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wa9fvp
I guess I should have posted this in the K3 section and not in the Electraft section.

In January and October of 1992 I wrote two QEX articles on a project that
another Ham and I worked on called the "Hamblaster". We developed a DSP based
sound card that used filter programs for noise reduction and auto notch.

A feature that we added proved to be quite interesting in some respects and
corrected problems where the DSP was outside the AGC loop. First of all the
Hamblaster had its own AGC loop that maintained an optimal baseband level.

There was an on screen option to freeze filters. My theory was "Why design an
auto notch that continuously adapts". You only need to converge on the
interfering carrier once. After that, there's no need to re-adapt.  If the interfering
 carrier changes, to readapt, you can press the auto notch button again.

Because everything was done in software, we added buttons on the PC screen where
 you can set a parameter to automatically freeze the auto notch after a given
time or you can manually freeze it. This worked well and after the notch was
locked to carrier, there was no distortion.

We even added a freeze button on the noise reduction. I noticed that when the
filter adapted to ones voice. The LMS algorithm was, for the most part, was
optimized to the person's voice characteristics and the filter was optimal for
the whole QSO. The drawback was that it took several tries to get it right.
Some times the filter lock on the high frequency elements of speech and other
times on the low frequency components but it reduced noise to a certain degree
without the usual artifacts in the noise floor.

I thought that this would be an interesting feature to add to the K3 in the next
 firmware upgrade.

Jack WA9FVP
Willco Electronics.

Jack WA9FVP

Sent from my home-brew I5 Core PC
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Re: Auto Notch Filter Freeze

Bruce Beford-2
Probably doesn't matter much, since "sections" are only seen/used by those
who read the Nabble list on-line. Messages posted to Nabble are (eventually)
copied directly to the main Elecraft email list-serv without any category or
section. I believe the Elecraft pricipals involved- That is Wayne, Eric, and
DSP guru Lyle (who is currently on vacation, I believe), read via the
mailman.qth reflector, not Nabble. So, for the most part, not of that Nabble
categorization matters, except to the minority that read there.
 
That said, I like the sound (no pun intended- or was it...) or you
suggestion. I think it is worth examining the possibility. Thanks for
bringing it up.
 
73,
Bruce, N1RX
 
 > I guess I should have posted this in the K3 section and not in the
Electraft
> section.
 

 

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RE: Auto Notch Filter Freeze

Robby.VY2SS

Why are you sending this to me?

 

-Robby

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From: Bruce Beford-2 [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:55 PM
To: Robby.VY2SS
Subject: Re: Auto Notch Filter Freeze

 

Probably doesn't matter much, since "sections" are only seen/used by those
who read the Nabble list on-line. Messages posted to Nabble are (eventually)
copied directly to the main Elecraft email list-serv without any category or
section. I believe the Elecraft pricipals involved- That is Wayne, Eric, and
DSP guru Lyle (who is currently on vacation, I believe), read via the
mailman.qth reflector, not Nabble. So, for the most part, not of that Nabble
categorization matters, except to the minority that read there.
 
That said, I like the sound (no pun intended- or was it...) or you
suggestion. I think it is worth examining the possibility. Thanks for
bringing it up.
 
73,
Bruce, N1RX
 
 > I guess I should have posted this in the K3 section and not in the
Electraft
> section.
 

 

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Robby.VY2SS
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Please do not send these emails to me.

 

-Robby

VY2SS

 

From: wa9fvp [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:15 PM
To: Robby.VY2SS
Subject: Auto Notch Filter Freeze

 

I guess I should have posted this in the K3 section and not in the Electraft section.

In January and October of 1992 I wrote two QEX articles on a project that
another Ham and I worked on called the "Hamblaster". We developed a DSP based
sound card that used filter programs for noise reduction and auto notch.

A feature that we added proved to be quite interesting in some respects and
corrected problems where the DSP was outside the AGC loop. First of all the
Hamblaster had its own AGC loop that maintained an optimal baseband level.

There was an on screen option to freeze filters. My theory was "Why design an
auto notch that continuously adapts". You only need to converge on the
interfering carrier once. After that, there's no need to re-adapt.  If the interfering
 carrier changes, to readapt, you can press the auto notch button again.

Because everything was done in software, we added buttons on the PC screen where
 you can set a parameter to automatically freeze the auto notch after a given
time or you can manually freeze it. This worked well and after the notch was
locked to carrier, there was no distortion.

We even added a freeze button on the noise reduction. I noticed that when the
filter adapted to ones voice. The LMS algorithm was, for the most part, was
optimized to the person's voice characteristics and the filter was optimal for
the whole QSO. The drawback was that it took several tries to get it right.
Some times the filter lock on the high frequency elements of speech and other
times on the low frequency components but it reduced noise to a certain degree
without the usual artifacts in the noise floor.

I thought that this would be an interesting feature to add to the K3 in the next
 firmware upgrade.

Jack WA9FVP
Willco Electronics.

Jack WA9FVP

Sent from my TRS-80 :-)

 


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