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K8TE

Excel Test

This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable
format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at
the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this
morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's
instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works,
this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or
perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freq cq/dx snr speed timeEA5WU
K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 5 31 wpm
1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6
CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 6 31 wpm 1732z 24
FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ
9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPL K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebW1NT
K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 12 30 wpm
1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW1NT-6 K8TE
14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z
24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS K8TE 14060.5 CW
CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AO K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 28 wpm 1730z 24
FebK9LC K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ
18 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN
K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZ K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 31
wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebN9YKE K8TE
14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z
24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT K8TE 14060.5 CW
CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA
K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 29 30 wpm
1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW9XG K8TE
14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z
24 FebW8WWV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ K8TE 14060.6 CW
CQ 45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb

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M0XDF

Re: Excel Test

I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely?

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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> On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable
> format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at
> the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this
> morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's
> instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works,
> this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or
> perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freq cq/dx snr speed timeEA5WU
> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 5 31 wpm
> 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6
> CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 6 31 wpm 1732z 24
> FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ
> 9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPL K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebW1NT
> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 12 30 wpm
> 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW1NT-6 K8TE
> 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z
> 24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS K8TE 14060.5 CW
> CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AO K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 28 wpm 1730z 24
> FebK9LC K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ
> 18 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN
> K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZ K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 31
> wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebN9YKE K8TE
> 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z
> 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT K8TE 14060.5 CW
> CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA
> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 29 30 wpm
> 1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW9XG K8TE
> 14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z
> 24 FebW8WWV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ K8TE 14060.6 CW
> CQ 45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb
>
>
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Lyn WØLEN

Re: Excel Test

I use Excel to log two different nets, and routinely export the logs as PDF files.

It works very well.

73
Lyn, WØLEN

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To: K8TE
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test

I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely?

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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M0XDF

Re: Excel Test

Sorry, was this just about a way to display what was logged, in which case PDF would be good, or was it about a way to provide a plain text version of what was logged?

73 de David, M0XDF

> On 24 Feb 2020, at 20:20, Lyn Norstad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I use Excel to log two different nets, and routinely export the logs as PDF files.
>
> It works very well.
>
> 73
> Lyn, WØLEN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 12:08 PM
> To: K8TE
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
>
> I don’t need to tell you that’s horrid! CSV would be better, surely?
>
> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
> --
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>
>> On 24 Feb 2020, at 17:59, K8TE <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> This is a test to determine if pasting from Excel will provide a readable
>> format. I created this message using the "Post New Message" capability at
>> the Elecraft Nabble page. I copied from an Excel worksheet I created this
>> morning by copying and pasting from an RBN result. Per Nabble's
>> instructions, I checked the "Message is in HTML Format" box. If it works,
>> this could be useful for the proposed Elecraft Net logged in Excel, or
>> perhaps other programs.73, Bill, K8TEde dx freq cq/dx snr speed timeEA5WU
>> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 4 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebCT7ANO K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 5 31 wpm
>> 1731z 24 FebW4AX K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebK3PA K8TE 14060.6
>> CW CQ 5 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebEA8BFK K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 6 31 wpm 1732z 24
>> FebHA7GN K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 7 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebJ68HZ K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ
>> 9 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebW3LPL K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 10 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebW1NT
>> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 11 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN7TR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 12 30 wpm
>> 1731z 24 FebKM3T-2 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW1NT-6 K8TE
>> 14060.5 CW CQ 14 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKM3T K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 15 30 wpm 1730z
>> 24 FebK2DB K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW8WTS K8TE 14060.5 CW
>> CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6AO K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 16 28 wpm 1730z 24
>> FebK9LC K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 16 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK2PO/7 K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ
>> 18 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebN2QT K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebKC0VKN
>> K8TE 14060.6 CW CQ 18 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW4KAZ K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 31
>> wpm 1730z 24 FebCT7AHV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 19 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebN9YKE K8TE
>> 14060.5 CW CQ 22 31 wpm 1730z 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.7 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z
>> 24 FebW7HR K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebK1TTT K8TE 14060.5 CW
>> CQ 24 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3UA K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 26 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW3OA
>> K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 28 30 wpm 1731z 24 FebWZ7I K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 29 30 wpm
>> 1730z 24 FebVE7CC K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 33 30 wpm 1730z 24 FebW9XG K8TE
>> 14060.6 CW CQ 35 31 wpm 1731z 24 FebWE9V K8TE 14060.4 CW CQ 35 28 wpm 1730z
>> 24 FebW8WWV K8TE 14060.5 CW CQ 35 29 wpm 1730z 24 FebVE6WZ K8TE 14060.6 CW
>> CQ 45 30 wpm 1730z 24 Feb
>>
>>
>>
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chrisrut

