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Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! The radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit there. It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't know of a legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz anywhere in the world. Say it isn't so, please .... Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Wednesday, 19 December, 2007 16:54 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] #174 band limits Please note that the K3 -always- blocks high power TX in the CB band, regardless of what is programmed in for band TX limits. 73, Eric WA6HHQ ---- David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: >> "Opening" the rig up, as you put it, would be unwise as it would >> enable >> you to operate high power CB. Now you wouldn't want to do that, >> would >> you? >> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Ken - My email said exactly the opposite :-) The K3 -always- blocks
TX in the CB band (except out the 0 dBm transverter port.) 73, Eric WA6HHQ ---- Ken Kopp wrote: > Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner > would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! The > radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit > there. > > It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't know of a > legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz anywhere > in the world. > > Say it isn't so, please .... > > Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > To: David Ferrington, M0XDF > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December, 2007 16:54 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] #174 band limits > > Please note that the K3 -always- blocks high power TX in the CB band, > regardless of what is programmed in for band TX limits. > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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That depends on what you are doing with your K3. If you are driving a 430MHz transverter then if 28MHz translates to 432MHz as is usual, frequencies below 432MHz end up in the CB band. In many countries it is perfectly legitimate to transmit below 432MHz, which would require only low power TX in the CB band below 28 MHz. This is why Eric calls it "high power TX".
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At 01:52 PM 12/19/2007, Ken Kopp wrote:
>Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz >CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner >would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! Aw come on....it's a matter of law, not self respect....and the radio can't get soiled b transmitting anywhere > The >radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit >there. Ah, I see...it was humorous post, wasn't it? Thom _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities. In fact, I think
it should be configurable by the end user. Let me explain. Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards to Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate on non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB. Sometimes in a disaster situation you may need to communicate with non-hams who are only equipped with FRS or CB. One prime example of this in a drill we did was a trucker coming in to deliver supplies to a shelter. We needed to "talk in" the driver to the shelter over CB. As far as "soiling" your K3, look at it this way; you'll probably have the sweetest, cleanest sounding AM signal on the CB band :-) Yea, I know it's not type accepted for use in CB/Part 95, but neither are the thousands of amplifiers and "specially tuned" chrome monsters you see on eBay each day. Also, any CBer wanting a hot signal isn't going to buy an Elecraft K3. For much less money they can buy one of those garbage rigs and a "six pill" amp with more so-called "talk power". All my rigs are modified for "DC to daylight" transmit. Do I ever use it? No, but it's good to know that if I'm ever put in the situation I can fire up communications on most any band in a heartbeat. Sure, I can wreak havoc on any band as well with my equipment and its expanded functionality, but that's why we're licensed amateurs.....we know not to do that stuff and we have the know how and motivation to use our powers for good, not evil.... 73 Goody K3NG Ken Kopp wrote: > Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner > would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! The > radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit > there. > > It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't know of a > legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz anywhere > in the world. > > Say it isn't so, please .... > > -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Amen Ed KD3Y > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft- > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Goody K3NG > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:12 PM > To: Elecraft List > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked! > > I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities. In fact, I think > it should be configurable by the end user. Let me explain. > > Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards to > Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at > meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate on > non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB. Sometimes in a disaster situation > you may need to communicate with non-hams who are only equipped with FRS > or CB. One prime example of this in a drill we did was a trucker coming > in to deliver supplies to a shelter. We needed to "talk in" the driver > to the shelter over CB. > > As far as "soiling" your K3, look at it this way; you'll probably have > the sweetest, cleanest sounding AM signal on the CB band :-) Yea, I > know it's not type accepted for use in CB/Part 95, but neither are the > thousands of amplifiers and "specially tuned" chrome monsters you see on > eBay each day. Also, any CBer wanting a hot signal isn't going to buy > an Elecraft K3. For much less money they can buy one of those garbage > rigs and a "six pill" amp with more so-called "talk power". > > All my rigs are modified for "DC to daylight" transmit. Do I ever use > it? No, but it's good to know that if I'm ever put in the situation I > can fire up communications on most any band in a heartbeat. Sure, I can > wreak havoc on any band as well with my equipment and its expanded > functionality, but that's why we're licensed amateurs.....we know not to > do that stuff and we have the know how and motivation to use our powers > for good, not evil.... > > 73 > Goody > K3NG > > Ken Kopp wrote: > > Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz > > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner > > would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band! The > > radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit > > there. > > > > It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't know of a > > legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz anywhere > > in the world. > > > > Say it isn't so, please .... > > > > > > > -- > Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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There has been at least one case of emergency in the Oz outback where
