Another source for "Anderson PowerPole" type connectors

[Jim Sheldon]

 A friend of mine found them in the April 2008 Mouser catalog.  The
"Anderson" type connectors are shown on pages 1284 -1285...   They now have
a posted type contact so you can attach the connector to a circuit board.

You can also go to www.mouser.com and go to mouser stock number 571-14459571
to open the first entry for the AMP Power Series...

Price wise, I'm not sure how they will compare to PowerWerx on shipping, but
Mouser does not have a minimum order to my knowledge and they have never
charged me anything more than actual shipping.  I looked, but I did not find
the crimper in Mouser's catalog.  It's probably there, but knowing AMP, it
is probably a lot more expensive than the real good one offered by
PowerWerx.  I have that one and it's definitely worth the money if you use a
lot of the connectors.

Jim - W0EB

 

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[Mike B-12]

Beware!  This came up early last summer.  Read this posting on the poor quality
& incompatibility of the Tyco copies.

http://www.nabble.com/Anderson-%22Power-Pole%22-connectors...-to14078568.html#a14078568

Once again, nothing beats the original.

Jim Sheldon wrote:
>  A friend of mine found them in the April 2008 Mouser catalog.  The
> "Anderson" type connectors are shown on pages 1284 -1285...   They now have
> a posted type contact so you can attach the connector to a circuit board.
>
> You can also go to www.mouser.com and go to mouser stock number 571-14459571
> to open the first entry for the AMP Power Series...

73,

Mike
KW1ND

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[P.B. Christensen]

> Beware!  This came up early last summer.  Read this posting on the poor
> quality & incompatibility of the Tyco copies.

The small PowerPole is already a marginal connector for high-current DC
applications.  I cannot imagine using an "off-shored" type where the
contacts may not seat perfectly.   The larger PowerPoles seat more
effectively due to increased friction resulting from the connector's larger
mating surface area.   But in trying to scale the original PowerPole down in
size, it resulted in a connector that is prone to disconnects from lateral
pressure.

Many people will place the blame for an inadequate design on improper
connector installation -- and that is certainly an issue that contributes to
the problem.  But the sensitivity to accidental pulls remains, even when the
small PowerPole connector is properly installed.  The PowerPole could have
been made significantly better had the designer used an integrated locking
clip (with various sizes) that could accommodate cascaded poles.

I have been using PowerPoles for the past few years with mixed results.
Clearly, when large gauge, stiff wire is used on the smaller PowerPoles,
some other means of securing the cable and connector is necessary.

If my K3's PowerPole connector becomes accidentally unseated, I would hate
to see it become welded together when nearly 20A of DC current is drawn
during full-power TX.  This issue was touched upon in the QST Product
Review.  Personally, I would have rather seen a more traditional AMP or
Molex-style connector used with locking ears.

Paul, W9AC

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[Jim Sheldon]

Thanks for setting me straight Mike.  A friend pointed me to the Mouser
catalog.  He also gave me a handful of the 45 amp ones and I'll test them
against my "real" Anderson ones from PowerWerx.  Since the article you refer
was written by Tom Hammond, N0SS, I have no doubt they are inferior.  I
personally know and trust Tom, and anything he says can usually be taken as
gospel.

Thanks again -- I've passed along the article to my friend as well.
Hopefully his find doesn't come back to "bite" him hi hi.

Jim - W0EB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike B [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:47 AM
> To: Jim Sheldon
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another source for "Anderson
> PowerPole" type connectors
>
> Beware!  This came up early last summer.  Read this posting
> on the poor quality
> & incompatibility of the Tyco copies.
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Anderson-%22Power-Pole%22-connectors...-
> to14078568.html#a14078568
>
> Once again, nothing beats the original.
>
> Jim Sheldon wrote:
> >  A friend of mine found them in the April 2008 Mouser catalog.  The
> > "Anderson" type connectors are shown on pages 1284 -1285...
>   They now have
> > a posted type contact so you can attach the connector to a
> circuit board.
> >
> > You can also go to www.mouser.com and go to mouser stock
> number 571-14459571
> > to open the first entry for the AMP Power Series...
>
> 73,
>
> Mike
> KW1ND
>

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[Peter Howson]

A good source in the UK is:-

http://torberry.co.uk/shop/

>The PowerPole could have been made significantly better had the designer
used an >integrated locking clip (with various sizes) that could accommodate
cascaded poles.

