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I realize this subject has come up several times in the past; I've been through the archives. However, computer equipment changes all the time. I am in the market for a new "quiet" monitor for the station. Are there monitors people would happily recommend? Conversely, are there brands/models you would keep away from? Or even a type of monitor you would not recommend for a shack?

Thanks and 73, Bob, KA2TQV

KX3, KXPA100, PX3
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NJ8M
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075PMWCKS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These
are great monitors. We use them in the hospital. RF pretty much immune. No
RFI generation and great for reading and Logging programs. Plus, They come
with 3 sets of cables. HDMI, VGA, Display port. I have 2 of these mounted
on this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009S750LA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 .
Then I took 2 band clamps to the pole and mounted this:
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-Desktop-i5-6500T-Windows/dp/B07QGLC4FW/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_img_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BPF1Q6NJ43K17FSHV78W
. It has 6 usb ports, 3 type 2 and 3 type 3. More than enough for an SO2R
set up. 2 for radios, 1 for controller, 2 for separate keyboards and 1 for
mouse. No Usb break out boxes. Clean Setup. The Lenovo is hospital approved
for high rf environments. It is totally a metal box and works great for
logging, web streaming/browsing and light gaming, Guild Wars, EQ, WoW. It
is my set up.

Best of luck in your choices.

73
Morgan NJ8M



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> I realize this subject has come up several times in the past; I've been
> through the archives. However, computer equipment changes all the time. I
> am in the market for a new "quiet" monitor for the station. Are there
> monitors people would happily recommend? Conversely, are there
> brands/models you would keep away from? Or even a type of monitor you would
> not recommend for a shack?
>
> Thanks and 73, Bob, KA2TQV
>
> KX3, KXPA100, PX3
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Rick Bates, NK7I
I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers) and spread
things out and being a smart TV, it has other features for the shack but
I added a Dish Joey too.

I've been using full QRO, all bands, no issues in receiving, no
artifacts on the TV and it's cheaper than a monitor plus it has speakers
so the desk has less on it.

The new shack is still coming together, but it's looking better each
upgrade.  (I'd send a pic but I don't think qth.net allows that, so I'll
update my QRZ page within a day or two.)

73,
Rick NK7I

On 6/13/2020 7:12 AM, Morgan Bailey wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075PMWCKS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> These
> are great monitors. We use them in the hospital. RF pretty much immune. No
> RFI generation and great for reading and Logging programs. Plus, They come
> with 3 sets of cables. HDMI, VGA, Display port. I have 2 of these mounted
> on this:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009S750LA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>   .
> Then I took 2 band clamps to the pole and mounted this:
> https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-Desktop-i5-6500T-Windows/dp/B07QGLC4FW/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_img_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BPF1Q6NJ43K17FSHV78W
> . It has 6 usb ports, 3 type 2 and 3 type 3. More than enough for an SO2R
> set up. 2 for radios, 1 for controller, 2 for separate keyboards and 1 for
> mouse. No Usb break out boxes. Clean Setup. The Lenovo is hospital approved
> for high rf environments. It is totally a metal box and works great for
> logging, web streaming/browsing and light gaming, Guild Wars, EQ, WoW. It
> is my set up.
>
> Best of luck in your choices.
>
> 73
> Morgan NJ8M
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:06 AM krug261--- via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I realize this subject has come up several times in the past; I've been
>> through the archives. However, computer equipment changes all the time. I
>> am in the market for a new "quiet" monitor for the station. Are there
>> monitors people would happily recommend? Conversely, are there
>> brands/models you would keep away from? Or even a type of monitor you would
>> not recommend for a shack?
>>
>> Thanks and 73, Bob, KA2TQV
>>
>> KX3, KXPA100, PX3
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:03 AM Rick Bates, NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
> behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
> even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers)


I also installed a slightly smaller (43") LG 4K monitor from Costco on the
wall. No EMC issues I can detect.

See my qrz.com page, part way down. Lots of room for Ham Radio applications.

73,

Mark
W7MLG
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

Mark Goldberg
The noise shown on the spectrum is not from the monitor. No change in or
off.

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:54 AM Mark Goldberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:03 AM Rick Bates, NK7I <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
>> behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
>> even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers)
>
>
> I also installed a slightly smaller (43") LG 4K monitor from Costco on the
> wall. No EMC issues I can detect.
>
> See my qrz.com page, part way down. Lots of room for Ham Radio
> applications.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
> W7MLG
>
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

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I have a portable monitor made by AOC.  The stand folds into the back for convenient storage and transport.  Connects to computer via USB.  Very convenient and good for tight spaces.

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 8:03 AM Rick Bates, NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
> behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
> even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers)


I also installed a slightly smaller (43") LG 4K monitor from Costco on the wall. No EMC issues I can detect.

See my qrz.com page, part way down. Lots of room for Ham Radio applications.

73,

Mark
W7MLG
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

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On 6/13/2020 8:54 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

>> I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
>> behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
>> even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers)
>
> I also installed a slightly smaller (43") LG 4K monitor from Costco on the
> wall. No EMC issues I can detect.

