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Good Evening,
I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have any good settings to recommend? Mark Griffin, KB3Z ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Mark,
Only you can determine what is correct. You need to use a CW tone that "feels" best to you. After that, knock off all the frequencies above and below your desired CW tone. What you are going to do is essentially filter out more noise and distractions that your receive filters allow through. The problem with more specific recommendations are that I hear audio differently than you, therefore you need to set it up for yourself and your ears. That's part of the fun of having a radio where you can adjust everything, finding what works best for you. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/26/2015 11:39 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > Good Evening, > I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have any good settings to recommend? > Mark Griffin, KB3Z > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Note that Rx EQ does not add additional stages of filtering selectivity.
The DSP builds a single filter which includes the equalization parameters. In general, you should start by setting the RxEQ on voice signals until things are equalized for your speaker or headphones and your ears, and adjust the selectivity of the radio using the shift/width/hi-cut/lo-cut controls. And APF for certain weak-signal CW, of course! 73, Lyle KK7P > ...I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have any good settings to recommend? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Mark,
Barry's recommendation is what I did, however, there is one other thing to consider. This topic was discussed a few years ago on the reflector and Lyle advised that it was not recommended to peak up a desired frequency on CW. Only use negative settings for undesired frequencies. The reason was that at narrow DSP width settings like 50Hz or 100Hz the RX EQ is cut off. So if you had a peak setting of 8db in the RX EQ and you narrowed the bandwidth you would hear a sudden decrease in audio volume of 8db as you turned the width knob counter clockwise. Of course that was many firmware revisions ago so this might not still be true. 73, Mike K2MK
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Hi Mark,
Yes, I have been using the settings recommended by Fred Cady - KE7X and think they are great: Set 50 Hz at -16db Set 100 Hz at -16db Set 200 Hz at 0db Set 400 Hz at +6db Set 800 Hz at +6db Set 1600 Hz at 0db Set 2400 Hz at -16db Set 3200 Hz at -16db 73, Bob AA6VB pastormg wrote > Good Evening, > I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have > any good settings to recommend? > Mark Griffin, KB3Z -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/CW-RX-tp7606756p7606759.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I use similar settings - except I follow the advice of Wayne and Lyle against using any boost in the EQ. That leaves the bottom two and top two bands at -16 with the middle four flat. On occasion, I have also set the 1600 Hz band to -16 dB but I set Pitch at 490 Hz which places 1000 - 12000 Hz well down on the filter skirts even if I have widened the DSP to 800 Hz. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/27/2015 12:15 PM, Chortek Bob via Elecraft wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Yes, I have been using the settings recommended by Fred Cady - KE7X and think they are great: > Set 50 Hz at -16db > Set 100 Hz at -16db > > Set 200 Hz at 0db > > Set 400 Hz at +6db > > Set 800 Hz at +6db > > Set 1600 Hz at 0db > Set 2400 Hz at -16db > Set 3200 Hz at -16db > 73, > Bob AA6VB > > pastormg wrote >> Good Evening, >> I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have >> any good settings to recommend? >> Mark Griffin, KB3Z > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/CW-RX-tp7606756p7606759.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It's personal taste, your headphones/speakers, and state of your
hearing. My hearing is pretty bad and my hearing aids don't work under headphones [I never use speakers]. CW: Don't boost anything over 0 dB, RX EQ goes away at very narrow DSP BW settings ... don't remember exactly where. You can reduce ranges above and below your pitch level to remove noise, although I've never been very successful at that. SSB: On advice from Jim, K9YC, I set the profile to approximate the shape of my hearing aids [inverse of my audiogram]. You can get +/- 16 dB, but if you lower the bands where your hearing is good and raise them where it is bad [usually the higher frequencies], you can effectively get about a 30 dB total range. You'll have to run the AF gain higher to compensate for the EQ reductions of course. 30 dB isn't even close to what my hearing aids do, but it does help a lot. Most importantly, follow Jim's advice and GO SLOWLY! I flailed around changing the settings to no avail and finally gave up and left them flat. When I went back and tried again following his advice, I changed one setting at a time and put operating time in between changes, keeping track of what I was doing in my station notebook. After awhile [multiple days], I could tell I was improving the intelligibility of SSB for my ears. Fred K6DGW --Northern California Contest Club --CU in the Cal QSO Party --3-4 Oct 2015 On 8/26/2015 8:39 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > Good Evening, > I have been tinkering around with the RX EQ #'s for CW. Would anyone have any good settings to recommend? > Mark Griffin, KB3Z > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Joe,
so is your setting like this...? Set 50 Hz at -16db Set 100 Hz at -16db Set 200 Hz at 0db Set 400 Hz at 0db Set 800 Hz at 0db Set 1600 Hz at 0db Set 2400 Hz at -16db Set 3200 Hz at -16db Thanks for advise. 73 - Petr, OK1RP
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Dear Fred
Regarding your hearing aids you may be interested in a product that can send LF from K3 directly to your hearing aids. The Danish company Phonak are selling a device under the name of TVLink which plugs into the line out, Scart, headphone or external speaker connector and from it's console sends in stereo to your hearing aids. I have been using this for about 4 years now and it is the best "headphones" I have ever had! The price is about 3000 Danish kroner which is something like 450 US $. Vy de OZ1CCM, Kjeld -----Original Message----- It's personal taste, your headphones/speakers, and state of your hearing. My hearing is pretty bad and my hearing aids don't work under headphones [I never use speakers]. Fred K6DGW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Kjeld,
Yes, my aids are Phonak, I've tried the TVLink [belonged to someone else] and it does work well. I think it's BlueTooth, my two aids talk to each other and change programs at the same time. Sadly, they do not include a boom mic which I need. I also need to shut out surrounding sounds. I really have to focus on the one signal I'm trying to hear. The US Veterans Affairs gives me my aids since my loss is the result of combat service, I'm really very grateful that I get to walk around with $6,000 of microelectronics stuffed into my ears that were free. :-) I'm mainly a CW guy, would be my choice even if I could hear well, so the K3 RX EQ makes SSB "possible" for me. 73, Fred Jensen K6DGW [Dad was Danish, grandmother spoke Danish with me when I was little. Mom's mother conversed in German with me until Mom and Dad found out, it was WW2 and they didn't think that was all that good :-)] On 8/28/2015 2:50 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote: > Dear Fred > > Regarding your hearing aids you may be interested in a product that can send > LF from K3 directly to your hearing aids. > The Danish company Phonak are selling a device under the name of TVLink > which plugs into the line out, Scart, headphone or external speaker > connector and from it's console sends in stereo to your hearing aids. > I have been using this for about 4 years now and it is the best "headphones" > I have ever had! The price is about 3000 Danish kroner which is something > like 450 US $. > Vy de > OZ1CCM, Kjeld > > -----Original Message----- > It's personal taste, your headphones/speakers, and state of your hearing. > My hearing is pretty bad and my hearing aids don't work under headphones [I > never use speakers]. > > Fred K6DGW > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4409/10527 - Release Date: 08/28/15 > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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