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I am amazed at the length of conversation on this topic. IN fact an
internal 6m preamp would be counterproductive to my needs. I will be adding a 1100w solid state 6m amplifier and would have to add two coax relays to bypass it in receive if the preamp were internal. Connecting the 6m preamp in the existing configuration I run the antenna input to a single 1200w rated coax relay at the output of the transmit power amp: http://www.kl7uw.com/6M-EME-LAYOUT.jpg Here is how my non-Elecraft preamp is installed on my K3/10: http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-6mPreamp.jpg my six meter webpage: http://www.kl7uw.com/6m.htm 73, Ed - KL7UW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I am not surprised. Rather the opposite.
I am glad to see there are a wide diversity of views on what folks want as this keeps the ideas flowing and Eric and Wayne evaluate them with a view to making as many of us happy customers as possible I would guess. I am firmly in the camp of no more external boxes for pre-amps but I readily accept this is not a majority view or desire. 73 On 27 May 2013 16:23, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote: > I am amazed at the length of conversation on this topic. IN fact an > internal 6m preamp would be counterproductive to my needs. I will be > adding a 1100w solid state 6m amplifier and would have to add two coax > relays to bypass it in receive if the preamp were internal. Connecting the > 6m preamp in the existing configuration I run the antenna input to a single > 1200w rated coax relay at the output of the transmit power amp: > http://www.kl7uw.com/6M-EME-**LAYOUT.jpg<http://www.kl7uw.com/6M-EME-LAYOUT.jpg> > > Here is how my non-Elecraft preamp is installed on my K3/10: > http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-**6mPreamp.jpg<http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-6mPreamp.jpg> > > my six meter webpage: > http://www.kl7uw.com/6m.htm > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > ______________________________**______________________________**__ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:[hidden email].**net <[hidden email]> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You could simply run your coax from the relay after the amplifier directly to the rx-in
jack. Surely an internal preamp would be located between this jack and the rest of the receiver. You just wouldn't need to use the rx-out jack. Am I am missing something here? On 5/26/2013 11:23 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I am amazed at the length of conversation on this topic. IN fact an internal 6m preamp > would be counterproductive to my needs. I will be adding a 1100w solid state 6m > amplifier and would have to add two coax relays to bypass it in receive if the preamp > were internal. Connecting the 6m preamp in the existing configuration I run the antenna > input to a single 1200w rated coax relay at the output of the transmit power amp: > http://www.kl7uw.com/6M-EME-LAYOUT.jpg > > Here is how my non-Elecraft preamp is installed on my K3/10: > http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-6mPreamp.jpg > > my six meter webpage: > http://www.kl7uw.com/6m.htm > > 73, Ed - KL7UW -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You are assuming the internal K3 preamp is adequate on 6m in the
K3. The reason for the PR6 is that the internal preamp is not adequate for very weak signals (I intend to do 6m eme and ms). Of course if you mean the PR6 is installed internal to the K3 then I suppose it would work. The current configuration is "bolt on" ready and no need for an internal installation of the PR6 (or my preamp). 73, Ed - KL7UW ------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:01:37 -0700 From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You could simply run your coax from the relay after the amplifier directly to the rx-in jack. Surely an internal preamp would be located between this jack and the rest of the receiver. You just wouldn't need to use the rx-out jack. Am I am missing something here? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I think an internal preamp for the highest bands (say 15/12/10/6 m) is a cool idea. I'll take a look at that (no promises, yet).
Like other K3 options it would have to be compatible with all existing K3s, which suggests putting it on the KXV3 module as a user-installable daughter board (etc.). Meanwhile there's the PR6, which provides truly excellent sensitivity. Wayne N6KR On May 28, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote: > You are assuming the internal K3 preamp is adequate on 6m in the K3. The reason for the PR6 is that the internal preamp is not adequate for very weak signals (I intend to do 6m eme and ms). Of course if you mean the PR6 is installed internal to the K3 then I suppose it would work. > > The current configuration is "bolt on" ready and no need for an internal installation of the PR6 (or my preamp). ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Excellent! It also relieves the clutter at the back of the K3 and makes
installing a preamp for 160/80 receive antennas cleaner. It would need to be programmable variable gain to accommodate differing noise floors on the different bands. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 5/28/2013 07:46, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I think an internal preamp for the highest bands (say 15/12/10/6 m) is a cool idea. I'll take a look at that (no promises, yet). > > Like other K3 options it would have to be compatible with all existing K3s, which suggests putting it on the KXV3 module as a user-installable daughter board (etc.). Meanwhile there's the PR6, which provides truly excellent sensitivity. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On May 28, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> You are assuming the internal K3 preamp is adequate on 6m in the K3. The reason for the PR6 is that the internal preamp is not adequate for very weak signals (I intend to do 6m eme and ms). Of course if you mean the PR6 is installed internal to the K3 then I suppose it would work. >> >> The current configuration is "bolt on" ready and no need for an internal installation of the PR6 (or my preamp). > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5861 - Release Date: 05/27/13 > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5861 - Release Date: 05/27/13 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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We are close to releasing the PR6-10. (Same case as the PR-10.)