I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code TH-030
LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried it.

73
Peter
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[Tom Hammond-2]

Jim:

UNofficially, I've been told that they may not be 'quite' as good as
the 'real'
APPs, and that they might not fit together as cleanly, or fit into existing
APPs as cleanly. However, this is STRICTLY hearsay to me as I've not
tested them.

FWIW - If you go to the Cable Xperts web site, they have them 30A IN PAIRS
for $0.59/pair.  However, the shipping might eat up the cost savings unless
you can get a group order going. My RC order placed an order and the total
cost per pair ran $0.62/pair.  About as good as I've found anywhere.

73,

Tom   N0SS

At 06:07 03/04/2008, you wrote:

>  A friend of mine found them in the April 2008 Mouser catalog.  The
>"Anderson" type connectors are shown on pages 1284 -1285...   They now have
>a posted type contact so you can attach the connector to a circuit board.
>
>You can also go to www.mouser.com and go to mouser stock number 571-14459571
>to open the first entry for the AMP Power Series...
>
>Price wise, I'm not sure how they will compare to PowerWerx on shipping, but
>Mouser does not have a minimum order to my knowledge and they have never
>charged me anything more than actual shipping.  I looked, but I did not find
>the crimper in Mouser's catalog.  It's probably there, but knowing AMP, it
>is probably a lot more expensive than the real good one offered by
>PowerWerx.  I have that one and it's definitely worth the money if you use a
>lot of the connectors.
>
>Jim - W0EB
>
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[Tom Hammond-2]

Jim, et al:

At 08:03 03/04/2008, Jim Sheldon wrote:
>Thanks for setting me straight Mike.  A friend pointed me to the Mouser
>catalog.  He also gave me a handful of the 45 amp ones and I'll test them
>against my "real" Anderson ones from PowerWerx.  Since the article you refer
>was written by Tom Hammond, N0SS, I have no doubt they are inferior.  I
>personally know and trust Tom, and anything he says can usually be taken as
>gospel.

OH PLEASE... DON'T DO THAT!!!  <G>  I try to verify that which I report, I
have been DEAD WRONG way too many times in the past... as I have read from
others in the past... "TRUST... but VERIFY"...!

73 pal.

Tom

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[AD6XY]

Good Spot!

Farnell also do them in the UK. I have also seen many available via Ebay.

I would not worry too much about them, they have their weaknesses, especially their tendency to come apart from each other because of the lack of a locking mechanism, but at least they are a standard now.

Mike

Peter Howson wrote

A good source in the UK is:-

http://torberry.co.uk/shop/

[M0XDF]

Try here
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=CN03817

less than 1/2 the price


On 04/03/2008 14:31, "Peter Howson" <[hidden email]> sent:

> A good source in the UK is:-
>
> http://torberry.co.uk/shop/
>
>> The PowerPole could have been made significantly better had the designer
> used an >integrated locking clip (with various sizes) that could accommodate
> cascaded poles.
>
> I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code TH-030
> LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried it.
>
> 73
> Peter
> GM8GAX
>
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[w5tvw]

I did some tests on them a couple of years ago.  Got a bunch of samples from
Tyco as they offered many colors.  This was for an engineering project I was
doing.

The connector shells interlocked horribly with each other.  Most were way
too tight.  In this application, there were going to be several gangs of 5-8
connectors linked inline as plugs/sockets.  The internal contacts did not
have the same "spring" as the Anderson ones.