the ability to transmit on a CB frequency by a ham has brought a welcome response. The local Radio Frequency Authority took a sensible attitude. A ham rig is not "type approved" for the CB frequency, but the Department apparently took the view that the regulations never envisioned that type of emergency need, and that the preservation of life was paramount. 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, KBG Luxford wrote:
> The local Radio Frequency Authority took a sensible attitude. A ham rig is > not "type approved" for the CB frequency, but the Department apparently took > the view that the regulations never envisioned that type of emergency need, > and that the preservation of life was paramount. Egads...common sense instead of knee-jerks? Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:12:05 -0500, Goody K3NG wrote:
> Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards > to Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at > meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate > on non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB. Sometimes in a disaster > situation you may need to communicate with non-hams who are only > equipped with FRS or CB. One prime example of this in a drill we > did was a trucker coming in to deliver supplies to a shelter. We > needed to "talk in" the driver to the shelter over CB. And what excuse are you going to rely on if the FCC declares that the "out-of-band" communication did not meet the very specific and narrow "window" permitting "any frequency, any power"? When I was on the FCC enforcement staff I served on several investigations of such situations, and although you may feel that given the same facts there was no other choice, none of the "out-of-band" situations was found to meet the requirements. The answer to the "CB/FRS" problem? Use the proper radios. All of our comm centers and EOCs have them - they are very cheap. Plan ahead. It's your license on the line, as well as seizure and forfeiture of your radio equipment. 'Nuff said. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ARRL Volunteer Counsel Member, Washington County, OR Emergency Communications Team for ARES/RACES and HEARTNET _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Phil Kane wrote:
> > And what excuse are you going to rely on if the FCC declares that > the "out-of-band" communication did not meet the very specific > and narrow "window" permitting "any frequency, any power"? Based on your professional expertise and history, it might be valuable to give us all some concrete examples of situations that satisfy the very specific and narrow window. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Or better yet a list of those that were fined or sanction for attempting to
assist in an emergency. In my nearly 30 years as a ham I can't ever recall someone getting in trouble for trying to help. On 12/19/07 6:45 PM, "Thom LaCosta" <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Phil Kane wrote: > >> >> And what excuse are you going to rely on if the FCC declares that >> the "out-of-band" communication did not meet the very specific >> and narrow "window" permitting "any frequency, any power"? > > Based on your professional expertise and history, it might be valuable to give > us all some concrete examples of situations that satisfy the very specific and > narrow window. > > > Thom,EIEIO > Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer > > www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Dec 19, 2007 1:52 PM, Ken Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner I was wondering, my understanding is that this transmit limitation is a firmware based restriction, so _in theory_ the K3's RF components could transmit from 1.8 - 50 MHz (minus the IF frequency)? I am just wondering if there is any RF design considerations that would restrict or limit transmission within its operating frequencies extremes. -Michael, VE3TIX _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> Or better yet a list of those that were fined or sanction for attempting to > assist in an emergency. In my nearly 30 years as a ham I can't ever recall > someone getting in trouble for trying to help. > Based on my own experience with regulators and enforcers on federal, state and local levels, the phrase "No good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Michael,
> wondering if there is any RF design considerations that would restrict > or limit transmission within its operating frequencies extremes. The bandpasses, I would assume. They appear to be fairly narrow. vy 73 de toby _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Whats also concerning is that this decision has been
