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Ken G Kopp

All knobs at max ...

Such offensive behavior is an age-old ploy to maintain a clear frequency,
especially when the operator's call is hidden by the use of a club / seldom
used call, such as on FD.

I'm -NOT- advocating such offensive behavior ... merely stating the obvious.

73

K0PP
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: All knobs at max ...

There is waaaayyyy too much of that on the air today. I'll be glad to
see the day in which Riley Hollingsworth gets the VM program up and
running.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 6/24/2019 1:59 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> Such offensive behavior is an age-old ploy to maintain a clear frequency,
> especially when the operator's call is hidden by the use of a club / seldom
> used call, such as on FD.
>
> I'm -NOT- advocating such offensive behavior ... merely stating the obvious.
>
> 73
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: All knobs at max ...

In reply to this post by Ken G Kopp

ARRL always does its best to keep me from copying the FB Bulletin. I finally
fooled them this year.

I actually removed them from my estate plan after getting to much grief some
years ago from the FD guru at headquarters after I simply asked that the
schedule also list the times in GMT. I'm in AZ. We know that you can't
actually save daylight by tweaking your clock, so we don't. ARRL publishes the
zone times as if everyone reset their clock and they are so parochial to not
even mention DST on the column headings. I've missed FMTs for similar reasons.

Wes N7WS

On 6/24/2019 1:55 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> I was just thinking, they should give 100 points for a positive report from a Volunteer Monitor. Because Field Day clearly needs more ways to get points...
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Phil Kane-2

Re: All knobs at max ...

On 6/24/2019 2:45 PM, Wes wrote:
> I actually removed them from my estate plan after getting to much grief
> some years ago from the FD guru at headquarters after I simply asked
> that the schedule also list the times in GMT. I'm in AZ. We know that
> you can't actually save daylight by tweaking your clock, so we don't.
> ARRL publishes the zone times as if everyone reset their clock and they
> are so parochial to not even mention DST on the column headings. I've
> missed FMTs for similar reasons.
>
Gonna be lots of fun when the three West Coast states go on "full time
summer time" (which the FCC wisely called "Advanced Time" in licensing
schedules for AM stations because no one could find where the Daylight
was being stored....). Then we will have WA, OR, CA, and AZ on GMT-7
year round, the rest of the Mountain Time Zone on GMT-7/GMT-6, and the
Pacific Time Zone will be only a memory because nobody will be on GMT-8
- at least in the USA, that is. I don't know what Canada and Mexico
will do. Don't need a degree in engineering, an accounting degree will
do. I thought that year-round GMT-8 made more sense for the Pacific
Time Zone, but no one asked me. What the heck, they're only numbers on
a clock.....

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: All knobs at max ...

As was explained very carefully to us last fall before the election with that proposal, it would take a change in an international agreement for CA to go on full-time DST, so don’t hold your breath. Now, it that wasn’t true, it definitely wouldn’t be the first time the Sacramento politicians lied to us here. Not even first time in that election.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Jun 26, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Phil Kane <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 6/24/2019 2:45 PM, Wes wrote:
>> I actually removed them from my estate plan after getting to much grief
>> some years ago from the FD guru at headquarters after I simply asked
>> that the schedule also list the times in GMT. I'm in AZ. We know that
>> you can't actually save daylight by tweaking your clock, so we don't.
>> ARRL publishes the zone times as if everyone reset their clock and they
>> are so parochial to not even mention DST on the column headings. I've
>> missed FMTs for similar reasons.
>>
> Gonna be lots of fun when the three West Coast states go on "full time
> summer time" (which the FCC wisely called "Advanced Time" in licensing
> schedules for AM stations because no one could find where the Daylight
> was being stored....). Then we will have WA, OR, CA, and AZ on GMT-7
> year round, the rest of the Mountain Time Zone on GMT-7/GMT-6, and the
> Pacific Time Zone will be only a memory because nobody will be on GMT-8
> - at least in the USA, that is. I don't know what Canada and Mexico
> will do. Don't need a degree in engineering, an accounting degree will
> do. I thought that year-round GMT-8 made more sense for the Pacific
> Time Zone, but no one asked me. What the heck, they're only numbers on
> a clock.....
>
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Phil Kane-2

Re: All knobs at max ...

On 6/26/2019 7:58 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:

> As was explained very carefully to us last fall before the election
> with that proposal, it would take a change in an international
> agreement for CA to go on full-time DST, so don’t hold your breath.

Although the time zone geographic definitions are set by international
treaty, a shift to year-round "Advanced Time" without altering the
boundaries of the Time Zone only takes a resolution of Congress to
permit the deviation from the Uniform Time Act of 1946. Had the states
decided to forego the time shift and remain on "Non-Advanced Time"
year-round - such as Arizona and Hawaii do - it does not require
anything more than a state ordinance.

"My time is your time....."
(Leroy Anderson's "Syncopated Clock" playing in the background...)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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Logan Zintsmaster

Re: All knobs at max ...

Amateur astronomers refer to Advanced Time as Darkness Wasting Time.

Logan, KE7AZ

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> On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Phil Kane <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 6/26/2019 7:58 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
>>
>> As was explained very carefully to us last fall before the election
>> with that proposal, it would take a change in an international
>> agreement for CA to go on full-time DST, so don’t hold your breath.
>
> Although the time zone geographic definitions are set by international
> treaty, a shift to year-round "Advanced Time" without altering the
> boundaries of the Time Zone only takes a resolution of Congress to
> permit the deviation from the Uniform Time Act of 1946. Had the states
> decided to forego the time shift and remain on "Non-Advanced Time"
> year-round - such as Arizona and Hawaii do - it does not require
> anything more than a state ordinance.
>
> "My time is your time....."
> (Leroy Anderson's "Syncopated Clock" playing in the background...)
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: All knobs at max ...

Indian Chief said; "White man stupid. Thinks he can cut 12" off of
one end of his blanket, sew it on the other end, and have a longer blanket".

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 6/27/2019 3:26 PM, Logan R Zintsmaster wrote:

> Amateur astronomers refer to Advanced Time as Darkness Wasting Time.
>
> Logan, KE7AZ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Phil Kane <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/26/2019 7:58 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
>>>
>>> As was explained very carefully to us last fall before the election
>>> with that proposal, it would take a change in an international
>>> agreement for CA to go on full-time DST, so don’t hold your breath.
>> Although the time zone geographic definitions are set by international
>> treaty, a shift to year-round "Advanced Time" without altering the
>> boundaries of the Time Zone only takes a resolution of Congress to
>> permit the deviation from the Uniform Time Act of 1946. Had the states
>> decided to forego the time shift and remain on "Non-Advanced Time"
>> year-round - such as Arizona and Hawaii do - it does not require
>> anything more than a state ordinance.
>>
>> "My time is your time....."
>> (Leroy Anderson's "Syncopated Clock" playing in the background...)
>>
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>>
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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pa0pje

Re: All knobs at max ...

Radio amateurs have agreed to use one time only: It was called GMT and
now UTC and uses a 24 hour format... Let's stick to that folks, wherever
you live!

73,
Peter, PA0PJE

Op 27-06-19 om 22:36 schreef Bob McGraw K4TAX:

> Indian Chief said; "White man stupid. Thinks he can cut 12" off of
> one end of his blanket, sew it on the other end, and have a longer blanket".
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 6/27/2019 3:26 PM, Logan R Zintsmaster wrote:
>> Amateur astronomers refer to Advanced Time as Darkness Wasting Time.
>>
>> Logan, KE7AZ