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Thomas Schaefer

Deleting OT

While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.

I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.

Regards,

Tom NY4I
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: Deleting OT

It isn’t just this list, of course. It’s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and … And every digest.

I’ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for you. And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early on. :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>
> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>
> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>
> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom NY4I

Thomas Schaefer

Re: Deleting OT

Thanks.

To avoid creating too many posts (and have this turn into a me-too off topic post), if people respond to me directly IF THEY KNOW HOW to FILTER a DIGEST, I will summarize and send it back to the list.

Regards,

Tom NY4I

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It isn’t just this list, of course. It’s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and … And every digest.
>
> I’ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for you. And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early on. :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net <http://qth.net/> list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>
>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>
>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>
>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom NY4I
>

Don Wilhelm

Re: Deleting OT

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Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you
are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your
smartphone or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the
digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place
anything with "OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:

> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>
> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>
> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>
> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>

Thomas Schaefer

Re: Deleting Off topic email

Thanks for the useful information Don. I changed over to non-digest.

I use a Mac so I already have all radio list email go into a Smart Folder. I created a rule to automatically delete any email that has OT in the subject (ironically, this one). Hopefully we can ask people to give some serious thought to what they write and if they must post something off-topic, to include OT in the subject. Again, just a polite request—I’m not telling people what to post.

I believe that takes care of this one so thank you all for your consideration and the bandwidth.

<SNARK>We can now go back to discussing how FT8 cannot be used at Field Day (with my K3 to make it tangentially on topic) or how my P3 makes a better pan adapter than back in the day when I used an Kenwood SM-220 (and the resulting 30 post thread about how good the Kenwood TS-820 line was). </SNARK>

Regards,

Tom NY4I

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>
> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
> Subscribe to individual emails.
> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>
> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>
> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.

Jim Brown-10

Re: Deleting OT

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On 6/16/2018 8:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.

I subscribe to almost two dozen email reflectors. I used digest mode
once many years ago when I went away on vacation, and that was the
reason I stopped. A far better solution is good email software that can
be set up to sort incoming email into mailboxes that you can then
quickly scroll through. I use Thunderbird.

> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I know there are utilities to do this. Others will tell you about them.

73, Jim K9YC

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John Hiatt

Re: Deleting OT

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There is a separate email list for Elecraft Sales. It is how the monthly newsletters have been distributed. I can't seem to find information on the web site about how to subscribe to it though, and I don't remember how I got signed up.

John, KC7DRI

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:17 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.

wunder
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Ron Genovesi

Re: Deleting OT

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Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled “OT"

Ron Genovesi
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> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>
> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>
>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>
>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>
>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
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WA2SI

Re: Deleting OT

Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI

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To: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT

Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled “OT"

Ron Genovesi
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EricJ

Re: Deleting OT

Since I only own a K1 and a couple of K2s, the vast majority of posts on
this list are OT to me. A few filters in Thunderbird allow me to see the
legacy stuff and the OT stuff keeps the Elecraft community together when
there are no Elecraft specific posts. That helps ensure the Elecraft
brain trust is there when "on topic" answers are needed.

Eric KE6US

On 6/16/2018 11:24 AM, Bert Craig wrote:

> Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...
>
> Vy 73 de Bert
> WA2SI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Genovesi <[hidden email]>
> To: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
>
> Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push? This whole thread should have been labeled “OT"
>
> Ron Genovesi
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
>>
>> This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 years ago.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
>>>
>>> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
>>> Subscribe to individual emails.
>>> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
>>> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
>>> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
>>>
>>> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with "OT" into into your trash.
>>>
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>>>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
>>>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
>>>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make it stop—short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
>>>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Chris Hallinan

Re: Deleting OT

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+1 on that, Bert. Censorship DOUBLE stinks!
The "human condition" never ceases to amaze me. We're Hams, We talk.
Sometimes WAY too much LOL
73 de K1aY
Chris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 2:25 PM Bert Craig <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.)
> Imagine coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and
> asking the ops to go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...
>
> Vy 73 de Bert
> WA2SI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Genovesi <[hidden email]>
> To: Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
>
> Really Guys? Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and
> push? This whole thread should have been labeled “OT"
>
> Ron Genovesi
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only
> allow posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An
> elecraft-discuss list would be like the current list.
> >
> > This was a common convention when I first started following email lists
> 35 years ago.
> >
> > wunder
> > K6WRU
> > Walter Underwood
> > CM87wj
> > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my
> blog)
> >
> >> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests. But if you
> are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your
> smartphone or other web based application, then read on.
> >>
> >> If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the
> digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
> >> Subscribe to individual emails.
> >> Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
> >> Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that
> folder.
> >> Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.
> >>
> >> If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place
> anything with "OT" into into your trash.
> >>
> >> Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> >>> While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit
> the DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really
> delete only the OT posts when using the digest.
> >>> Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software
> automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
> >>> I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of
> equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack
> of other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have
> absolutely nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in
> the Elecraft dog house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what
> people should post.
> >>> I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could
> mercifully make it stop —short of unsubscribing and losing the actual
> useful content otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and
> simply setup a rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT.
> Then just delete posts by people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
> >>> Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
> >> ______________________________________________________________
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