Assembled PCBs are in-house and we need to test them and release the manual. I'll post here when its ready for taking orders. Eric elecraft.com On 5/26/2013 3:46 AM, Greg Wilson wrote: > I hope Eric and Wayne are reading this one, Joe! > 73, Greg-N4CC > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> > To: "Gary Gregory" <[hidden email]> > Cc: "elecraft List" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp > > >> >> I don't know about that ... the incremental cost for the KXV3A >> vs. KXV3 was minimal. The firmware changes to support two more >> control lines should be minimal. >> >> As far as an internal preamp - it should not be significantly more >> complex than the PR6. With switching on a "KVX3B", an internal >> preamp would not need the bypass relays so they could be used for >> band switching if needed. However, if the user did not want a >> 10/12 preamp, it would not be a stretch to use the existing PR6 >> internally for six meters only. >> >> One would think it relatively straightforward to switch two input >> tuning/matching networks in a PR6 style preamp or an alternate, >> broadband design could be used to completely avoid the need for >> band switching. With a little care in the design and programming, >> a higher gain/lower nf preamp could be substituted (electronically) >> for the standard preamp or the controls could be arranged to cycle >> through "none"/"norm"/"opt". >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 5/25/2013 10:48 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> Ah Joe, >>> >>> Thankyou for resurrecting my thought that it IS possible. The issue >>> will >>> most likely be a lack of quantity that would be sold versus the cost to >>> manufacture, >>> >>> I will live in hope...:-) >>> >>> thanks for the info Joe, much appreciated. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> On 26 May 2013 12:45, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> let's not let that technical inconvenience reduce in any >>>>> way my hope for a cure to my sometimes demented desires....:-) >>>> >>>> I'm not saying it isn't possible ... takes one additional relay >>>> and two connectors. There are even couple unused control lines >>>> on the KXV3A that could be used to control the added relay and >>>> switch bands (10/12 and 6 M) if necessary. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> ... Joe, W4TV >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/25/2013 10:13 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>> >>>>> Gee...Shhhhh....let's not let that technical inconvenience reduce >>>>> in any >>>>> way my hope for a cure to my sometimes demented desires....:-) >>>>> >>>>> Of course you are quite correct Joe. Point taken mate. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>>> On 26 May 2013 12:06, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So, I will continue to want an internal pre-amp and it does >>>>>> not need >>>>>> >>>>>>> to be for 6M as I don't operate there either. This is MY choice and >>>>>>> does not hold sway with the masses but it is my choice after all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree that an internal preamp (or premps) would be ideal. >>>>>> However, >>>>>> in addition to the preamp(s) Elecraft would need to provide >>>>>> *another* >>>>>> design for the KXV3A - one that switches the RX ANT IN/OUT >>>>>> connections >>>>>> to internal jacks - as neither the original KXV3 or current KXV3A >>>>>> have >>>>>> that capability. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> >>>>>> ... Joe, W4TV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/25/2013 9:24 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't wish to flog a dead horse any further, however, choice is >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> it seems everyone on this list is after. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what if a K3 needs to NOT have a 2M transverter to fit a combo >>>>>>> pre-amp?....there are many K3's in the world not fitted with 2M. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is a >>>>>>> choice made by the original owner I guess which is what it is, a >>>>>>> choice. I >>>>>>> fully appreciate everyone's point of view, but I would hazard a >>>>>>> guess I >>>>>>> am >>>>>>> not alone in wanting an internal unit as a CHOICE, not at the >>>>>>> expense of >>>>>>> taking away other folks right to choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wayne has stated Elecraft's case and that is there is not enough >>>>>>> room >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> his statement is qualified by the mention of the 2M option which >>>>>>> is a >>>>>>> customer choice right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I will continue to want an internal pre-amp and it does not >>>>>>> need to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> for 6M as I don't operate there either. This is MY choice and >>>>>>> does not >>>>>>> hold >>>>>>> sway with the masses but it is my choice after all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You mention remote install, fine, but again it is still another >>>>>>> cable >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> still yet another box to cart around. Setup on a table (standard >>>>>>> picnic >>>>>>> size) the depth of the table means you need to have the K-Line >>>>>>> right on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> rear edge and the 6M pre-amp protrudes far enough back that if >>>>>>> you are >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> against a barrier of some sort, the cables push the K-Line >>>>>>> forward and >>>>>>> reduce the work space area such that little room is left to >>>>>>> operate in a >>>>>>> comfortable manner. