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Edward A. Dauer

Buy a K3S?

Agree fully with the suggestions.

As to equipment, I once saw a sign in a high-end telescope shop: “Buy the best first and cry only once.”

Ted, KN1CBR

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Message: 30
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:46:19 -0400
From: "Jerry Moore" <[hidden email]>
To: "'Reuben Popp'" <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft Reflector
Reflector'" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S
Message-ID: <002201d1e1ed$d7ebf940$87c3ebc0$@carolinaheli.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I will throw my view into the mix.

As a new Ham operator you have no idea what you want to do in the hobby
other than EVERYTHING!!!
In addition to wanting to do everything we're also most often budget limited
to some extent.

Challenge: Weigh the desire to do everything with the most cost effective
way to get started until we know what we actually enjoy.

Suggestions:
1. Find a mentor (in our hobby they are called Elmers) to help you along,
get you on the air, and help you get experience to find out WHAT you ENJOY
doing in the hobby.
2. Meet with as many hams who do different things in the hobby as you can
and ask them to show you that part of the hobby....example: HF, UHF/VHF,
EME, DX, Contesting, Different modes....etc..

Once you know what you ENJOY in the hobby you can best invest in the
resources to engage.

My world view of ham radio gear specific to Elecraft:

Most Gear Advantage (generalizations): cheaper, simple to use/operate
(appliance operator ), may have firmware updates.
Most Gear Disadvantage (generalizations): limited to the manf. Design limits
and locked to model, firmware updates generally limited to correcting bugs
and not generally to add features/functionality.

Elecraft Disadvantages (my opinion and generalizations): High entry price,
operator MUST learn to use the gear, configurations can be complex and are
generally open ended
Elecraft Advantages (my opinion and generalizations): Gear is highly
adaptable to conditions and configuration based on operator demands a the
time, hardware and software upgrades (both hardware and software upgrades
have traditionally been for new features/functionality in addition to bug
fixes).

Summary: I would have been happy with a less expensive radio, however, I
would have been frustrated at the limitations. I purchased my Elecraft K3S
specifically to avoid the frustrations I've experienced with other gear in
the past. To date I've not been let down (although the cost of the options
has prevented me from doing the add-ons that would be nice to have..e.g. sub
rx, P3..etc).

Jerry Moore
AE4PB

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Nr4c

Re: Buy a K3S?

AKA “Buy nice, not twice”

…bc nr4c

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Agree fully with the suggestions.
>
> As to equipment, I once saw a sign in a high-end telescope shop: “Buy the best first and cry only once.”
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:46:19 -0400
> From: "Jerry Moore" <[hidden email]>
> To: "'Reuben Popp'" <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft Reflector
> Reflector'" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S
> Message-ID: <002201d1e1ed$d7ebf940$87c3ebc0$@carolinaheli.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I will throw my view into the mix.
>
> As a new Ham operator you have no idea what you want to do in the hobby
> other than EVERYTHING!!!
> In addition to wanting to do everything we're also most often budget limited
> to some extent.
>
> Challenge: Weigh the desire to do everything with the most cost effective
> way to get started until we know what we actually enjoy.
>
> Suggestions:
> 1. Find a mentor (in our hobby they are called Elmers) to help you along,
> get you on the air, and help you get experience to find out WHAT you ENJOY
> doing in the hobby.
> 2. Meet with as many hams who do different things in the hobby as you can
> and ask them to show you that part of the hobby....example: HF, UHF/VHF,
> EME, DX, Contesting, Different modes....etc..
>
> Once you know what you ENJOY in the hobby you can best invest in the
> resources to engage.
>
>
> My world view of ham radio gear specific to Elecraft:
>
> Most Gear Advantage (generalizations): cheaper, simple to use/operate
> (appliance operator ), may have firmware updates.
> Most Gear Disadvantage (generalizations): limited to the manf. Design limits
> and locked to model, firmware updates generally limited to correcting bugs
> and not generally to add features/functionality.
>
>
> Elecraft Disadvantages (my opinion and generalizations): High entry price,
> operator MUST learn to use the gear, configurations can be complex and are
> generally open ended
> Elecraft Advantages (my opinion and generalizations): Gear is highly
> adaptable to conditions and configuration based on operator demands a the
> time, hardware and software upgrades (both hardware and software upgrades
> have traditionally been for new features/functionality in addition to bug
> fixes).
>
>
>
>
> Summary: I would have been happy with a less expensive radio, however, I
> would have been frustrated at the limitations. I purchased my Elecraft K3S
> specifically to avoid the frustrations I've experienced with other gear in
> the past. To date I've not been let down (although the cost of the options
> has prevented me from doing the add-ons that would be nice to have..e.g. sub
> rx, P3..etc).
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB
>
>
>
>
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>
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Reuben Popp

Re: Buy a K3S?

