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Joseph Trombino, Jr

Dual Watch on the KX3

Howdy Fellow Elecrafters:

I've been having a great time working W1AW/X on the bands using my KX3.

It's amazing to break pileups using just 4W out of the KX3 to a W5GI antenna up only 32'.

This would not have been as easy as it has been without the wonderful Dual Watch option on the KX3.

Thank you Wayne and Eric for designing and marketing such a superb little transceiver.

The downside of this great little rig is that my K3 is getting dusty (grin).

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Jeff kb2m

K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...

73 Jeff KB2M

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Jim Brown-10

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

On 3/19/2014 9:05 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's.

What are you trying to accomplish by using the different mics? Is it
that you don't want to wear the headset?

FWIW -- I use a CM500 for all CW and SSB operation, and find it quite
comfortable to just lean back in the chair and talk.

73, Jim K9YC
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Phil Hystad-3

Re: Dual Watch on the KX3

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It seems that Elecraft should run one of their own contests.

How about collecting W1AWs for each zone and state and for each Elecraft rig you own. For me, that would be the KX1, KX3, and K3. I just noticed, I should ad a '2' to that list.

73, phil, K7PEH

P.S. Just picked up W1AW/4 TN on my K3 at 14.033 MHz at 9:16 AM PDT.

On Mar 19, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Joe W2KJ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Howdy Fellow Elecrafters:
>
> I've been having a great time working W1AW/X on the bands using my KX3.
>
> It's amazing to break pileups using just 4W out of the KX3 to a W5GI antenna up only 32'.
>
> This would not have been as easy as it has been without the wonderful Dual Watch option on the KX3.
>
> Thank you Wayne and Eric for designing and marketing such a superb little transceiver.
>
> The downside of this great little rig is that my K3 is getting dusty (grin).
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
> I QRP, therefore I am
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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Jeff,

Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I
unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with
the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you
doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...
>
> 73 Jeff KB2M
>

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Jim Bennett

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

Phil -

I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 100% of the time! I made up a small box that has a momentary push button switch and a toggle switch on it in parallel. I ran a wire from it to the PTT In jack on the back of the K3. Works great - I can use either the toggle or the push button switch for the PTT function.

Jim / W6JHB

On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2014, at Wednesday, 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...
>>
>> 73 Jeff KB2M
>>
>
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Jeff kb2m

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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I'm using PTT Phil. If you would like I could send you all my mic related parms next time I'm at my winter home.

73 Jeff KB2M

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From: Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:30:22 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I
unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with
the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you
doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...
>
> 73 Jeff KB2M
>

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Phil Hystad-3

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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phil...

I use the CM500 with the K3 plugged into the rear panel connection. I use a VOX when operating SSB but I also have a foot switch (bought at the local Guitar Store) plugged into the rear panel PTT. Works very nicely.

73, another phil, K7PEH

On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jim Brown-10

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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On 3/19/2014 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3?

I'm not Jeff, but it's real simple. Plug mic and phones into the rear
panel connectors. Go into the menu, choose the rear panel mic, and turn
on bias (tap 2 on the keypad, I think -- check the manual). That makes
the mic work. Set mic gain to low -- the CM500 is a pretty "hot" mic.

You're going to want to turn the speaker on and off, so I assign that
function to PF2 (long push of XIT). To do that, go into the menu, find
the Speaker + Phones toggle, and push the XIT button.

For TXEQ, full cut of the three lowest frequency bands, then do some
additional cut of the 4th band with someone listening to guide you as to
how much. BTW -- those settings are good for both K3 and KX3.

Another hint for the KX3. Because the KX3 is specifically designed for
backpacking and minimal current drain, the speaker and headphone amp are
not very powerful. We can make the best use of the available power by
not wasting it on low frequency sounds. This means that setting the
three lowest bands of RXEQ for maximum cut is a good idea, and will
likely imcrease the headroom by a few dB.

73, Jim K9YC
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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Thanks, Jim. That sounds like a great way to go.

Phil w7ox

On 3/19/14, 9:36 AM, Jim Bennett wrote:

> Phil -
>
> I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 100% of the time! I made up a small box that has a momentary push button switch and a toggle switch on it in parallel. I ran a wire from it to the PTT In jack on the back of the K3. Works great - I can use either the toggle or the push button switch for the PTT function.
>
> Jim / W6JHB
>
>
> On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2014, at Wednesday, 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented?
>>
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful information...
>>>
>>> 73 Jeff KB2M
>>>
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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Jim,

If using a headset, why the comments re speaker
on-off for K3?

One reason I bought the CM500 is the need to shut
out sounds if doing SSB in a noisy environment.
Normally in the shack I use the speakers and MC43
hand mike on K3 (so far) and a Sony earplug for CW
(singular because one ear is stone deaf).

