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Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

robert hammond-2
Hi,

>From the comments of those apparently " in the know" it appears that the K3 will not be shipping by the end of August.  Whilst I appreciate the need to ensure that the first shipments are fully tested and conform to specification, and all the documentation is fully sorted,  I wonder whether an official update on the website might be helpful to manage expectations ??.


>>>>
In the last official update of 23rd July .....
We appreciate your patience as we transition into full K3 production. We'll keep you informed of our progress, and look forward to your feedback on the manuals as they near completion. We've already had many offers to proofread -- thanks!
<<<<<

73

Bob Hammond G4DBW


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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

David Pratt-2
In a recent message, robert hammond <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>From the comments of those apparently " in the know" it appears that
>the K3 will not be shipping by the end of August.  Whilst I appreciate
>the need to ensure that the first shipments are fully tested and
>conform to specification, and all the documentation is fully sorted,  I
>wonder whether an official update on the website might be helpful to
>manage expectations ??.

No, Bob, leave them to get on with it.  Shipping was quoted as being
targeted *from* 31 August, not *by* 31 August.

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

W2AGN-2
David Pratt wrote:

> In a recent message, robert hammond <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>> From the comments of those apparently " in the know" it appears that
>> the K3 will not be shipping by the end of August.  Whilst I appreciate
>> the need to ensure that the first shipments are fully tested and
>> conform to specification, and all the documentation is fully sorted,
>> I wonder whether an official update on the website might be helpful to
>> manage expectations ??.
>
> No, Bob, leave them to get on with it.  Shipping was quoted as being
> targeted *from* 31 August, not *by* 31 August.
>
> 73

I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as
advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little
communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers.

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Thom LaCosta
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:

>
> I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as
> advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little
> communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers.

And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about the
delay and the lack of announcements....

Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery against
shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set.

Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the
slippage in delivery dates.

73 k3hrn
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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

JT Croteau
On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta <[hidden email]> wrote:
> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset
> about the delay and the lack of announcements....

Good things come to those who wait, patiently!

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Thom LaCosta
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, JT Croteau wrote:

> On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset
>> about the delay and the lack of announcements....
>
> Good things come to those who wait, patiently!

I am reminded of the the phrase...."It's just a hobby, just a hobby"

It might be interesting reading to learn what features were improved and/or
added between the first announced and the actual ship date.....but then there
would be people who harruph over the fact that they will neve use those
features.

Buck Up Aptos....the K3 is a real of example of you can please some of the
people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time.

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Greg - AB7R
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Just one of many changes is that there are now 10 programable keys.  Two have their
on label on the front panel (hold functions of the RIT and XIT buttons) and then
you can also program the M1-4 buttons as a PFx in both TAP and HOLD, that gives you
8 more PFx functions for a total of 10.  When you want to use any of the M1-4
buttons for messages, you record  your message in the normal way and it reverts
back to that function.

Another great update is when operating FSK from the CW key when not connected to a
computer.  Now you can use your CW messages you programmed into the M1-4 buttons
and the K3 will convert them to FSK.


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On Wed Aug 29 10:40 , Thom LaCosta  sent:

>On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, JT Croteau wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/07, Thom LaCosta [hidden email]> wrote:
>>> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset
>>> about the delay and the lack of announcements....
>>
>> Good things come to those who wait, patiently!
>
>I am reminded of the the phrase...."It's just a hobby, just a hobby"
>
>It might be interesting reading to learn what features were improved and/or
>added between the first announced and the actual ship date.....but then there
>would be people who harruph over the fact that they will neve use those
>features.
>
>Buck Up Aptos....the K3 is a real of example of you can please some of the
>people some of the time, but never all of the people all of the time.
>
>73 k3hrn
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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

W2AGN-2
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Thom LaCosta wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:
>
>>
>> I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to
>> Elecraft as
>> advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little
>> communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers.
>
> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about
> the delay and the lack of announcements....
>
> Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery
> against
> shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set.
>
> Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the
> slippage in delivery dates.
>
> 73 k3hrn
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My complaint was not the delay but the lack of communication. Hey, Elecraft is a
COMPANY, not the second coming! At least 200 people laid out a 50% payment IN
ADVANCE. That would be from $1000 for a barebones modular kit to around $2000
for a loaded, built K3. So figuring an average of $1500, that $300,000 of OUR
money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to
date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft
Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.

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because my K3 has to travel

Charly
Because my K3 has to travel all the way around the world, I would rather
wait more than have to try to get 2 or three separate incoming shippments.

BTW, I just sold not one but TWO Yaesu Mark 5 rigs in anticipation of ONE
K3....  73

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Van W1WCG
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I have to agree with John -- I've plunked down my advance payment
to Elecraft, and I don't think it's too much to ask to expect a brief
progress report and forecast for shipping schedules.  I'd rather have
some commuications that need to be adjusted as time goes forward,
rather than sit and wait in total silence.  Advertising hype and teasing
is fine, but we're all dedicated Elecraft folks here who have invested
serious bucks, so it's not necessary to play this kind of game with
us.

