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Re: MY SECOND K2

Stephen W. Kercel
Vic:

Certainly I agree; likewise substations and skyscrapers take hits fairly
often.

Let me qualify my comments by two clarifications:

1) You can design to survive an "average" direct hit. While the cost to do
so can be met by commercial broadcasters, power companies, and commercial
real estate operators, it is utterly out of reach of practically all hams.

2) Even in a commercial setup, you cannot design to be completely lightning
proof. You can design to withstand a certain stroke current, perhaps a
current that is higher than that found in 99.9999% of strokes in your
region. If so you still have a one in a million chance of being wiped out,
pretty good (if perhaps prohibitively expensive) odds, but not dead-certain
protection.

73,

Steve
AA4AK




At 03:15 PM 9/1/2005 -0700, Vic K2VCO wrote:

>Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
>
>>BTW, you cannot really design to survive a direct hit. If your antenna is
>>actually struck by lightning, the antenna itself will most likely be
>>destroyed, along with the coax and the rig. Also the building will suffer
>>structural damage.
>
>I don't think that's quite true.  BC stations survive direct hits every
>day.  I would agree, however, that it would cost more than most hams are
>willing to spend.
>
>You would need an antenna some distance from the building, with an
>appropriate lightning ground system (multiple radials, each with several
>ground rods on it) at the base of the tower.  Then you would need
>lightning suppressors at the top and bottom of the tower for all coax and
>control lines.  At the entrance to the building, you would need a single
>entrance panel, through which all power, antenna, telephone, etc. lines
>feeding the building would pass and on which were mounted the appropriate
>suppressors for all the above.  At this point there would be another
>ground system, bonded of course to the antenna ground system.
>
>If you had a separate building for a shack, this probably wouldn't be too
>hard; but for a building that also serves as a home it might be difficult!
>
>
>--
>73,
>Vic, K2VCO
>Fresno CA
>http://www.qsl.net/k2vco


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Re: MY SECOND K2

Mark Bayern-2
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>
> I don't think that's quite true.  BC stations survive direct hits every
> day.
>

well ... sort of. I used to make a reasonable living repairing BC
stations in upstate NY.  Got real good at repairing HV power supplies.

It is fun to stand at the base of an AM tower and watch the arc fly
across the lightening arrestor. Sure helps one remember to lock the
dog house gate when you leave.  :)

...  That was back when a 1st phone ticket was valuable.

Mark   AD5SS
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Re: MY SECOND K2

Earl W Cunningham
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Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

"If your antenna is actually struck by lightning, the antenna itself will
most likely be destroyed, along with the coax and the rig.  Also the
building will suffer structural damage."
==========
In the 8 years that I lived near the Gulf Coast in Texas as W5RTQ (lots
of lightning there), my tower and antenna took many lightning hits with
no damage to anything whatsoever.  The antenna coax was always connected
to the rig.

In the 29 years I've lived here in the Mojave Desert (lightning is rare
here), my tower(s)/antenna(s) have been struck twice by lightning with no
damage to anything whatsoever.

I should mention that the towers involved had extensive buried ground
radial systems made up of bare wire (I shunt feed my towers on 160/80
meters).  I assume that my well-grounded towers attract lightning, but
obviously that lightning is safely conducted to ground.

73, de Earl, K6SE
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Re: MY SECOND K2

Stephen W. Kercel
May your good luck continue.

73

Steve
AA4AK


At 05:29 PM 9/1/2005 -0700, Earl W Cunningham wrote:

>Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
>
>"If your antenna is actually struck by lightning, the antenna itself will
>most likely be destroyed, along with the coax and the rig.  Also the
>building will suffer structural damage."
>==========
>In the 8 years that I lived near the Gulf Coast in Texas as W5RTQ (lots
>of lightning there), my tower and antenna took many lightning hits with
>no damage to anything whatsoever.  The antenna coax was always connected
>to the rig.
>
>In the 29 years I've lived here in the Mojave Desert (lightning is rare
>here), my tower(s)/antenna(s) have been struck twice by lightning with no
>damage to anything whatsoever.
>
>I should mention that the towers involved had extensive buried ground
>radial systems made up of bare wire (I shunt feed my towers on 160/80
>meters).  I assume that my well-grounded towers attract lightning, but
>obviously that lightning is safely conducted to ground.
>
>73, de Earl, K6SE


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Re: MY SECOND K2

Paul E. Picking
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"If your antenna is actually struck by lightning, the antenna itself will
most likely be destroyed, along with the coax and the rig.  Also the
building will suffer structural damage."
==========

1980's Lightning Strike   Shelby, Ohio

Random wire to old oak tree in  back yard--------Vaporized

2m  1/4 antenna coat hanger wire in SO239-----antenna survived but RG58 coax vaporized to chunks of insulation with longest about 1 inch in length--no metal left

Trapped ground mounted vertical------arced over leaving carbon track in base part

Splintered charred wood where conductors came in thru wood at window of house.

No Radio damage because all antennas were disconnected just inside window---was lucky that indoors escaped damage.


Submersible water pump and cordless phone base unit zapped also

Paul WD8OJL KX1 SN1082
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