Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

[Bob Nielsen-4]

I once operated from a 7th floor hotel room with a W6MMA MP-1 (which
Elecraft used to sell--the paint color on the coil matched my K2, which
increased the mojo).  I placed it inside next to the window and made
several contacts of 1000 - >3000 miles on 20m running 5W (propagation
was much better than it has been recently).

Bob, N7XY


On 4/2/17 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Consider that some (many) hotel rooms have windows that will not open.
> So when faced with that, do you break the window (not recommended) or
> operate from outside the building or operate with a loop placed inside
> the window glass.
> In other words - it all depends.  Be prepared for all possible
> situations.  A mag loop and an end fed antenna with some sort of
> support pole seem to me to be the best combination.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 4/2/2017 9:22 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
>> Tom,
>>   Will be operating QRP with KX3 & Versa-Antenna & the 27ft poles at
>> the Lagoon at the Disney Hotel in Wakikoloa
>> on the Big Island drinking Mai Tai's and working CW
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[Matt Zilmer-3]

I use an OCF dipole and usually throw the longend intoa tree if there is
one nearby.  With no trees about, I'd use a 25 to 41 foot random wire w/
counterpoise on the ground.  Once, I had to ask permission to "cast" the
OCF's long end over a gas station sign in Pu'unene, and got a thumbs up
[stuck there with "talk story" from XYL's relatives].  Sometimes, you
have to get creative, and sometimes, beg for a high spot.  In tourist
QTHs, sometimes your eccentric request will get a good response -
tourists are odd ducks for the locals, anywhere.

Wire antennas work a lot better than verticals, esp. portable. Slopers
are fine too.  Anything you can tune with your ATU.

Best HI portable ops I ever experienced were near Ka'anapali, using a
random wire dangled from a rock cliff near the Sheraton Black Rock and
pulled down to the _veryrocky_ beach nearby.  It took a while to set up,
but didn't have to ask for permission either. Beaches in HI are all
public access, theoretically. You may be able to use that to your advantage.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 4/2/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
>
> WB6DJI
>
>
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Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
[Shiraz]

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[Igor Sokolov-2]

As far as fiberglass poles are please check here:

http://www.dx-wire.de/index.php?seo_c=lng%2Fen%2F&seo=fiberglass-poles

73, Igor UA9CDC


03.04.2017 9:03, Matt Zilmer пишет:

> I use an OCF dipole and usually throw the longend intoa tree if there
> is one nearby.  With no trees about, I'd use a 25 to 41 foot random
> wire w/ counterpoise on the ground.  Once, I had to ask permission to
> "cast" the OCF's long end over a gas station sign in Pu'unene, and got
> a thumbs up [stuck there with "talk story" from XYL's relatives].  
> Sometimes, you have to get creative, and sometimes, beg for a high
> spot.  In tourist QTHs, sometimes your eccentric request will get a
> good response - tourists are odd ducks for the locals, anywhere.
>
> Wire antennas work a lot better than verticals, esp. portable. Slopers
> are fine too.  Anything you can tune with your ATU.
>
> Best HI portable ops I ever experienced were near Ka'anapali, using a
> random wire dangled from a rock cliff near the Sheraton Black Rock and
> pulled down to the _veryrocky_ beach nearby.  It took a while to set
> up, but didn't have to ask for permission either. Beaches in HI are
> all public access, theoretically. You may be able to use that to your
> advantage.
>
> 73,
>
> matt W6NIA
>
>
> On 4/2/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
>> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>>
>>
>> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
>> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
>> luggage.
>>
>>
>> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>>
>>
>> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
>> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
>> it's length
>> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>>
>>
>> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when
>> collapsed
>> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
>> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
>> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> WB6DJI
>>
>>
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[Doug Turnbull]

Dear OMs and YLs,
     The problem with poles is that even at four feet they are cumbersome to
take on planes.    They also are obtrusive when installed.   The AlexLoop or
magnetic loop antenna on the other hand does not even require a pole and is
unobtrusive.   It can be used inside a frame or brick building though is not
so good in a steel structure though if close to a big window might do some
good and certainly is happy on a balcony.  If you have a roof garden that is
nice for operating outside your room.  For travel the AlexLoop is very hard
to beat.

      Now if staying with my brother I look for my end fed dipole and run it
about twelve to fifteen feet above ground and yes it will outperform the
AlexLoop.   Still you will make QSOs and plenty of them with the AlexLoop
running 5 Watts and using CW.   I can not testify as to effectiveness with
SSB.

      If you want a short four foot long pole for the AlexLoop and this is
not necessary then use a broom stick possibly whittled down at one end.
You can also take some fibreglass tube cut it into three sixteen foot length
and use two wooden dowels to join the three sections.   The dowels are
whittled down for a nice snug fit.

       When operating from a hotel it is best to be unobtrusive. That is for
certain.   It is all good fun.

                  73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of rich
hurd WC3T
Sent: 02 April 2017 23:42
To: Michael Aust; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and
Antenna Pole for KX3

A Shakespeare WonderPole. 20' extended,
collapses to 4'.

$21 at Walmart.


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:25 PM Michael Aust <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
>
> WB6DJI
>
>
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73 (or 72 for the QRP folks),
Rich Hurd / WC3T
Northampton County RACES
EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988  Grid: *FN20is*
40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W
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[Bill Steffey NY9H]

for a trip to  F & OE   I had two hanks of wire and a par balun.....
when we got to a highrise '3 day rental up 14 floors, I needed to get
the long wires set off from the bldg.
The only thing I found was a broom pole...strapped to another broom
pole  hanging out on a shutter

story " Four Pound DXpedition"  and pictures .. on page 8

worked stateside ( N3TIR on a K3 another elecraft list member )  & others...

bill

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