Please, Elecraft, let's hear what's going on at Aptos and what we
can expect for the furture....

Van W1WCG
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To: "Thom LaCosta" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??


> Thom LaCosta wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to
>>> Elecraft as
>>> advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little
>>> communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers.
>>
>> And some folks who laid out just as much money are NOT that upset about
>> the delay and the lack of announcements....
>>
>> Personally, I trust the folks at Elecraft to balance timely delivery
>> against
>> shipping a radio that has a fuller feature set.
>>
>> Maybe they could ship partially optimal unit to those that object to the
>> slippage in delivery dates.
>>
>> 73 k3hrn
>> Thom,EIEIO
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>
> My complaint was not the delay but the lack of communication. Hey,
> Elecraft is a
> COMPANY, not the second coming! At least 200 people laid out a 50% payment
> IN
> ADVANCE. That would be from $1000 for a barebones modular kit to around
> $2000
> for a loaded, built K3. So figuring an average of $1500, that $300,000 of
> OUR
> money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up
> to
> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the
> Elecraft
> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.
>
> --
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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Julian, G4ILO
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I am one of those people, and I'm not complaining. Furthermore, I paid
my 50% at a worse exchange rate than is now the case, never mind the
loss of interest.

Nobody forced me to do so. I did it in order to get my K3 ahead of
those who didn't stump up. No promises of a delivery date were made,
or expected. I think through this reflector we are well informed about
what is going on, and like others have said, I'd rather they get it
right first time than have to do a lot of awkward mods because of
things that weren't fixed because they shipped too quickly.

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On 8/29/07, W2AGN <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I beg you pardon, but some of us have over $1K already paid to Elecraft as
> advance on the K3. It does not seem unreasonable to expect a little
> communication since that money is already in Elecraft's coffers.
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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Don Ehrlich
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> (snip)......I would expect to be kept up to
> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the
> Elecraft
> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.

> John - W2AGN


Hear Hear!   All I know is that the Elecraft MoJo would take a serious hit
from any last minute announcement this late in the game.  Late surprises in
scheduling always indicate lack of awareness and control and tend to destroy
confidence among customers.  There is never any excuse for it ... and that
is why you always see responsible companies announce delays well ahead of an
impending miss in schedule.  Yes, it sometimes happens even to the best
companies, but they are the ones to acknowledge and explain the problem
early.  That is why, with only 3 days to go before at least one K3 ships I
am pretty confident that there will be no further significant delays
announced for the K3.

Don K7FJ

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Thom LaCosta
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:

> money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept up to
> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the Elecraft
> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.

You have such a way with words John....it;s always amuzing to watch you turn
discussions into personal name-calling.

I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time for a
finished product that has more than I expected at the outset....but then again,
by doing that I give up my right to whine and stir bovine output.


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W2AGN-2
Thom LaCosta wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:
>
>> money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept
>> up to
>> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the
>> Elecraft
>> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.
>
> You have such a way with words John....it;s always amuzing to watch you
> turn discussions into personal name-calling.

Personal name calling? I fail to see any personal reference in my comment, other
than that that may be taken by someone. In other words, "If the shoe fits...."

>
> I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time
> for a finished product that has more than I expected at the
> outset....but then again, by doing that I give up my right to whine and
> stir bovine output.


Oh, that's OK, Thom, you always find some way to expel the bovine output. (Now
THAT was a personal comment!)
>

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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Rob Locher W7GH
Enough with the flame war already!

73,
- Rob W7GH




On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:24:28 -0700, W2AGN <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thom LaCosta wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, W2AGN wrote:
>>
>>> money that is in Elecraft's hands. For that, I would expect to be kept
>>> up to
>>> date on shipping. I am sorry if that offends those who worship at the
>>> Elecraft
>>> Altar, but I am not a believer in their divinity, just a customer.
>>
>> You have such a way with words John....it;s always amuzing to watch you
>> turn discussions into personal name-calling.
>
> Personal name calling? I fail to see any personal reference in my  
> comment, other
> than that that may be taken by someone. In other words, "If the shoe  
> fits...."
>
>>
>> I don't worship at Elecraft's Altar...I am just willing to trade time
>> for a finished product that has more than I expected at the
>> outset....but then again, by doing that I give up my right to whine and
>> stir bovine output.
>
>
> Oh, that's OK, Thom, you always find some way to expel the bovine  
> output. (Now
> THAT was a personal comment!)
>>
>



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Re: Elecraft K3 shipping end August ??

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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I just returned from the Japan Ham Fair and I see the natives are
restless. :-)  I'll be posting a K3 status update later today. (I'm
reviewing all of our internal and vendor status right now.)

Please - No more arguments on the list debating each other on what is,
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