyway)
> Thanks to everyone responsible, and to all the good ears that make
> this possible.
> C U in the next test...
> Listen for the "other" signals on the bands... not just the KILLER
> signals...
> and the K2 does that very well.. indeed.
>
> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
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Re: ARRL 160

Julius Fazekas n2wn
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Congrats Dale!

There were, at least, two other K2s in the winner circle ;o)

Gene, KB7Q and I both placed in the Top 10 SOLP... My certificate was waiting for me when I went home.

Look forward to logging you and many other QRPers this year as well.

A couple of suggestions for any new QRP Top Band Contesters:

1) Don't sign /QRP. It slows things down.

2) Don't repeat the 5NN exchange if asked for a repeat, particularly if band conditions are poor.

3) Don't QRS, except as a last resort, a fast exchange is easier to catch if there is a lot of QSB.

4) Do QSY around the guy you're calling if they don't come back to you. By this I mean use your RIT or XIT as you may be out of the passband. This is not unique to QRP, but can be to newbies. I usually run with my filters pretty wide (700 hz or so), but still have folks call well out of that range and they usually have decent signal.

5) Do try again. If someone is running, they will either come back to the loudest signal or the distinct one by pitch. My hearing does better with lower pitched signals. I've watched John, K4BAI, copy signals with ease ata much higher pitch. This goes hand in hand with item 4. If not, check back on your next sweep, when things slow down or on the second night of a contest like ARRL 160 or CQ WW DX.

Running QRP is challenging and fun. It does require a bit more thought and different strategies.

73,
Julius
n2wn

6) Don't underestimate your signal. Seriously, some QRP signals are monstrous (no not just VY2ZM and his 4 Square Array hihi). Know your paths and your openings.
Dale Putnam wrote
I just received the 2007 ARRL 160 1st place Single op QRP WY section certificate...
The K2 does its best every day...
And I don't even have the better antenna up.... yet. (again)(dog gone wind anyway)
Thanks to everyone responsible, and to all the good ears that make this possible.
C U in the next test...
Listen for the "other" signals on the bands... not just the KILLER signals...
and the K2 does that very well.. indeed.--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
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RE: ARRL 160

daleputnam
Very good points, Julius,
  One of the mistakes that I make, and I hear being made is the feeling of not being able to be heard.
That just works against us. Qro has the "advantage" of thinking powerful.. qrp, knows the power is in
the operator and the props. Now.. we also know we can't control the props.. so.. the best we can do is take
advantage of, and use to the best the props as they are. The second most important tool that we all have
is the quality of operator... if you aren't as good as you want to be.. then that is correctable... but we
must not "feel" poor op... feel GOOD op..
  One doesn't have to work through a pile, with out learning a lot.. how did the successful ones do it different?
How did they get through and you didn't? How did you and they didn't.. and one thing to note... as you get better
take a not of how many QRO ops you pass.... it is a real blast to blow through the pileup, leaving stations calling, by being there at the right time, and with the exact set of skills to getter done.
  Oh.. and one last thing.... one may not assume that all signals are reciprical. He is loud, therefore I am loud.. ok... he is weak, therefore I will be weak to him... not true..
he is loud, I am weak... WHAT??????
He is weak, I may be loud, if his beam is looking the other way.... and you say no one has beams on the low bands?
Don't assume that one either... or I will miss you, and so will a number of other ops.

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy



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RE: ARRL 160

Jim Brown-10
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:46:54 -0700, Dale Putnam wrote:

>one may not assume that all signals are reciprical. He is loud,
>therefore I am loud

This is especially true on 160M (and to some extent on 80M) where so
many operators are fairly omni on transmit but may be highly
directional on RX. This happens a lot early in the evening west
coast time -- the East Coast is listening to EU Beverages and loops,
and even though they're S7 to S9 here on the west coast, they can't
hear us calling.

Also remember that many of us have a lot more noise than others. I
often have to run legal power to work a guy in a city who's giving
me S7 with only 100 watts.

73,

Jim K9YC


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RE: ARRL 160

Julius Fazekas n2wn
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Dale,

You make some great points on propagation, worth keeping in mind this weekend...

Just did some propagation plots and 80M looks like it will be the place to be... Good chance to add to your DXCC totals.

Ya say no one has a beam on the low low bands, you know 80 and 160?

I know there are a couple JA stations with 3 elements on 80M, but check out pages 35 and 36 here: http://www.helsinki.fi/~korpela/PU/PU3_2008.pdf

5 (yes, five) full size elements on 80

AND

3 (!) full size elements on 160!!!

many probably have logged OH8X in past contests, but these monsters should open up a whole new bunch of opportunities for folks with less than competitive antennas on 160/80!

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--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Dale Putnam <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Dale Putnam <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ARRL 160
> To: [hidden email], "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:46 PM
> Very good points, Julius,
>   One of the mistakes that I make, and I hear being made is
> the feeling of not being able to be heard.
> That just works against us. Qro has the
> "advantage" of thinking powerful.. qrp, knows the
> power is in
> the operator and the props. Now.. we also know we can't
> control the props.. so.. the best we can do is take
> advantage of, and use to the best the props as they are.
> The second most important tool that we all have
> is the quality of operator... if you aren't as good as
> you want to be.. then that is correctable... but we
> must not "feel" poor op... feel GOOD op..
>   One doesn't have to work through a pile, with out
> learning a lot.. how did the successful ones do it
> different?
> How did they get through and you didn't? How did you
> and they didn't.. and one thing to note... as you get
> better
> take a not of how many QRO ops you pass.... it is a real
> blast to blow through the pileup, leaving stations calling,
> by being there at the right time, and with the exact set of
> skills to getter done.
>   Oh.. and one last thing.... one may not assume that all
> signals are reciprical. He is loud, therefore I am loud..
> ok... he is weak, therefore I will be weak to him... not
> true..
> he is loud, I am weak... WHAT??????
> He is weak, I may be loud, if his beam is looking the other
> way.... and you say no one has beams on the low bands?
> Don't assume that one either... or I will miss you, and
> so will a number of other ops. --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in
> Wy>
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RE: ARRL 160

Adam Koczarski

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:53 AM
> To: [hidden email]; Dale Putnam
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ARRL 160
>
> Dale,
>
> I know there are a couple JA stations with 3 elements on 80M, but check
> out pages 35 and 36 here:
> http://www.helsinki.fi/~korpela/PU/PU3_2008.pdf
>

My buddy VE7SZ in Canada has a nice 80m Yagi. Only 3 elements though. Still
bigger than the lot I live on!  :)

Forth picture from the top here:
http://ka7ark.com/STOC/2006CanSTOC2/CanSTOC_2006.htm


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