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* Many of us did not order the cable from Elecraft. I had three already and they all work fine with any of my computers (OS X 10.9, Win 7, Win 8.1) and all work well with the K3 and it's line -- excepting the KX3 and KAT500 which have a non-DB9 connector. * Several here have already said they are using Win XP, best I recall -- so assuming an up-to-date computer just because someone has a K3 is "optimistic". 73, Phil w7ox On 4/14/14, 1:33 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: > Whatever is the problem? I bought the adapter > from Elecraft - thus assuring me that it will > work as it is supposed to. It works with > whatever computer I have plugged in at the time > - running an old version of HRD and the current > stuff from Elecraft. > > So far as supporting old OS? What for? As in: > You are running a very fine rig (K3), so I would > assume a good (read as modern up-to-date) > computer is also used in the shack - hence no > legacy issues. > > Perhaps I am missing the point of this thread? > > Bill K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/14/2014 12:40 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
> The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top > computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top > computer and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If > anyone knows differently, please let us in on the info. They are available using a device variously called a "Port Converter" or "Docking Station". In addition, there is a genuine serial port on a slightly older Dell laptop that we use for our hospital's packet circuits. It's doable. -- -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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>> The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top
>> computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top >> computer and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If >> anyone knows differently, please let us in on the info. > They are available using a device variously called a "Port Converter" or "Docking Station". > In addition, there is a genuine serial port on a slightly older Dell > laptop that we use for our hospital's packet circuits. It's doable. I use the "E-Legacy Extender" to add a real serial I/O port to current model Dell Latitude E-series laptops. I also have a Dell Latitude E6420 XFR ruggedized laptop with built-in serial port, but it surprisingly is implemented using a built-in USB-serial converter, as opposed to a "real" I/O port. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Real serial ports are available on the Dell D810. This will also run W7
32 bit without problems (at least none that I have found). I have used it to program Motorola, Icom and Yaesu radios so far. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Folks - we are exceeding the normal posting limit for this thread subject. Let's
let it rest for now. 73, Eric List Moderator, Modulator and Therapist.. elecraft.com === On 4/14/2014 3:35 PM, Philip Carter wrote: > Real serial ports are available on the Dell D810. This will also run W7 32 > bit without problems (at least none that I have found). I have used it to > program Motorola, Icom and Yaesu radios so far. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The point is that though Elecraft sells dongles and no doubt does its best to buy genuine dongles, they do not generate enough revenue for Elecraft to make a lot of guarantees. I bought one of Elecraft's dongles when I bought my K3 in 2007. It worked well with the XP computer that I used then. It did not work when I upgraded to Win 7, but I would not expect Elecraft to guarantee that it would work with an operating system that was not available when the dongle was sold. All I have heard is advise to buy dongles from reputable dealers, but how do you identify the reputable dealer. I think we can all agree that Elecraft qualifies as a reputable dealer, but I bought the dongle from Elecraft and at the time no one knew what was happening so I bought an RS-232 card and eliminated the dongle for my desk top, but I don't know how to find a reputable dealer to buy a dongle for my new Chinese made Lenovo lap top. Some information, such as I bought a
SkyBlue dongle from ABC Company for $129.95 and it worked prefectly in my Win 7 machine from Bangladesh Computer Company would be helpful. I have not seen any such advise here. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart ________________________________ From: Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips Likely the point is: * Many of us did not order the cable from Elecraft. I had three already and they all work fine with any of my computers (OS X 10.9, Win 7, Win 8.1) and all work well with the K3 and it's line -- excepting the KX3 and KAT500 which have a non-DB9 connector. * Several here have already said they are using Win XP, best I recall -- so assuming an up-to-date computer just because someone has a K3 is "optimistic". 73, Phil w7ox On 4/14/14, 1:33 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: > Whatever is the problem? I bought the adapter > from Elecraft - thus assuring me that it will > work as it is supposed to. It works with > whatever computer I have plugged in at the time > - running an old version of HRD and the current > stuff from Elecraft. > > So far as supporting old OS? What for? As in: > You are running a very fine rig (K3), so I would > assume a good (read as modern up-to-date) > computer is also used in the shack - hence no > legacy issues. > > Perhaps I am missing the point of this thread? > > Bill K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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<quote author="WILLIS COOKE-2">
The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows differently, please let us in on the info. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart There may be some companies with the old Lenovos (Think Pad) about 1.5 thick that are being replaced. I don't know where buy maybe you can find some. Maybe eBay if the resellers have them.
Chuck, KE9UW
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The closest thing I have found to real RS232 ports for laptops are the
Edgeport USB converters. I just treat them like a serial port and they seem to work in every way like a real serial port. I use an 8 port in the shack and a 4 when portable. Prices have gone up I hear,I paid about $70 for the pair off of Ebay. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:11 AM, ke9uw <[hidden email]> wrote: > > The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top > computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer > and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows > differently, please let us in on the info. > > Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman > K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart > > There may be some companies with the old Lenovos (Think Pad) about 1.5 > thick > that are being replaced. I don't know where buy maybe you can find some. > Maybe eBay if the resellers have them. > > > > ----- > Chuck, KE9UW > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Fake-FTDI-chips-tp7587050p7587277.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- Jim K0XU [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I use a 2 port PCI serial board in my desktop with a single (prolific) USB to Serial to handle 2 radios and the FSK for RTTY.
When i go portable with my laptop i use a Moxa Uport 1410 4 port USB to serial. It has worked fine for me at JOTA and Field day events. I keep it all in a travel case so when i go somewhere i just disconnect my K3 and leave all cables etc. all are replicated in my travel box. It is a seamless (almost) operation. The Moxa works great for me. Barry NF1O > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:11:31 -0700 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips > > > The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top > computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer > and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows > differently, please let us in on the info. > > Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman > K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart > > There may be some companies with the old Lenovos (Think Pad) about 1.5 thick > that are being replaced. I don't know where buy maybe you can find some. > Maybe eBay if the resellers have them. > > > > ----- > Chuck, KE9UW > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Fake-FTDI-chips-tp7587050p7587277.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Cookie,
There *are* good USB to serial adapters. Buy reputable brands from reputable suppliers and you should not have a problem. If you buy one that does not work, it should be returnable as defective if the dealer is reputable. The Elecraft KUSB uses a genuine FTDI chip, so that one should not be a problem. I suspect the 'bargain counter' no-name brands may be the major ones with the fake chips. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/15/2014 9:11 AM, ke9uw wrote: > The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top > computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer > and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows > differently, please let us in on the info. > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hello Don W3FPR,
I need to comment about "reputable brands" relative to USB-to-serial-adapters. Triplett-Keyspan is not reputable, in my opinion. The story goes like this. I have an AIM-4170 analyzer that needs a RS232 connection. The AIM works when connected to a Dell desktop's RS232 port. For portability, I wanted to use the AIM with my Dell laptop and bought a Keyspan adapter. Regrettably, much time went by before I could get back to the hobby and try the Keyspan but I never suspected a big problem would be lurking. Keyspan's USB-adapter, when plugged into the Dell laptop, would not work my AIM-4170 analyzer. So I tried plugging it into the desktop; still would not work. But incredibly, their technical-support put the blame on my AIM. By this time, it is past the warranty period. I bought a Radio-Shack adapter for the laptop; AIM works fine. To finish the story, I bought a HP-desktop. The Keyspan won't work there. For that HP, I also bought from HP a real RS232-card with two ports. The AIM works fine with those ports. So much for Keyspan's adapter and their tech-support. BTW, my KX3 kit came today. 73 Jerry KM3K ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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