Com port problem
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Hi Gang
I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. Any ideas?? Fred N9TA K2# 4502 PS: I have tried switching com port numbers in windows XP. I have Windows XP Media Center Edition. And I am using Logic 7.0 for logging and Ham Radio Deluxe for fun. Neither Logic or HRD will communicate with the K2 through the new USB to Serial gizmo. The new usb to serial gizmo claims to work with durn near anything and lists "Built in 16550 UART with 16 byte FIFO buffers"...whatever in the heck all that might mean. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not all USB convertors are equal. Over the HRD website you will see
litany's of problems regarding them along with a recommended list of compliant convertors. Unfortunately it sounds like the SIIG is one of those that don't do their job properly. The reason it works with the 990 is their levels are probably not as strict as the good RS232 that the K2 has. Check out the interfacing section for this information at http://forums.ham-radio.ch -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Bennett Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:51 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Com port problem Hi Gang I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. Any ideas?? Fred N9TA K2# 4502 PS: I have tried switching com port numbers in windows XP. I have Windows XP Media Center Edition. And I am using Logic 7.0 for logging and Ham Radio Deluxe for fun. Neither Logic or HRD will communicate with the K2 through the new USB to Serial gizmo. The new usb to serial gizmo claims to work with durn near anything and lists "Built in 16550 UART with 16 byte FIFO buffers"...whatever in the heck all that might mean. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I would not advise using any USB serial adapter with the KIO2. The KIO2
output is not a standard serial port. There is an AUXBUS output on one of the pins. I seem to recall that a few people have damaged their K2s by using "standard" serial cables that had something else connected to this pin. Do you know what is connected to this pin on your USB adapter? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 #392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Reply via list or www.g4ilo.com/email.html "Fred Bennett" wrote: Hi Gang I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred,
Since the K2 works with one adapter but not another, look at the setup info on both adapters - are the parameters similar? what are the differences? Keep asking yourself questions like that until you either have it working or decide to make that 3 hour round trip. The K2 connects only the data transmit and receive lines, no hardware handshaking is implemented, and the data rate is at 4800 baud. Nothing fancy, but the computer software settings must be set to comply with the K2 setup. 73, Don W3FPR > -----Original Message----- > > I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB > to 2 port > serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial > converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial > converter > won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried > switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice > versa). During > all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does > not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial > pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a > solution to this, > but > I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up > and > take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:59 AM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm using the com cable that I made when I constructed the KIO2 and
I left out ALL but the standard RS232 connections when I made the cable (as per the instructions). I returned the usb-to-serial box this morning....so the immediate problem is solved. With a little research I've found that the "Keyspan" brand of 4 port usb-to-serial gizmos seem to win ham cudos. Seeing as they cost about $130 I think I'll ask Santa for that one. I wonder when ham manufacturers will drop the durn RS232 ports and pick up USB. It seems that it is WAY past the time when this should have happened!! I wonder if ELECRAFT might decide to lead the pack with a new option....say KUSB2?? The problem with that is Elecraft has designed in the need for RS232 by using the same cable for other modules such as the QRO tuner. 73....de....Fred N9TA ____________________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:20 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Com port problem I would not advise using any USB serial adapter with the KIO2. The KIO2 output is not a standard serial port. There is an AUXBUS output on one of the pins. I seem to recall that a few people have damaged their K2s by using "standard" serial cables that had something else connected to this pin. Do you know what is connected to this pin on your USB adapter? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 #392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Reply via list or www.g4ilo.com/email.html "Fred Bennett" wrote: Hi Gang I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Saturday 02 December 2006 17:51, Fred Bennett wrote:
> I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port > > serial converter made by SIIG. I bought a VSCOMM PCI dual serial card for a year old compaq computer that had no serial ports. I had to find a supplier on the Internet because stores don't stock them. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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i've been successful with used usb to serial edgeports.... very
expensive new,,,, but very inexpensive on the "bay"site....\ bill _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred, that is way too much money for that adapter. I am getting the Keyspan USB to Serial adapters at Fry's for 39 bucks. Maybe the one you are looking at is a multi port version or something. Check out Fry's online.
I am using two of the adapters here and they work like a champ. I do not have the K2 plugged in to one, but I don't see any reason why it wont work. It imulates a standard serial port so you should be good to go. Stan W5EWA Fred Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote: I'm using the com cable that I made when I constructed the KIO2 and I left out ALL but the standard RS232 connections when I made the cable (as per the instructions). I returned the usb-to-serial box this morning....so the immediate problem is solved. With a little research I've found that the "Keyspan" brand of 4 port usb-to-serial gizmos seem to win ham cudos. Seeing as they cost about $130 I think I'll ask Santa for that one. I wonder when ham manufacturers will drop the durn RS232 ports and pick up USB. It seems that it is WAY past the time when this should have happened!! I wonder if ELECRAFT might decide to lead the pack with a new option....say KUSB2?? The problem with that is Elecraft has designed in the need for RS232 by using the same cable for other modules such as the QRO tuner. 73....de....Fred N9TA ____________________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:20 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Com port problem I would not advise using any USB serial adapter with the KIO2. The KIO2 output is not a standard serial port. There is an AUXBUS output on one of the pins. I seem to recall that a few people have damaged their K2s by using "standard" serial cables that had something else connected to this pin. Do you know what is connected to this pin on your USB adapter? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 #392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Reply via list or www.g4ilo.com/email.html "Fred Bennett" wrote: Hi Gang I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yes, the model I mentioned is a 4 Port device.