73, Phil

On 3/19/14, 9:46 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 3/19/2014 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3?
>
> I'm not Jeff, but it's real simple. Plug mic and
> phones into the rear panel connectors. Go into
> the menu, choose the rear panel mic, and turn on
> bias (tap 2 on the keypad, I think -- check the
> manual). That makes the mic work. Set mic gain
> to low -- the CM500 is a pretty "hot" mic.
>
> You're going to want to turn the speaker on and
> off, so I assign that function to PF2 (long push
> of XIT). To do that, go into the menu, find the
> Speaker + Phones toggle, and push the XIT button.
>
> For TXEQ, full cut of the three lowest frequency
> bands, then do some additional cut of the 4th
> band with someone listening to guide you as to
> how much. BTW -- those settings are good for
> both K3 and KX3.
>
> Another hint for the KX3. Because the KX3 is
> specifically designed for backpacking and
> minimal current drain, the speaker and headphone
> amp are not very powerful. We can make the best
> use of the available power by not wasting it on
> low frequency sounds. This means that setting
> the three lowest bands of RXEQ for maximum cut
> is a good idea, and will likely imcrease the
> headroom by a few dB.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>

Nr4c

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two. It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
"ON".

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!

************************************************

TO set mic to front for Hiel HM10-Dual

Name: -MicFP

Macro: MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H

To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name: -MicRPl

Macro: MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle. If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range. Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting. Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go. If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...

73 Jeff KB2M

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Jeff kb2m

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

Thanks Bill this is exactly what I was looking for, some place to start. I
was wondering if anyone else has setup any macros for mic selection.
Thanks....

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Conkling [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two. It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
"ON".

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!

************************************************

TO set mic to front for Hiel HM10-Dual

Name: -MicFP

Macro: MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H

To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name: -MicRPl

Macro: MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle. If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range. Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting. Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go. If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:06 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...

73 Jeff KB2M

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Jim Brown-10

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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On 3/19/2014 10:35 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> If using a headset, why the comments re speaker on-off for K3?

Because I often have the radio on while I'm doing other things around
the shack. And also because I operate CW casually, and because I work
various digital modes that don't require me to hear real well. For
example, I need the listen to RTTY and PSK31 well enough to tune it in,
but not well enough to copy it.

That's why I asked Jeff WHY he wanted to use two different mics. As a
retired sound system design consultant, part of my job was getting folks
to articulate their goals and needs, not in terms of equipment they
thought they needed, but it terms of what they want to accomplish. From
there, it was my job to match solutions to their needs.

So Jeff, I wasn't taking offense, but simply clarifying your goals.

73, Jim K9YC
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Nr4c

Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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No problem, Jeff.

This combo is just that, a start. There are some gurus on the list that
have written macros that only require one pf# key as they do some magic and
self-modify themselves to toggle the setup. Maybe when they finish the
discussion on one verses two mics or speakers +/- phones, one of them will
enlighten us with some real useful information.

'till then, I use the macros I sent you myself, with some mods to the TE:

Good luck.

...bill nr4c

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Griffin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:20 PM
To: 'Bill Conkling'
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Thanks Bill this is exactly what I was looking for, some place to start. I
was wondering if anyone else has setup any macros for mic selection.
Thanks....

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Conkling [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Jeff,

I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but
no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two. It seems that everyone has
opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the
"ON".

But, as for the macros, here goes.

These are old, but you can see what I have done and adjust accordingly.
Good luck!

************************************************

TO set mic to front for Hiel HM10-Dual

Name: -MicFP

Macro: MG020;CP020;MN053;DN;DN;TE-03-03+00+00+03+03+00+00;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF1

This will set gain to 20, the compression to 20, set mic to front, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to H

To set rear for YAMAHA CM500

Name: -MicRPl

Macro: MG017;CP005;MN053;DN;DN;UP;TE+00+00+00+03+03+03+03+03;SWT11;

ASSIGN TO PF2

This will set gain to 17, compression to 5, set mic to rear, adjust TX
Equalization and set range to L

NOTE:'

The setting for range H or L is a toggle. If you press the same function
key twice, it will toggle the range. Therefore these macros leave the Main
Menu active to show the Front/Rear and Range setting. Just press the MENY
butoon and you are ready to go. If the range is wrong, just press keypad #1
to toggle to the other setting.

...bill

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share
with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp,
etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the
CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was
up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use
for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first
time to switch between the two mic's. Thanks in advance for any useful
information...

73 Jeff KB2M

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Re: K3 macro's to switch mic's

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Also if using front and rear mics, while using rear mic, you can use PTT on front mic.

73
Mike R

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Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
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