Is this still slated to be out by year end?
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> >Is this still slated to be out by year end? Yes, but I don't think anyone said which year ;-) 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Believe Wayne said Jan now
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE) On 17 Nov 2009, at 10:20, David Pratt wrote: > In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote ... >> >> Is this still slated to be out by year end? > > Yes, but I don't think anyone said which year ;-) > > 73 > -- > David G4DMP > Leeds, England, UK > ------ > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: > In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote ... >> >>Is this still slated to be out by year end? > > Yes, but I don't think anyone said which year ;-) > > 73 > -- > David G4DMP > Leeds, England, UK > ------ Dave, A few weeks ago I called Elecraft and spoke to one of their nice ladies about the impending P3 and she guessed either by late DEC. 2009 or JAN. (sometime) 2010. But in their business that time frame can change in a "HEART-BEAT" right? "PATIENCE" is the keyword here! Jim/nn6ee S/N 2406 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
That's right.
> "PATIENCE" is the keyword here! And don't touch the earmarked funds!!!! Give me more time to sell my FT1000MP!! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM DAVIS" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:20:47 +0000 > David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: >> In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote ... >>> >>>Is this still slated to be out by year end? >> >> Yes, but I don't think anyone said which year ;-) >> >> 73 >> -- >> David G4DMP >> Leeds, England, UK >> ------ > ********************************************************************************* > Dave, > > A few weeks ago I called Elecraft and spoke to one of their nice ladies > about the impending P3 and > she guessed either by late DEC. 2009 or JAN. (sometime) 2010. But in their > business that time > frame > can change in a "HEART-BEAT" right? > > "PATIENCE" is the keyword here! > > Jim/nn6ee > S/N 2406 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
And if you can't sell any radio or save any money,don't worry,use your plastic card and have more debts,after all its just a hobby and all of them, are expensive.
AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Larry - K2GN <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Larry - K2GN <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:23 AM That's right. > "PATIENCE" is the keyword here! And don't touch the earmarked funds!!!! Give me more time to sell my FT1000MP!! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM DAVIS" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:20:47 +0000 > David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: >> In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote ... >>> >>>Is this still slated to be out by year end? >> >> Yes, but I don't think anyone said which year ;-) >> >> 73 >> -- >> David G4DMP >> Leeds, England, UK >> ------ > ********************************************************************************* > Dave, > > A few weeks ago I called Elecraft and spoke to one of their nice ladies > about the impending P3 and > she guessed either by late DEC. 2009 or JAN. (sometime) 2010. But in their > business that time > frame > can change in a "HEART-BEAT" right? > > "PATIENCE" is the keyword here! > > Jim/nn6ee > S/N 2406 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have found it very interesting reading the various reports of firmware
upgrade issues when installing new firmware releases to the K3. I am wondering if it has something to do with the interconnect between the computer and the K3; and especially if one is using a USB/RS232 converter. I purchased my K3 at Dayton this year and have done every Beta upgrade and all went flawlessly. That said, I am using a RS-232 port on my computer (Com 1) to connect directly to the radio. My experience with the USB to RS232 converters has not been all that great; and from what I have picked up from "third class rumors" (similar to ones you might overhear in a men's restroom), not all USB/RS232 converters are created equally (some work all the time, some work some of the time, and other never work any of the time). And one other "tidbit" of information that I read in the US Interface Navigator Installation Manual was to avoid using COM 3; the manual says; for some reason (known only to the computer gods and maybe Bill Gates) COM 3 can be grabbed by other programs" So, to solve that problem, when I upgraded my computer to Windows 7 last week, I also "upgraded" to seven RS232 ports on the back of the computer. I only need six (K3, two rotor controllers, satellite antenna control, IC-910H control, and last but not least a DSP-2232 data controller), so that gives me a spare for possible future use. Dick K8ZTT __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4636 (20091125) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The real rub for USB serial converters is poor drivers and poor
individual bios, taken together with an a Windows OS that historically does poorly with critical slow-speed hardware timing. I've watched K3 programs and the K3 be blamed over and over on this reflector, but we are making Aptos responsible for poor code by Microsoft, hardware manufacturers, and bios writers. The only question that can really be aimed at Elecraft is whether Aptos app builders can talk to the very willing K3 *IN SPITE OF* an individual driver, bios, or OS. Every time the OS changes, and with every new motherboard, we get to start over from scratch. And blame Elecraft. Perhaps it's what they get for being the only one of those who can actually be talked to? 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Dick Williams <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have found it very interesting reading the various reports of firmware > upgrade issues when installing new firmware releases to the K3. I am > wondering if it has something to do with the interconnect between the > computer and the K3; and especially if one is using a USB/RS232 converter. > > I purchased my K3 at Dayton this year and have done every Beta upgrade and > all went flawlessly. That said, I am using a RS-232 port on my computer > (Com 1) to connect directly to the radio. My experience with the USB to > RS232 converters has not been all that great; and from what I have picked up > from "third class rumors" (similar to ones you might overhear in a men's > restroom), not all USB/RS232 converters are created equally (some work all > the time, some work some of the time, and other never work any of the time). > And one other "tidbit" of information that I read in the US Interface > Navigator Installation Manual was to avoid using COM 3; the manual says; > for some reason (known only to the computer gods and maybe Bill Gates) COM 3 > can be grabbed by other programs" > > So, to solve that problem, when I upgraded my computer to Windows 7 last > week, I also "upgraded" to seven RS232 ports on the back of the computer. I > only need six (K3, two rotor controllers, satellite antenna control, IC-910H > control, and last but not least a DSP-2232 data controller), so that gives > me a spare for possible future use. > > Dick K8ZTT > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4636 (20091125) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
It is not a matter of blaming Elecraft, K1EL, Green Heron, the various software authors or any other ham radio vendor or person. It is a matter of trying to find the combination that will work and hoping that someone is smart enough to know how, or lucky enough to stumble on the secret, or that collective wisdom is better than each of us trying to go it alone. It is no use complaining to Microsoft, HP, Dell or any of the other computer vendors who would tell us to forget Ham Radio and spend our time playing World of Warcraft or some other games where they can make multi-bucks. So, we try to get wisdom from some one who might care. Sometimes it works, sometimes it is misunderstood as attacking the hands that feed us.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ________________________________ From: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> To: Dick Williams <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 5:48:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade speeds and problems The real rub for USB serial converters is poor drivers and poor individual bios, taken together with an a Windows OS that historically does poorly with critical slow-speed hardware timing. I've watched K3 programs and the K3 be blamed over and over on this reflector, but we are making Aptos responsible for poor code by Microsoft, hardware manufacturers, and bios writers. The only question that can really be aimed at Elecraft is whether Aptos app builders can talk to the very willing K3 *IN SPITE OF* an individual driver, bios, or OS. Every time the OS changes, and with every new motherboard, we get to start over from scratch. And blame Elecraft. Perhaps it's what they get for being the only one of those who can actually be talked to? 73, Guy. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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