I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list.
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I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA.
Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > Ray > W8LYJ > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Just the few? Potential lack of antennas effects all in the USA - other
nations may well follow. I cannot imagine how antenna issues would not be of interest on this reflector. If you do not feel concerned - hit the delete. Now back to my cave before I offend someone's tender feelings. -- Many of life's problems can be solved by simply deciding what we can do without. - John Dolan ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I am sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. From the ARRL website, "The
measure will, for the first time, guarantee all radio amateurs living in deed-restricted communities governed by a homeowner's association (HOA) or subject to any private land use regulations, the right to erect and maintain effective outdoor antennas at their homes". How is that not relevant to any discussion related to Ham Radio. For those that it will help, it may mean the difference between being active or inactive in the hobby. What good would our Elecraft rigs be (I have two of them) without effective antennas? I am lucky to live in an area where I can put up anything I want in my yard but some Hams live in areas that are so restricted that they can't even put an antenna up. They have to drape a wire off the balcony at night or string something around inside their shack. I have only one question. If you lived in a restricted area and could not put up an antenna, would you then think that discussion of this topic was appropriate in any Ham Radio venue? I support the bill, have emailed my representatives and think that all Hams should do the same. The more it is mentioned and discussed, the greater the chance it will become law. Some of our fellow Hams need this. Thank you, If you wish to chastise me, please do it off list. 73 Dave, KD9VT On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Andy McMullin <[hidden email]> wrote: > I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at > all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA. > > Regards > Andy, G8TQH > > > > On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > > Ray > > W8LYJ > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I am sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. From the ARRL website, "The
measure will, for the first time, guarantee all radio amateurs living in deed-restricted communities governed by a homeowner's association (HOA) or subject to any private land use regulations, the right to erect and maintain effective outdoor antennas at their homes". How is that not relevant to any discussion related to Ham Radio. For those that it will help, it may mean the difference between being active or inactive in the hobby. What good would our Elecraft rigs be (I have two of them) without effective antennas? I am lucky to live in an area where I can put up anything I want in my yard but some Hams live in areas that are so restricted that they can't even put an antenna up. They have to drape a wire off the balcony at night or string something around inside their shack. I have only one question. If you lived in a restricted area and could not put up an antenna, would you then think that discussion of this topic was appropriate in any Ham Radio venue? I support the bill, have emailed my representatives and think that all Hams should do the same. The more it is mentioned and discussed, the greater the chance it will become law. Some of our fellow Hams need this. Thank you, If you wish to chastise me, please do it off list. 73 Dave, KD9VT On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Andy McMullin <[hidden email]> wrote: > I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at > all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA. > > Regards > Andy, G8TQH > > > > On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > > Ray > > W8LYJ > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I am sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. From the ARRL website, "The
measure will, for the first time, guarantee all radio amateurs living in deed-restricted communities governed by a homeowner's association (HOA) or subject to any private land use regulations, the right to erect and maintain effective outdoor antennas at their homes". How is that not relevant to any discussion related to Ham Radio. For those that it will help, it may mean the difference between being active or inactive in the hobby. What good would our Elecraft rigs be (I have two of them) without effective antennas? I am lucky to live in an area where I can put up anything I want in my yard but some Hams live in areas that are so restricted that they can't even put an antenna up. They have to drape a wire off the balcony at night or string something around inside their shack. I have only one question. If you lived in a restricted area and could not put up an antenna, would you then think that discussion of this topic was appropriate in any Ham Radio venue? I support the bill, have emailed my representatives and think that all Hams should do the same. The more it is mentioned and discussed, the greater the chance it will become law. Some of our fellow Hams need this. Thank you, If you wish to chastise me, please do it off list. 73 Dave, KD9VT On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Andy McMullin <[hidden email]> wrote: > I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at > all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA. > > Regards > Andy, G8TQH > > > > On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > > Ray > > W8LYJ > > > > Sent from my iPad > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Like most bills that go through Congress, it's not perfect.
My take, having lived in a HOA / Condo in S. FL, anything is better than nothing. And nothing is what we've had in the past. Today, I'm free, 2.5 acres, no antenna restrictions........except budget and my wife. Those, legislation can't fix. :-) 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10163 On 8/10/2017 8:32 AM, Dave Belville wrote: > I am sorry guys, I have to disagree with you. From the ARRL website, "The > measure will, for the first time, guarantee all radio amateurs living in > deed-restricted communities governed by a homeowner's association (HOA) or > subject to any private land use regulations, the right to erect and > maintain effective outdoor antennas at their homes". > > How is that not relevant to any discussion related to Ham Radio. For those > that it will help, it may mean the difference between being active or > inactive in the hobby. What good would our Elecraft rigs be (I have two of > them) without effective antennas? I am lucky to live in an area where I can > put up anything I want in my yard but some Hams live in areas that are so > restricted that they can't even put an antenna up. They have to drape a > wire off the balcony at night or string something around inside their > shack. I have only one question. If you lived in a restricted area and > could not put up an antenna, would you then think that discussion of this > topic was appropriate in any Ham Radio venue? > > I support the bill, have emailed my representatives and think that all Hams > should do the same. The more it is mentioned and discussed, the greater the > chance it will become law. Some of our fellow Hams need this. > > Thank you, > > If you wish to chastise me, please do it off list. > > 73 > > Dave, KD9VT > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Andy McMullin <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I agree completely. It’s of limited link to Elecraft and no interest at >> all to most of the world, just to the few that live in parts of the USA. >> >> Regards >> Andy, G8TQH >> >> >>> On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:33, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. >>> Ray >>> W8LYJ >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I must agree!
73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/10/2017 05:33 AM, Gmail wrote: > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > Ray > W8LYJ > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In the interest of keeping list volume reasonable, it is lit policy that general amateur radio policy and political discussions are not appropriate for the reflector. There are a multitude of more appropriate places where these can take place. Please take this topic off list immediately. 73, Eric Elecraft Modertor etc. elecraft.com _..._ > On Aug 10, 2017, at 5:33 AM, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I don't think a discussion of this bill is appropriate for this list. > Ray > W8LYJ > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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