Elecraft insurance rate?
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Hello group,
I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to find out what the insurance rate is? Mike Parkes AB7RU ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think it will depend on more than cost of items. Different shippers have different limits and prices for additional insurance.
Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Apr 21, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Mike Parkes <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello group, > I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around > $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance > charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue > what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, > what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just > state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to > find out what the insurance rate is? > Mike Parkes AB7RU > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Elecraft insurance rate?
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The only “oracle" required is, for example, the UPS website (or whatever shipper you choose) — https://www.ups.com/media/en/value-added_pricing_daily.pdf <https://www.ups.com/media/en/value-added_pricing_daily.pdf>.
90 cents per $100 in excess of the initial $100 is the standard rate for “declared value” on UPS. YMMV. On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I think it will depend on more than cost of items. Different shippers have different limits and prices for additional insurance. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Apr 21, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Mike Parkes <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello group, >> I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around >> $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance >> charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue >> what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, >> what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just >> state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to >> find out what the insurance rate is? >> Mike Parkes AB7RU Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Mike,
You get an "as calculated" price from separate software would be my guess. So that they can pass on their cost to you to keep your price as low and fair as possible. You're new here I suspect, so I understand the cynicism.... but it it definitely not warranted under these circumstances. Welcome to the reflector! 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G On 4/21/2017 6:09 AM, Mike Parkes wrote: > Hello group, > I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around > $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance > charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue > what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, > what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just > state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to > find out what the insurance rate is? > Mike Parkes AB7RU > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi,
I am aware of the UPS calling their insurance "declared value". Can somebody enlighten me as to what it means? Literature by UPS is very adamant that "declared value" is not insurance. Then exactly what is it? My expectation is that if the package is damaged or lost I will receive fair compensation up to the "declared value". On the topic of Elecraft's new insurance charges, I have been told by somebody at Elecraft in the past that they are "self insured". I take that to mean that they will take their chances and absorb the loss if a package is damaged or lost. It may very well make economic sense for large shipping volumes in the long run. BTW I have *never* have anything shipped to or from me damaged or lost. Not even a scratch to the shipping carton. So the notion of UPS strongmen tossing packages around must be a myth. The same thing goes for the post office. It has become a very competitive parcel service in recent years. AB2TC
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I have not looked at this in recent years but it used to be you declare value so the shipper can set rates for insurance. They are going to charge more for something that is hugely valuable.
To me the problem is not so much damage in transit but loss of the package. I have had two incidents at my home where things went awry. In one case they said a package was delivered, but I never saw it. On another occasion (just this week) a package was left at the wrong address. Fortunately, my neighbor saw that and brought it over so there was no loss. There is less risk of a package being misdelivered when a signature is required. If a package is misdelivered, who is to say what happened. The shipper will not admit to misdelivery, and it may come down to a mysterious criminal stealing it from your doorstep. From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ab2tc Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:10 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft insurance rate? Hi, I am aware of the UPS calling their insurance "declared value". Can somebody enlighten me as to what it means? Literature by UPS is very adamant that "declared value" is not insurance. Then exactly what is it? My expectation is that if the package is damaged or lost I will receive fair compensation up to the "declared value". On the topic of Elecraft's new insurance charges, I have been told by somebody at Elecraft in the past that they are "self insured". I take that to mean that they will take their chances and absorb the loss if a package is damaged or lost. It may very well make economic sense for large shipping volumes in the long run. BTW I have *never* have anything shipped to or from me damaged or lost. Not even a scratch to the shipping carton. So the notion of UPS strongmen tossing packages around must be a myth. The same thing goes for the post office. It has become a very competitive parcel service in recent years. AB2TC Grant Youngman-2 wrote > The only “oracle" required is, for example, the UPS website (or whatever > shipper you choose) — > https://www.ups.com/media/en/value-added_pricing_daily.pdf > <https://www.ups.com/media/en/value-added_pricing_daily.pdf><https://www.ups.com/media/en/value-added_pricing_daily.pdf%3e>;. > > 90 cents per $100 in excess of the initial $100 is the standard rate for > “declared value” on UPS. YMMV. > <snip> -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-insurance-rate-tp7629676p7629726.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> ________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/21/2017 2:10 PM, ab2tc wrote: > BTW I have *never* have anything shipped to or from me damaged or > lost. Not even a scratch to the shipping carton. You have been extremely lucky. I have, on the average, one parcel a year lost or stolen in shipment - particularly foreign shipments - to the extent that I will not ship to certain countries and require insurance on all shipments. Now that Elecraft are shipping more service work and higher value (think KPA500/KPA1500) products, it makes a lot of sense to use either carrier or third party insurance rather than absorb the loss. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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No, it has been documented several times by home security and cell phone
video; using both over and under hand throws. If your package is more than what you can afford to lose, insure it. Rick nhc On 4/21/2017 11:10 AM, ab2tc wrote: > So the notion > of UPS strongmen tossing packages around must be a myth. The same thing goes > for the post office. It has become a very competitive parcel service in > recent years. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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