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could pontificate forever on the drawbacks when operating >>>>>>> portable >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> am probably not a member of the right choir. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe an OEM will come up with a 'plug-in' internal 10M pre-amp >>>>>>> designed >>>>>>> for a K3.....now that would solve everything for me and I >>>>>>> wouldn't have >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> plead my case....:-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's all about choice folks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 May 2013 10:32, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The original poster mentioned "those of us who operate >>>>>>> portable". >>>>>>> Running >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cables to the next room does not make that any simpler. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wunder >>>>>>>> K6WRU >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 25, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This sounds like a lack of creative thinking. How about >>>>>>>> using two 90 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> degree >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BNC elbows on the back of the radio and a couple of BNC >>>>>>>> jumpers. You >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> put the preamp anywhere... even in the next room is that is your >>>>>>>>> fancy. >>>>>>>>> Also, you might try one of the 50+ preamps that are already >>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> variety of companies with ultra-low noise figures. I'm not >>>>>>>> sure I >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> preamp to take up the space of my existing 2 meter module. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Owner - Operator >>>>>>>>> Big Signal Ranch >>>>>>>>> Staunton, Illinois >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> email: [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>> [hidden email].****net<elecraft-bounces@mailman.* >>>>>>>>> *qth.net <[hidden email]>> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces@**mai**lman.qth.net >>>>>>>>> <http://mailman.qth.net> >>>>>>>>> <elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net<[hidden email]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jeff Cochrane >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:03 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Agreed Gary, >>>>>>>>> I too would be interested in an internal 10M pre-amp (or an >>>>>>>>> internal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> combo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6-10M pre-amp). >>>>>>>>> I already have the PR6 but like you say it (in stock form) >>>>>>>>> protrudes >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> out behind the rig that it almost impossible to use for >>>>>>>> portable work. >>>>>>>>> Mounting it internally is the way to go and I reckon a combo >>>>>>>>> pre-amp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sit nicely where the internal 2M transverter normally goes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary Gregory-2 wrote >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well I do hope there will be a version for 10M perhaps that >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>> within the K3. Much as it would be nice to have I am not >>>>>>>>>> going to buy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> boxes needing to be plugged in, cabled or whatever. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Whilst I understand some folks have space available and can >>>>>>>>>> wire in >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> boxes as are available, those of us who operate portable tire >>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> quickly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of sorting cables, boxes and the resultant tangled leads. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess I will have to wait and see what is produced but another >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> external >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> box such as the 6M pre-amp which protrudes too far and can >>>>>>>> easily be >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> knocked around is a non starter for me no matter that I could >>>>>>>>>> use it, >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> what it is, a box too far. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> *Gary - VK1ZZ >>>>>>>>>> Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ >>>>>>>>>> Motorhome Portable >>>>>>>>>> The Shack* >>>>>>>>>> *Elecraft K3 >>>>>>>>>> P3 Panadapter >>>>>>>>>> KPA500FT >>>>>>>>>> KAT500FT** >>>>>>>>>> KX3-K >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________****____________________________** >>>>>>>>>> __**__ >>>>>>>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Home: >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/****mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>>>>>>>> <http**://mailman.qth.net/mailman/**listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Help: >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.****htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm> >>>>>>>>>> <http://mailman.qth.net/**mmfaq.htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Post: mailto: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Elecraft@.qth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>>>>>>> Please help support this email list: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>> Jeff Cochrane - 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