Re: Excel Test

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Walter,

Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-)

73 Chris NW6V

On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back
> into a cow."
>
>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Excel Test

Yes, but .pdf preserves the author's content and formatting and is
viewable by anyone using Adobe Reader (free).
LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf document.
I don't know about Microsoft Office since I don't use it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2020 11:04 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where text goes to die.
>
> wunder
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rich hurd WC3T

Re: Excel Test

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In my day job, I do Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) work. Most of it
involves PDFs of the standards that the trading partner uses, and more
often than I would like, I see the PDFs containing sample data (which in an
ideal world are actual text data, because we have to send them through a
process called "translation" that takes ASCII and little else as input.)

Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File
which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does!
It saves the PDF as a text document. What a Godsend. I do not know when
this started, but there's a special place in heaven for the person who came
up with this function to Adobe Reader.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:04 AM Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where
> text goes to die.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Chris R. NW6V <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Walter,
> >
> > Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-)
> >
> > 73 Chris NW6V
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back
> >> into a cow."
> >>
> >>
> >>
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James Walker

Re: Excel Test

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I would say it differently. I would say PDF is where text goes to be read. I decline to download any text file that’s not PDF. Too risky. It's amazing to me how many people will send out a file in a proprietary format like Microsoft Word and expect all the recipients to be able to read it.

Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA

> On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I got it from somebody else. Before I heard this, I said that PDF is where text goes to die.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Chris R. NW6V <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Walter,
>>
>> Bravo!. :-) I'm going to steal this line... :-)
>>
>> 73 Chris NW6V
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:09:02 -0800 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Turning a PDF back into structured text is like turning hamburger back
>>> into a cow."
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Excel Test

If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install
LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to
Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file
produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2020 11:31 AM, James Walker wrote:
> I would say it differently. I would say PDF is where text goes to be read. I decline to download any text file that’s not PDF. Too risky. It's amazing to me how many people will send out a file in a proprietary format like Microsoft Word and expect all the recipients to be able to read it.
>
> Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA
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Re: Excel Test

In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to download and use.
The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker app will have updated it to run on the new OS.
I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink.
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211

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From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
To: James Walker <[hidden email]>; Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
Cc: elecraft reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test

If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install
LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to
Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file
produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format.

73,
Don W3FPR

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James Walker

Re: Excel Test

I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format that we all have in common. Why use some more proprietary or exotic format to transmit something that does not need the features of these programs you suggest. If I only need them to read the message, I'd rather use what I have and avoid the complexities of downloading new software. I think it is correct to say that any word processing software can create a PDF document for simple text. Why must a user be forced download a new program when a little bit of an attention to detail can create a document everyone can read?

Jimmy Walker, WA4ILO, Macon, GA

> On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to download and use.
> The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker app will have updated it to run on the new OS.
> I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink.
> 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> To: James Walker <[hidden email]>; Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> Cc: elecraft reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2020 11:44 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excel Test
>
> If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install
> LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to
> Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file
> produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
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k6dgw

Re: Excel Test

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Apache OpenOffice Writer will export to PDF too.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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On 2/26/2020 8:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Yes, but .pdf preserves the author's content and formatting and is
> viewable by anyone using Adobe Reader (free).
> LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf
> document. I don't know about Microsoft Office since I don't use it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

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Alan Bloom

Re: Excel Test

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On 2/26/20 8:25 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File
> which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does!
>

You can also just highlight the text you want in the PDF document and
copy/paste it into another document.

The only time you can't extract text from a PDF is if the PDF was made
from a scanned image. (Actually, you can buy software that can read
text from an image, but I don't know how accurate it is.)