I recently had to replace my 6-year old failed monitor and I settled on
a 27" LG HD monitor  (the largest size that could fit on the desk)
because I didn't need 4K.  $159 at Costco.  It was the next-to-last on
the shelf.  The guy there said that large screen monitors were going
very fast because  the work-at-home folks were realizing that a 15"
laptop screen just doesn't cut it for all-day use.  No EMI that I can
detect by on-off testing (there's plenty from other nearby sources).

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

Jim Brown-10
On 6/13/2020 9:13 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
> No EMI that I can
> detect by on-off testing (there's plenty from other nearby sources).

Phil,

Did you unplug the  wall wart (or the monitor) from the wall? That PSU,
whether external or built into the monitor, usually a major noise source.

ALWAYS, when offering (or evaluating) advice about whether some device
is noisy, consider the possibility that the noise it produces is covered
by noise from other sources in your home and in your neighbors's homes.
Also consider proximity to ANTENNAS, not to the shack.

I work a lot of FT8 on 160M to work DX and on 6M to work new grids. The
signal report is the signal to noise ratio. I run legal limit to very
good antennas on both bands, and I regularly receive reports that are at
least 10 dB worse than I give, telling me that most hams have horrendous
noise levels.

73, Jim K9YC
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Phil Kane-2
On 6/13/2020 11:20 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
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> Did you unplug the  wall wart (or the monitor) from the wall? That PSU,
> whether external or built into the monitor, usually a major noise source.

In a two-word answer from an experienced RFI chaser --  of course!   :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: Computer Monitor Recommendations

Lyn WØLEN
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The main computer in my shack is an HP Z800 Dual Xeon workstation with 2
Nvidia Quadra cards.  Originally I had it set up with 2 HP ZR2440W 24"
screens at keyboard level, and 1 Viewsonic 28" screen above (on a stand).
The Viewsonic died a couple years ago, and I replaced it with an LG 49" TV
(4K UHD - model UJ6300).  I split the 49" up into 4 logical 2k 24" windows,
so I now have the equivalent of 6 x 24" screens.  I can use it for multiple
purposes, including watching sports on the 49" screen (remember the days
when we had sports??).

The only issue I have is that one (just one ...) of the 2 HP ZR2440W
radiates a spike on 17 meters.  Not too serious, but rather weird.

On my 2 other computers, I am using 24" screens from "V7" a house brand of
Ingram-Micro.  No problems with either of them.

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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On 6/13/2020 8:54 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

>> I went with a 50" 4K TV (LG from Costco ~US$300) mounted to the wall
>> behind the operating desk.  If your computer can manage 4K video (or
>> even HD), LOADS of space to see (don't need my readers)
>
> I also installed a slightly smaller (43") LG 4K monitor from Costco on the
> wall. No EMC issues I can detect.

I recently had to replace my 6-year old failed monitor and I settled on
a 27" LG HD monitor  (the largest size that could fit on the desk)
because I didn't need 4K.  $159 at Costco.  It was the next-to-last on
the shelf.  The guy there said that large screen monitors were going
very fast because  the work-at-home folks were realizing that a 15"
laptop screen just doesn't cut it for all-day use.  No EMI that I can
detect by on-off testing (there's plenty from other nearby sources).

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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John K9UWA-2
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THANK YOU K9YC Jim

I have read all the monitor solutions offered since the OP posted his question
yesterday.
#1 I never met a monitor yet that didn't emit RFI and at least 90% of the noise was
from the no surprise here Switching Power Supply. That said I purchase two LG  
LCD monitors 2 years ago that have EXTERNAL WALL WART supplies. No I
didn't want to go inside a brand new monitor to try curing the SMPS noise. I can
replace a Wall Wart 19 volts 2 amps. Nice Lambda regulated power supply. I
think it weighs around 20 pounds. I added #31 mix cores to the AC cord on the
Lambda supply plus #31 mix cores on the 19v to each Monitor.

The Test?  Transistor scanning radio that scans from LW up through VHF. While
listening to the monitor and yes I can hear it a couple inches from the LCD screen
but no farther than that. And Zero RF noise when listening to the DC line to the
monitors or the AC line to the Lambda 0 to 20v supply.
73
John k9uwa


> > No EMI that I can
> > detect by on-off testing (there's plenty from other nearby sources).

>
> Did you unplug the  wall wart (or the monitor) from the wall? That PSU,
> whether external or built into the monitor, usually a major noise source.
>
> ALWAYS, when offering (or evaluating) advice about whether some device
> is noisy, consider the possibility that the noise it produces is covered
> by noise from other sources in your home and in your neighbors's homes.
> Also consider proximity to ANTENNAS, not to the shack.
>
> I work a lot of FT8 on 160M to work DX and on 6M to work new grids. The
> signal report is the signal to noise ratio. I run legal limit to very
> good antennas on both bands, and I regularly receive reports that are at
> least 10 dB worse than I give, telling me that most hams have horrendous
> noise levels.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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