I was very disappointed with the Tyco product and considered it very
inferior to the Anderson ones.  Glad I got samples instead of spending the
money to buy a bunch of them and have a "bomb out" on the project.

I say steer clear of the Tyco/Amp product.  The Anderson product much more
consistant and of better quality.

73,

Sandy W5TVW

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Another source for "Anderson PowerPole" type
connectors

> Jim:
>
> UNofficially, I've been told that they may not be 'quite' as good as the
> 'real'
> APPs, and that they might not fit together as cleanly, or fit into
> existing
> APPs as cleanly. However, this is STRICTLY hearsay to me as I've not
> tested them.
>
> FWIW - If you go to the Cable Xperts web site, they have them 30A IN PAIRS
> for $0.59/pair.  However, the shipping might eat up the cost savings
> unless
> you can get a group order going. My RC order placed an order and the total
> cost per pair ran $0.62/pair.  About as good as I've found anywhere.
>
> 73,
>
> Tom   N0SS
>
> At 06:07 03/04/2008, you wrote:
>>  A friend of mine found them in the April 2008 Mouser catalog.  The
>>"Anderson" type connectors are shown on pages 1284 -1285...   They now
>>have
>>a posted type contact so you can attach the connector to a circuit board.
>>
>>You can also go to www.mouser.com and go to mouser stock number
>>571-14459571
>>to open the first entry for the AMP Power Series...
>>
>>Price wise, I'm not sure how they will compare to PowerWerx on shipping,
>>but
>>Mouser does not have a minimum order to my knowledge and they have never
>>charged me anything more than actual shipping.  I looked, but I did not
>>find
>>the crimper in Mouser's catalog.  It's probably there, but knowing AMP, it
>>is probably a lot more expensive than the real good one offered by
>>PowerWerx.  I have that one and it's definitely worth the money if you use
>>a
>>lot of the connectors.
>>
>>Jim - W0EB
>>
>>
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[KM5Q]

Paul mentioned problem when using large stiff wire. I found a local  
source of EXTREMELY flexible wire in sizes to #8 and larger -- a car  
audio shop that sells those terrible hyper-bass systems. Nice wire!!

Windy KM5Q


> I have been using PowerPoles for the past few years with mixed  
> results.
> Clearly, when large gauge, stiff wire is used on the smaller  
> PowerPoles,
> some other means of securing the cable and connector is necessary.
>
> ...
>
> Paul, W9AC
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[oe9fwv]

hi Peter,

On 4 Mar 2008 at 14:31, Peter Howson wrote:

> I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code
> TH-030 LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried
> it.

from the picture I think it can only be used when two powerpoles are sitting
in the cable and not when one is hidden in the housing of the transceiver.

73! de Werner
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[M0XDF]

Correct, it has 2 pins that go in the hole and a clip that goes down the
back of each end


On 05/03/2008 13:48, "Dr. Werner Furlan" <[hidden email]> sent:

> hi Peter,
>
> On 4 Mar 2008 at 14:31, Peter Howson wrote:
>
>> I see from this UK supplier that there is locking clip available code
>> TH-030 LOK PAK (this may be their code), although I have not yet tried
>> it.
>
> from the picture I think it can only be used when two powerpoles are sitting
> in the cable and not when one is hidden in the housing of the transceiver.
>
> 73! de Werner
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This is a secret not many are aware of .. not only do they have very
nice cables (comprised of many fine strands) but also distribution
blocks, fuse and circuit breaker boxes, terminals, etc.

de w1rt/john

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:27 AM, KM5Q <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Paul mentioned problem when using large stiff wire. I found a local
>  source of EXTREMELY flexible wire in sizes to #8 and larger -- a car
>  audio shop that sells those terrible hyper-bass systems. Nice wire!!
>
>  Windy KM5Q
>
>
>
>  > I have been using PowerPoles for the past few years with mixed
>  > results.
>  > Clearly, when large gauge, stiff wire is used on the smaller
>  > PowerPoles,
>  > some other means of securing the cable and connector is necessary.
>  >
>  > ...
>  >
>  > Paul, W9AC
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[fairbank56]