made only from the perspective of US laws not even taking into consideration the international market. In Australia there is a legal 27mhz marine band that is monitored and has full legal status just as the VHF FM marine band does. Its use is probably bigger than the VHF marine band which has strict regulations and channel occupation usage rules. So if i am not legally allowed to use a non type accepted radio on 12 mhz marine why would 27 mhz be any different and be singled out? I am still breaking the law! In many places in the Pacific 27 mhz CB has become the equivalent of the bush telephone. When you cruise or sail you can order fuel, supplies or even call the doctor to the other side of the Island on 27 mhz. The decision in many ways is hypocritical especially when you consider that the K3 is not type accepted for Marine HF use, nor is it NTIA certified for MARS. However i am sure many will be used on these frequencies. I would be more concerned about breaking NTIA rules than FCC 27mhz rules. If you were applying the law impartially you would not allow any out of band TX while the radio has no legal status except on the ham bands. Craig VK3HE --- Goody K3NG <[hidden email]> wrote: > I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities. > In fact, I think > it should be configurable by the end user. Let me > explain. > > Recently our county has been getting its act > together in regards to > Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational > programs at > meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to > communicate on > non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB. Sometimes in a > disaster situation > you may need to communicate with non-hams who are > only equipped with FRS > or CB. One prime example of this in a drill we did > was a trucker coming > in to deliver supplies to a shelter. We needed to > "talk in" the driver > to the shelter over CB. > > As far as "soiling" your K3, look at it this way; > you'll probably have > the sweetest, cleanest sounding AM signal on the CB > band :-) Yea, I > know it's not type accepted for use in CB/Part 95, > but neither are the > thousands of amplifiers and "specially tuned" chrome > monsters you see on > eBay each day. Also, any CBer wanting a hot signal > isn't going to buy > an Elecraft K3. For much less money they can buy > one of those garbage > rigs and a "six pill" amp with more so-called "talk > power". > > All my rigs are modified for "DC to daylight" > transmit. Do I ever use > it? No, but it's good to know that if I'm ever put > in the situation I > can fire up communications on most any band in a > heartbeat. Sure, I can > wreak havoc on any band as well with my equipment > and its expanded > functionality, but that's why we're licensed > amateurs.....we know not to > do that stuff and we have the know how and > motivation to use our powers > for good, not evil.... > > 73 > Goody > K3NG > > Ken Kopp wrote: > > Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in > the 27 mHz > > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting > Elecraft owner > > would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB > band! The > > radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to > transmit > > there. > > > > It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't > know of a > > legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz > anywhere > > in the world. > > > > Say it isn't so, please .... > > > > > > > -- > Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Good morning all,
I just had to reply to this thread. First let me say that I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE! JUST MY OPINIONS! Speaking as the past ARES EC for Baltimore, I see no reason to TX on out of band freqs. My group trained on several occasions with a REACT (the CB equivalent to ARES/RACES) operator co-stationed with us. The scenarios called for mobile REACT ops to patrol their area, and on finding a problem, calling their person at our site. That person would relay, in person, to my op and they would put the info out on VHF to the EOC or whoever. This worked great! It never fails to amuse me that grown men (_Not just this list or hobby_, but in everything I have been involved with) will spend a bazillion dollars for a top of the line piece of gear and then try to nickel and dime their way through all the accessories. If you can afford $3K for a radio and have the time and desire to volunteer, spend a hundred bucks and buy the CB if you want to TX there! Then spend another hundred and buy a good pelican case to transport it! No, I am not affiliated in any way with Pelican. I have known of one of their boxes bouncing out of the back of a utility company truck doing 60 mph on I-95! A customer retrieved it and called us. The box was not even damaged as to needing replacement! and the instrument was unaffected! I wouldn't put my $3k rig in anything else! Having said all that, remember that the rules say that IF in a true life threatening situation, you may use whatever means at your disposal to summon help! I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE! JUST MY OPINIONS! Thank you for allowing me to exercise my soapbox! I will now slip back into the shadows and enjoy this list, wishing all on the list a Merry Christmas and Happy new year. 73 In His service, Jim Cundiff KB3GFC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm just a dumb ole country boy that somehow wound up in a big city. A
few thoughts on this subject, in no particular order, would be as follows. 1. Plan before acting. 2. Use the right tool for the job. 3. Count to 10 before diving into something. 4. Use your common sense before using anything else. 5. Do what has to be done. Now it seems to me those all apply to the discussion at hand. If one is fortunate enough to afford a K3 and giving enough to volunteer as part of an organized disaster team most likely they also can afford to buy a $39 family radio and a $69 CB. Both would be good items to have and fall under 1 and 2. If on the other hand someone just happens to run around with a nice K3 as their mobile radio of choice and just happens to come across a true life and death emergency, calling for help on CB or other frequencies with it would seem to fall under 4 and 5. The problem seems to me to be a decided lack of ammo for number 4 in far too many cases. Just some old country boy thoughts on the subject. -- 73 K5LDB ---------- Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his
radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect anyone else? No. Ham Radio is starting to remind me of all the homeowner's associations that are run by older folks that have nothing better to do than get in everyone else's business because they have nothing to do. You watch your hen house and I will watch mine. If I need help from you I will be sure to ask. US Amateurs have not been tasked with being the enforcement arm of the FCC. If you are in other countries your mileage my vary. Elecraft has regulatory obligations that they must meet to be in compliance with their certification. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not me, I am CW only and never get above 28.050mHz.
de Joe, aa4nn ! > Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his > radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect > anyone else? No. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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