Er... Sorry Bill, this was meant to go to the list...

So... maybe a bit foolish of me, but... it's a bit like Christmas.

Don't kill me, but, I was given a very nice deal on a brand new, never used
ICOM 7700 for well over half of what its current msrp is **Note, I really
meant that the unit cost me well under half of what the current msrp is**.
On top of that, my OT check had a very nice "bonus" from my employer. So,
all told, I can get the 7700 and a KX3, and [hopefully] a KDSP2 for my
K2/10 if someone on the list here has a spare (built or unbuilt) they're
willing to part with.

The full blown K3S will have to wait until the next big set of OT projects
where the XYL doesn't lay claim to the check.

Thanks everyone for their input, it's greatly appreciated :D

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Bill Conkling <[hidden email]> wrote:

> AKA “Buy nice, not twice”
>
> …bc nr4c
>
>
>
> > On Jul 19, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Agree fully with the suggestions.
> >
> > As to equipment, I once saw a sign in a high-end telescope shop: “Buy
> the best first and cry only once.”
> >
> > Ted, KN1CBR
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 30
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:46:19 -0400
> > From: "Jerry Moore" <[hidden email]>
> > To: "'Reuben Popp'" <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft Reflector
> > Reflector'" <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S
> > Message-ID: <002201d1e1ed$d7ebf940$87c3ebc0$@carolinaheli.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I will throw my view into the mix.
> >
> > As a new Ham operator you have no idea what you want to do in the hobby
> > other than EVERYTHING!!!
> > In addition to wanting to do everything we're also most often budget
> limited
> > to some extent.
> >
> > Challenge: Weigh the desire to do everything with the most cost
> effective
> > way to get started until we know what we actually enjoy.
> >
> > Suggestions:
> > 1. Find a mentor (in our hobby they are called Elmers) to help you along,
> > get you on the air, and help you get experience to find out WHAT you
> ENJOY
> > doing in the hobby.
> > 2. Meet with as many hams who do different things in the hobby as you can
> > and ask them to show you that part of the hobby....example: HF, UHF/VHF,
> > EME, DX, Contesting, Different modes....etc..
> >
> > Once you know what you ENJOY in the hobby you can best invest in the
> > resources to engage.
> >
> >
> > My world view of ham radio gear specific to Elecraft:
> >
> > Most Gear Advantage (generalizations): cheaper, simple to use/operate
> > (appliance operator ), may have firmware updates.
> > Most Gear Disadvantage (generalizations): limited to the manf. Design
> limits
> > and locked to model, firmware updates generally limited to correcting
> bugs
> > and not generally to add features/functionality.
> >
> >
> > Elecraft Disadvantages (my opinion and generalizations): High entry
> price,
> > operator MUST learn to use the gear, configurations can be complex and
> are
> > generally open ended
> > Elecraft Advantages (my opinion and generalizations): Gear is highly
> > adaptable to conditions and configuration based on operator demands a the
> > time, hardware and software upgrades (both hardware and software upgrades
> > have traditionally been for new features/functionality in addition to bug
> > fixes).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Summary: I would have been happy with a less expensive radio, however, I
> > would have been frustrated at the limitations. I purchased my Elecraft
> K3S
> > specifically to avoid the frustrations I've experienced with other gear
> in
> > the past. To date I've not been let down (although the cost of the
> options
> > has prevented me from doing the add-ons that would be nice to have..e.g.
> sub
> > rx, P3..etc).
> >
> > Jerry Moore
> > AE4PB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
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> >
> > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 147, Issue 35
> > *****************************************
> >
> >
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