  Interesting. I started using the AMP connectors several months ago and find them to be superior to Anderson's. The contacts are beefier, they are .035" thick while the Anderson ones are .023" and the AMP ones have stabilizing wings on them so they don't flop around in the housing like the Anderson's. They mate more solidly with a distinct snap/click and it takes 8 pounds of force to pull them apart as opposed to only 3 pounds for the Anderson's. They mate just fine with Anderson connectors and with an AMP mated to an Anderson, it takes 6 pounds of force to pull them apart. The AMP housings lock together with an integral locking tab...no extra roll pin required. The spring is also stronger and holds the contact slightly higher in the housing for more contact force.

Eric N3EF

[fairbank56]

Interesting. I started using the AMP connectors several months ago and find them to be superior to Anderson's. The contacts are beefier, they are .035" thick while the Anderson ones are .023" and the AMP ones have stabilizing wings on them so they don't flop around in the housing like the Anderson's. They mate more solidly with a distinct snap/click and it takes 8 pounds of force to pull them apart as opposed to only 3 pounds for the Anderson's. They mate just fine with Anderson connectors and with an AMP mated to an Anderson, it takes 6 pounds of force to pull them apart. The AMP housings lock together with an integral locking tab...no extra roll pin required. The spring is also stronger and holds the contact slightly higher in the housing for more contact force.

Eric N3EF

[David Cutter]

Eric

What name or series do they go under, do you have a link?

Am I right in thinking AMP is now owned by Tyco?

David
G3UNA

>
>
> Interesting. I started using the AMP connectors several months ago and
> find
> them to be superior to Anderson's. The contacts are beefier, they are
> .035"
> thick while the Anderson ones are .023" and the AMP ones have stabilizing
> wings on them so they don't flop around in the housing like the
> Anderson's.
> They mate more solidly with a distinct snap/click and it takes 8 pounds of
> force to pull them apart as opposed to only 3 pounds for the Anderson's.
> They mate just fine with Anderson connectors and with an AMP mated to an
> Anderson, it takes 6 pounds of force to pull them apart. The AMP housings
> lock together with an integral locking tab...no extra roll pin required.
> The
> spring is also stronger and holds the contact slightly higher in the
> housing
> for more contact force.
>
> Eric N3EF
>
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[fairbank56]

--- David Cutter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Eric
>
> What name or series do they go under, do you have a
> link?
>
  Well, now I see that Mouser sells two different
kinds of these AMP/Tyco connectors. The ones that I am
refering to are the AMP Power Lock Series I connectors
on page 1285 of the latest Mouser catalog. I think
this thread is refering to the other ones on page 1284
that are more similar to the Anderson ones. I have not
used those and cannot verify that they are inferior to
the Anderson's.

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[w7aqk]

And I wonder if one, or the other, or both, would mate with
an Anderson Power Pole.  I ask because it would be good to
know that any already used wouldn't have to be replaced if
you decided to try the different ones.

Dave W7AQK



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--- David Cutter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Eric
>
> What name or series do they go under, do you have a
> link?
>
  Well, now I see that Mouser sells two different
kinds of these AMP/Tyco connectors. The ones that I am
refering to are the AMP Power Lock Series I connectors
on page 1285 of the latest Mouser catalog. I think
this thread is refering to the other ones on page 1284
that are more similar to the Anderson ones. I have not
used those and cannot verify that they are inferior to
the Anderson's.

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[fairbank56]

  Yes, I already stated that the ones I'm using mate
just fine with the Anderson's.

Eric N3EF

--- "T. David Yarnes" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> And I wonder if one, or the other, or both, would
> mate with
> an Anderson Power Pole.


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