_____ From: Stan Rife [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:38 PM To: Fred Bennett; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Com port problem Fred, that is way too much money for that adapter. I am getting the Keyspan USB to Serial adapters at Fry's for 39 bucks. Maybe the one you are looking at is a multi port version or something. Check out Fry's online. I am using two of the adapters here and they work like a champ. I do not have the K2 plugged in to one, but I don't see any reason why it wont work. It imulates a standard serial port so you should be good to go. Stan W5EWA Fred Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote: I'm using the com cable that I made when I constructed the KIO2 and I left out ALL but the standard RS232 connections when I made the cable (as per the instructions). I returned the usb-to-serial box this morning....so the immediate problem is solved. With a little research I've found that the "Keyspan" brand of 4 port usb-to-serial gizmos seem to win ham cudos. Seeing as they cost about $130 I think I'll ask Santa for that one. I wonder when ham manufacturers will drop the durn RS232 ports and pick up USB. It seems that it is WAY past the time when this should have happened!! I wonder if ELECRAFT might decide to lead the pack with a new option....say KUSB2?? The problem with that is Elecraft has designed in the need for RS232 by using the same cable for other modules such as the QRO tuner. 73....de....Fred N9TA ____________________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:20 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Com port problem I would not advise using any USB serial adapter with the KIO2. The KIO2 output is not a standard serial port. There is an AUXBUS output on one of the pins. I seem to recall that a few people have damaged their K2s by using "standard" serial cables that had something else connected to this pin. Do you know what is connected to this pin on your USB adapter? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 #392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Reply via list or www.g4ilo.com/email.html "Fred Bennett" wrote: Hi Gang I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 port serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial converter won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). During all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to this, but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing up and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round trip. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> i've been successful with used usb to serial edgeports.... very expensive > new,,,, > but very inexpensive on the "bay"site....\ Some brand names might be of help. Thom www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thom,
Edgeport is the brand name. I have a good 4 port unit. 73, Don W3FPR > -----Original Message----- > On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > > i've been successful with used usb to serial edgeports.... > very expensive > > new,,,, > > but very inexpensive on the "bay"site....\ > > Some brand names might be of help. > > Thom > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:39 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred;
I have been using a Zonet model ZUC3100 for over a year with my K2 and both a Compaq laptop and desktop with no problems. Used it in the 160M contest all weekend with N1MM logger. It's only a 1-port but I bought mine from Newegg.com for $9.99+p&h. Russ, N3CO K1 2136 K2 4016 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Bennett" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Com port problem > > I'm using the com cable that I made when I constructed the KIO2 and > I left out ALL but the standard RS232 connections when I made the cable > (as per the instructions). > I returned the usb-to-serial box this morning....so the immediate > problem is solved. With a little research I've found that the "Keyspan" > brand of 4 port usb-to-serial gizmos seem to win ham cudos. Seeing as > they cost about $130 I think I'll ask Santa for that one. > > I wonder when ham manufacturers will drop the durn RS232 ports and > pick up USB. It seems that it is WAY past the time when this should have > happened!! I wonder if ELECRAFT might decide to lead the pack with a new > option....say KUSB2?? The problem with that is Elecraft has designed > in the need for RS232 by using the same cable for other modules such as > the QRO tuner. > > 73....de....Fred N9TA > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:20 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Com port problem > > I would not advise using any USB serial adapter with the KIO2. The KIO2 > output is not a standard serial port. There is an AUXBUS output on one of > the pins. I seem to recall that a few people have damaged their K2s by > using "standard" serial cables that had something else connected to this > pin. Do you know what is connected to this pin on your USB adapter? > -- > Julian, G4ILO K2 #392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Reply via list or www.g4ilo.com/email.html > > "Fred Bennett" wrote: > Hi Gang > I just came back from the local electronics superstore with a USB to 2 > port > serial converter made by SIIG. My aim was to get rid of the usb to serial > converter pigtails cluttering up the place. The new usb-to-serial > converter > won't work with the K2. It works fine with my FT-990. And I have tried > switching the ports (IE port1 to 990, port 2 to K2 and vice versa). > During > all tests the FT-990 communicates fine with the computer but the K2 does > not. The K2 seems to work fine when plugged back into the USB-to-serial > pigtail from a different manufacturer. There may not be a solution to > this, > but I thought I'd give the brain-trust here a crack before I box the thing > up > and take it back to the electronics superstore...that is a 3 hour round > trip. > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/567 - Release Date: 12/4/2006 > 7:18 AM > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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