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Birdie ?

Ken Kopp-3
FWIW my K2 #5665 -does- have the "birdie" zero beat at 3589 kHz.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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----- Original Message -----
From: Russ
To: [hidden email] ; K2/100 S/N 838
Sent: Saturday, 19 July, 2008 21:49
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Birdie ?


I don't work 80 meters very often but I just checked my K2/100 and I
have
the very same strong birdie.  I never noticed this before and have had
the
radio for 4 years.  Let us know what you find out.

Russ, N3CO
----- Original Message -----
From: "K2/100 S/N 838" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Birdie ?


> Dear Kindly List Members,
>
> Thanks for alerting me this is not normal.
>
> Yes, I do have enough savy to take the antenna off, and yes, even with
> a dummy load there is no difference.  It is something internal in the
> K2/100.
>
> If no one on the list has any idea what is causing it, I'll drop a
> note to Gary, Don, or one of the other Elecraft experts.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TR, WB6TMY
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>I am showing a very strong signal at 3590 KHz - is this normal ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TR, WB6TMY

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Re: Birdie ?

w7qhd
OK. I give. With the antenna off I hear the birdie. It's S-0. With the band noise on 80 I can't hear it with the antenna on even in mid day.

Kurt W7QHD
---- Ken Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote:

> FWIW my K2 #5665 -does- have the "birdie" zero beat at 3589 kHz.
>
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
>      [hidden email]
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russ
> To: [hidden email] ; K2/100 S/N 838
> Sent: Saturday, 19 July, 2008 21:49
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Birdie ?
>
>
> I don't work 80 meters very often but I just checked my K2/100 and I
> have
> the very same strong birdie.  I never noticed this before and have had
> the
> radio for 4 years.  Let us know what you find out.
>
> Russ, N3CO
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K2/100 S/N 838" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:03 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Birdie ?
>
>
> > Dear Kindly List Members,
> >
> > Thanks for alerting me this is not normal.
> >
> > Yes, I do have enough savy to take the antenna off, and yes, even with
> > a dummy load there is no difference.  It is something internal in the
> > K2/100.
> >
> > If no one on the list has any idea what is causing it, I'll drop a
> > note to Gary, Don, or one of the other Elecraft experts.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > TR, WB6TMY
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >I am showing a very strong signal at 3590 KHz - is this normal ?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >TR, WB6TMY
>
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Re: Birdie ?

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
That figures, this birdie gets to the point of entry into the signal path
via two birth routes, so it is not surprising that the strength of this
birdie is different receiver to receiver. The dominant source of this birdie
is the PLL refernce oscillator which is 'heard' by the 2LO - IF spurious
response of the receiver when tuned to 3590 kHz approx.   2(3590 + 4914) -
4914  =  12094 kHz,  if the IF = 4914 kHz.

If of any help, the point of entry into the signal path of my K2 was centred
in the region of the relays K16 and K17 (attenuator and preamp switching),
via two birth routes. There was the radiated signal from the PLL oscillator
picked up by the pcb trace D6 - relays - mixer input , and a conducted
signal entering via one or both of the relay coil circuits. I need to see my
notes which are not here to be certain whether it was via one relay coil or
both.

The other potential birdies around this frequency were at or below my K2
receiver's noise floor IIRC when using a dummy load at the input.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD



----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>; "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Birdie ?


> OK. I give. With the antenna off I hear the birdie. It's S-0. With the
> band noise on 80 I can't hear it with the antenna on even in mid day.
>
> Kurt W7QHD

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