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Jim Rogers, W4ATK

Re: FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

Aha!

Now we have the motive behind the postings on this subject. So if I understand this, we are to be comfortable when one uses a reflector provided by a manufacturer in an attempt to influence that manufacturer's pricing of their product. I am sure I am not the only one who had such suspicions, but to see it so callously admitted to is amazing.

Jim, W4ATK
On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Adrian wrote:

> Why irrelevant? The ten tec amp is a very good match for the KX3, let's
> learn about it, then see what Elecraft offer's to better this
> deal in hardware and price.
>
> That's what it is about, letting Elecraft know the benchmark, but I'm sure
> they have done their research because they are smart.
>
> So if you think it's irrelevant pull your head outa the sand, and don't be
> like the Ostrich.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier
>
> Hi All,
>
> Actually, I think this thread is totally relevant to this reflector given
> the fact that it has the capability of mating nicely to the KX3! It's not
> like we are discussing something that bears absolutely no relationship to an
> Elecraft product.
>
> In any event, I would add a few comments about the new Ten-Tec amp. I do
> agree it seems to be very "aggressively" priced--in the wrong direction--but
> that's Ten-Tec's call. I can't honestly say whether or not it is justified,
> but apparently the folks in Sevierville think it is.
>
> A good friend of mine, W5JAY, was a field tester on this amp, and he and I
> did some on the air testing with it while he had it. I know Jay was
> reasonably impressed with the product, and he doesn't give positive
> impressions easily. I was actually going to do some "hands on" testing of
> it after Jay was done, but I had to decline because of our pending trip up
> here to the northwest. Besides, I don't think I could have added much to
> the process since Jay is very good at putting equipment through it's paces.
> Anyway, what I "heard" sounded very good, and what Jay was seeing first hand
> seemed to suggest that the amp was a good product. I also saw it at Dayton,
> and it does, indeed, appear to have a lot of redeeming features.
>
> I have every reason to assume that the upcoming Elecraft amp will very
> effectively compete with Ten-Tec's product. I'm sure most of us hope it
> will compete effectively as to price as well. I'd be hard pressed to
> justify Ten-Tec's pricing in my budget, but I also have a couple of options
> on hand already. Heck! I even still have my old Ten-Tec 405 linear, from
> my days of operating with the original Argonauts. In any event, it will be
> up to Elecraft to make their product more desirable, and I wouldn't bet they
> won't do it. I'm thinking, but I just can't bring any Elecraft product to
> mind that didn't have, when it was introduced, some really unique and
> intriguing features to it.
>
> Anyway, while I know there is a very large amount of interest in an amp like
> this, given the incredible success of the KX3, I'd be very reluctant to jump
> on Ten-Tec's offering before I knew for sure just what the Elecraft is going
> to offer. I think we've already been given a bunch of clues about close
> compatibility. For just a small example, look at the instructions for the
> KX3 regarding antenna selection and tuner operation. We've all heard it
> said that "patience is a virtue", and this may be a very good opportunity to
> learn how true that is.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> N3KHK Said:
>
> Hi all
>
> Is this the TEN-TEC reflector?
>
> Enough on this topic PLEASE, PLEASE.
>
> Will someone create a new group just for this new amp?
>
> 73 ES CUL DE N3KHK
>
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Raymond Sills

Re: FW: TEN-TEC announces new amplifier

In reply to this post by Vic Rosenthal

HI Vic:

True... you probably could brew up an amp for less money. Looking at
the commercial market, there is an Ameritron amp for $800.. which
includes the power supply, too. It uses 3 type 811 tubes. Now...
it's rated at 600W PEP with 100W drive. So, with 10W drive, it's
output would be well less than 100W most likely. But then... it
wouldn't be an Elecraft amp. And it doesn't work on 6 meters.

While the new Ten Tec amp requires a DC power supply, which would be
an extra cost for base station use, it does work on 6 meters and it
quite compact. I suspect that the KXPA3 will be priced in the same
ballpark. Both the Elecraft and the Ten Tec amps would work nicely as
mobile amps, since both will have frequency sensing, meaning you could
mount them in a vehicle trunk or similar out-of-the-way location.

73 de Ray
K2ULR

On Aug 12, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:

> If a 100w amplifier has to cost $800, then it is going to be
> difficult to market. Just my
> unsubstantiated gut feeling.
>
> Personally, if I had a KX3 and wanted 100 watts when operating from
> my shack, I would
> throw something together from the junk box, probably with vacuum
> tubes. But that's just me :-)
>
> On 8/12/2012 7:27 AM, Keith-K5ENS wrote:
>> And you think the KXPA100 is going to sell for much less. Internal
>> unit KPA3
>> is $500. Look at the pix of the KXPA100 and I can see $200-300 to
>> enclose
>> it in that case.
>>
>> Keith, XE3/K5ENS
>
>
> --
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
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