Alan N1AL

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Re: Excel Test

I can find strings in a PDF with the Premium version of Evernote also.
And that's my last comment as we've gotten far afield from the subject. :)

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:10 PM Alan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 2/26/20 8:25 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> > Adobe Reader - at least the version I have - has a menu option under File
> > which is "Save as Other..." and the only option is Text. And it does!
> >
>
> You can also just highlight the text you want in the PDF document and
> copy/paste it into another document.
>
> The only time you can't extract text from a PDF is if the PDF was made
> from a scanned image. (Actually, you can buy software that can read
> text from an image, but I don't know how accurate it is.)
>
> Alan N1AL
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Re: Excel Test

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On 2/26/2020 8:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> LibreOffice will reliably export a .doc or .xml file as a .pdf document.

Yes. That's my method. I usually work in a old versions of Word and
Quattro Pro, then use Libre Office to generate the pdf. The thing to
watch out for is that Libre Office can make changes in formatting,
fonts, etc. that need to be corrected, so I always check the pdf before
putting it on my website.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Excel Test

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I echo the recommendation for OpenOffice. I also own MS Office 2010 but
OpenOffice is actually more up to date, and as you say, it's free. As
an example, I recently had a need to be able to use hyperbolic sine
functions on complex numbers for some transmission line calculations.
Excel didn't add that capability until after 2010, while Open Office
Calc has them. MS Office 2010 will be the last version I ever buy, or
"lease" now that it is cloud based.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 2/26/2020 9:56 AM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote:

> In addition to Libre Office, there still is Open Office (now supported by The Apache Software Foundation).It appears that at some point the original Open Office morphed into Libre Office... and AFAIK, all the generated files from each application are compatible with each other, and will permit you to export a new file in Word (or other MS App) format. Open Office is free to download and use.
> The latest version rescued me when I had to update my Mac's OS and I wanted to be able to open older files. The bane of updating an OS is the risk that some older app that you still need or use will "break" under the new OS. At that point, you have to hope that the original developer of that now broker app will have updated it to run on the new OS.
> I had that situation with EchoMac... a compatible version of EchoLink.
> 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211
>
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> If you do not have Microsoft Word, then you should download and install
> LibreOffice. It is a full Office suite that is quite similar to
> Microsoft Office. And it is free to use. It will read any file
> produced by MS Office, and it also exports to .pdf format.
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Re: Excel Test

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In Office 365 (Excel) the “Save As” file types include both ‘text (MS-DOS) .txt, and ‘pdf’ and many other types.

Saving as ‘txt’ will allow opening of the generated txt file, then to copy and paste into an email.

The following 4 lines were originally in an excel file, converted to a txt, then copied from the txt file into this email.

1.2G       19-Oct-2019        0349       579         DL3EBJ 579
1.2G       19-Oct-2019        0357       589         G3LTF    579
1.2G       19-Oct-2019        0402       559         SP7DCS 559
1.2G       19-Oct-2019        0412       589         SP6JLW 579

I no longer have MS-Excel to see if this is possible using that sw.

Ben W4SC

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Re: Excel Test

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I must respectfully disagree.

Often, PDF is read-only. Sometimes you can break that, sometimes you can't.

You need a PDF reader. I suspect we all have them, but you can't open
it in most word processors.

Rich Text Format (.rtf) is pretty much universal, can be opened (and
edited) by every word processor I'm aware of, and because it does not
have a macro facility, it doesn't carry malware.

73 -- Lynn

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> I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format that we all have in common.
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K3S Transmit on LSB causes popup on USB

Several of us K3S users have noticed a brief intermittent popup on USB when on 80M LSB. It seems to have something to do with transmit ALC settings, but can't get rid of it.
It also happens most with higher in frequency voice syllables.
One operator switched from his KS3 to a 7300 and the USB was clean.
Any ideas?

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Re: Excel Test

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You can open and edit pdf files using WORD 2016

Joe KK5NA
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On 2/28/2020 7:17 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> I must respectfully disagree.
>
> Often, PDF is read-only. Sometimes you can break that, sometimes you
> can't.
>
> You need a PDF reader. I suspect we all have them, but you can't open
> it in most word processors.
>
> Rich Text Format (.rtf) is pretty much universal, can be opened (and
> edited) by every word processor I'm aware of, and because it does not
> have a macro facility, it doesn't carry malware.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 2/26/20 9:13 AM, James Walker wrote:
>> I know all about the alternatives to Microsoft word. I actually have
>> Microsoft word. The point is that PDF is the most accessible format
>> that we all have in common.
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