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Grant Youngman-2

Buyer Beware!

The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Ron Manfredi

Re: Buyer Beware!

Also here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL

Seems they like high-end technical gear.

Ron WA2EIO

On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: Buyer Beware!

They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio category (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal tunnel filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.

Grant NQ5T

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Also here:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>
> Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>
>
> Ron WA2EIO
>
>
>
> On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> ______________________________________________________________

w6ipa

Re: Buyer Beware!

Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these
statements ?
I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that
the seller has 100% positive feedback ?

Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio category
> (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal tunnel filing
> “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Also here:
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
> >
> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
> >
> >
> > Ron WA2EIO
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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David Bunte

Re: Buyer Beware!

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The link to the listing for the K3 etc... is no longer valid. Did Ebay
already take it down?

Dave - K9FN

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:40 PM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ron Manfredi

Re: Buyer Beware!

In reply to this post by w6ipa

Well one of their photos has text that tells you they will not
respond through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be
removed.   No matter what their feedback rating, those policies should
be enough of a warning.   I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.

Ron   WA2EIO

On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:

> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to
> these statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given
> that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
> category (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal
> tunnel filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay
> actually cares much.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >
> > Also here:
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
> >
> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
> >
> >
> > Ron WA2EIO
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
> >>
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
> >> ______________________________________________________________
>
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Julia Tuttle

Re: Buyer Beware!

In reply to this post by Grant Youngman-2

That particular listing seems to have been removed between when I first
read your post and when I looked again just now.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:40 PM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:

Grant Youngman-2

Re: Buyer Beware!

In reply to this post by Ron Manfredi

This is not a bad joke. You're pointing fingers in the wrong place. As is typical with this scam (which has been ongoing for years now), the listed seller’s account has been hacked by a malevolent third party. You can pretty well guarantee that the listing is fraudulent, and has not been posted by the seller shown with the ad. Odds are he doesn’t even know it’s out there. It may be that seller’s account, but it isn’t that guy.

Grant NQ5T

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well one of their photos has text that tells you they will not respond through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed. No matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a warning. I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron WA2EIO
>
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these statements ?
>> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>>
>> Jc/W6ipa
>>

w6ipa

Re: Buyer Beware!

In reply to this post by Ron Manfredi

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far
as going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well one of their photos has text that tells you they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed. No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning. I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to these
> statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given that
> the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
>> category (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal tunnel
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-Sohne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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Dave wo2x

Re: Buyer Beware!

Already removed.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:30 PM
To: Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Refl <[hidden email]>; Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far as going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well one of their photos has text that tells you they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed. No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning. I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to
> these statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given
> that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
>> category (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal tunnel
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-So
>> hne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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George Thornton

Re: Buyer Beware!

Hackers are getting very sophisticated. I have heard of situations where they have hacked into individual and business email accounts, sending messages to banks and other organizations to steal substantial sums of money.

You have to be very careful these days.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Already removed.

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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:30 PM
To: Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Refl <[hidden email]>; Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

Thanks for explaining - this is definitely suspicious - I did not go as far as going through the pictures.

Thanks for the education

Jc/W6ipa

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well one of their photos has text that tells you they will not respond
> through the E-Bay mail system, and that any bids will be removed. No
> matter what their feedback rating, those policies should be enough of a
> warning. I am surprised that E-Bay hasn't banned them.
>
> Ron WA2EIO
> On 2/27/2021 1:59 PM, W6IPA wrote:
>
> Is it a group private joke or is there actual facts that leads to
> these statements ?
> I mean if the reports are line these posts - what can eBay do given
> that the seller has 100% positive feedback ?
>
> Jc/W6ipa
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 10:50 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> They posted a large number of items this morning in the Ham Radio
>> category (and probably many other places). I’m getting carpal tunnel
>> filing “reports”, although it isn’t clear that eBay actually cares much.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Ron Manfredi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Also here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/collection-Marine-chronometer-847-A-Lange-So
>> hne/313435822886?hash=item48fa3b1b26:g:akgAAOSw309gOowL
>> >
>> > Seems they like high-end technical gear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron WA2EIO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/27/2021 1:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> >> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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Larry Shapiro

Re: Buyer Beware!

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I played this guy's game out to the end a few weeks ago when he had a K3S
and KPA-1500 for sale for $2000.

I offered the 2k,and was then sent a link that looked like it was Ebay,but
wasn't..
As soon as I accused him of trying to rip me off,he went away.
Larry k6ro

-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Youngman
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:38 AM
To: Elecraft Refl
Subject: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!

The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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Re: Buyer Beware!

GA all,

I’ve turned this outfit in so many times I can no longer count. I don’t know how these keep getting through fleaBay, but they do.

Be careful out there. I will generally not buy radio gear if a callsign is not present in the description and/or photographs.

Good catch...

David Thompson, AG7TX
Jack of All Trades
Master of None
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> On Feb 27, 2021, at 14:13, Larry Shapiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I played this guy's game out to the end a few weeks ago when he had a K3S and KPA-1500 for sale for $2000.
>
> I offered the 2k,and was then sent a link that looked like it was Ebay,but wasn't..
> As soon as I accused him of trying to rip me off,he went away.
> Larry k6ro
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Grant Youngman
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: Elecraft Refl
> Subject: [Elecraft] Buyer Beware!
>
> The eBay fraud crew is back in full force.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-K-Line/313435863056
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