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Eric Manning
I think I would pay $500. I have no idea if it is do-able at that price.

eric
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply

JOHN SAID

Elecraft could design a small (RFI
quiet) switching PS which would constantly recharge an
appropriately sized LiFePO4 battery pack, which in turn would
supply the power needed by the K3/P3 combo (i.e. 25 amps).
In effect this would replace the large caps in the HPS-1a
design, with the LiPo battery.  Bottom line: a universal voltage
uninterruptible internal PS.

I agree, and more to the point -- I would buy one.  

eric
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Re: Elecraft Power supply

Richard Squire - HB9ANM
Now, why should Elecraft build power supplies?
Let them stick to what we know their good at: making transceivers and ancillaries, kits, ...
There is a plethora of good, clean PSUs on the market.
Just for info: I have two, rated at 28 A peak, from a German provider but they look as if they were from Jetstream! No problem, no noise, working flawlessly for two years.
Purchased at Friedrichshafen Ham Fair for about $ 90 each - so what are we talking about?
Our friends at Aptos are busy working on the P3, KPA500, ATU...
Why should they go into the trouble of developing yet another PSU when there are so many to choose from? - just for the fun of having a matching box next to the K3/P3?
Elecraft is unique - the K3 is unique - anyone can build decent PSUs.

Just my two Eurocents!

Eric Manning wrote
I think I would pay $500. I have no idea if it is do-able at that price.

eric
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Re: Elecraft Power supply

Eugene Balinski
Ron,  

 True, but they certainly did look nice. However,
"Al-i-ken-su" still builds matching 12v supplies for their
12v radios.  Some people like to have a complete "matching"
station.  If the matching supply should do something more
than the typical Aston, then bonus.

 There have been some very good power supply ideas put
forth by the the greater list.  Maybe Elecraft will develop
and sell one.  

73,
K1NR

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:41:52 -0700
 "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The rigs most of us remember with matching power supplies
> - the Collins,
> Heathkits, etc.-  HAD to have custom power supplies
> designed to provide
> specific voltages and the specific currents needed.
>
> That went away with the advent of the rigs designed to
> run from 13.8 VDC.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
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N6JW
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Hi Richard:

If you look at my earlier emails, you will see that we are not talking
about Elecraft simply re-inventing the wheel, but rather doing
something innovative and state of the art in an uninterruptible
PS internal to the P3 to enhance the portability of the K3/P3 combo.
No extra box (i.e. PS) to carry.  This is a big deal for the significant
number of us who travel extensively with our K3's.

John
N6JW

Richard Squire - HB9ANM wrote
Now, why should Elecraft build power supplies?
Let them stick to what we know their good at: making transceivers and ancillaries, kits, ...
There is a plethora of good, clean PSUs on the market.
Just for info: I have two, rated at 28 A peak, from a German provider but they look as if they were from Jetstream! No problem, no noise, working flawlessly for two years.
Purchased at Friedrichshafen Ham Fair for about $ 90 each - so what are we talking about?
Our friends at Aptos are busy working on the P3, KPA500, ATU...
Why should they go into the trouble of developing yet another PSU when there are so many to choose from? - just for the fun of having a matching box next to the K3/P3?
Elecraft is unique - the K3 is unique - anyone can build decent PSUs.

Just my two Eurocents!

Eric Manning wrote
I think I would pay $500. I have no idea if it is do-able at that price.

eric
VA7DZ

How much would you be willing to pay? $300, $500?  
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Re: Elecraft Power supply

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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The one instance that would justify an Elecraft power supply
is if they would produce a 48/60 Volt 200 W replacement for
the KPA-3.  I'd go for a higher power output and matching
supply in a New York minute.

The higher voltage amplifier would significantly reduce transmit
IMD while the 200 - 250 W output would both obviate the need for
an amplifier and make it easier to drive low gain "glass bottle"
and ex-USSR ceramic triode amplifiers to the legal output.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 8/10/2010 6:41 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> The rigs most of us remember with matching power supplies - the Collins,
> Heathkits, etc.-  HAD to have custom power supplies designed to provide
> specific voltages and the specific currents needed.
>
> That went away with the advent of the rigs designed to run from 13.8 VDC.
>
> Ron AC7AC
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Re: Elecraft Power supply

juergen piezo
Hi Joe

That would be a fantastic option.

I would also like to see the LPA3 use 50 volt or higher FETS as well. This would eliminating all sources of poor TX IMD. This option would certainly make me sell my FT1000D which I keep for the very reasons  that you state.

I have switched between 200 watts and 1kw on numerous QSO's without telling  the other operators, most stations never  know that I have even done it nor do they pass any comment on signal strength loss.


73
John



> The one instance that would justify an Elecraft power
> supply
> is if they would produce a 48/60 Volt 200 W replacement
> for
> the KPA-3.  I'd go for a higher power output and
> matching
> supply in a New York minute.
>
> The higher voltage amplifier would significantly reduce
> transmit
> IMD while


     
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Julian, G4ILO
In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
The one instance that would justify an Elecraft power supply
is if they would produce a 48/60 Volt 200 W replacement for
the KPA-3.  I'd go for a higher power output and matching
supply in a New York minute.

The higher voltage amplifier would significantly reduce transmit
IMD while the 200 - 250 W output would both obviate the need for
an amplifier and make it easier to drive low gain "glass bottle"
and ex-USSR ceramic triode amplifiers to the legal output.
Could 200W be done within the K3 form factor (and without the assistance of deafening fans?)

Even if the output were still 100W I'd still find it an attractive option, just for the better linearity.
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ab2tc
If Elecraft could come up with a replacement for the KPA3 delivering 100-200W with 40dB IMD performance, I would buy one in an instant. Forget about the power supply, that's a commodity.

AB2TC - Knut

Julian, G4ILO wrote
<snip>
Could 200W be done within the K3 form factor (and without the assistance of deafening fans?)

Even if the output were still 100W I'd still find it an attractive option, just for the better linearity.
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Re: Elecraft Power supply

Richard Squire - HB9ANM
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That's right, Ron. But I like 13.8 VDC rigs, mainly for portabilty reasons...
My FT-1000MP (though a wonderful rig) was a chore to switch over 230 VAC/13.8 VDC.
But many modern rigs also have (built-in) PSUs for specific voltages: FT-1000 MkV
and even the new FT-5000. But for 200 W? Just 3 dB more - hardly noticeable.
I run my K3 on a little PSU and on a 12V lead-gel battery when operating portable.
Nice!
73
Richard


Ron D'Eau Claire [via Elecraft] schrieb:
The rigs most of us remember with matching power supplies - the Collins,
Heathkits, etc.-  HAD to have custom power supplies designed to provide
specific voltages and the specific currents needed.

That went away with the advent of the rigs designed to run from 13.8 VDC.

Ron AC7AC

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