Does one ground to earth, the far end of an HF counterpoise or just let it float above ground at a field location? I had always believed it should not be grounded. Gerry Miller, AA2ZJ [hidden email] ____________________________________________________________ 1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines in Seconds Fit Mom Daily http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/593dabef2922e2bef0e3cst02vuc ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
A counterpoise on the ground or buried a short distance [~5-10 cm] is a
low resistance path in parallel with the much higher ground resistance for the return current for unbalanced antennas [verticals, end-fed wires, etc.] They're often called radials or ground-screens, and in general, more is better, but one is a whole lot better than none. The return current decreases rapidly away from the antenna so more shorter radials is usually better than a few longer ones. Such a counterpoise wire is effectively grounded regardless of what you do at the end. If it feels better to tie it to a stake in the ground, by all means do so. An elevated counterpoise is just another element in your antenna. Length matters. For a single wire fed at the end, if the counterpoise is the same length as the wire and elevated, it's a center-fed dipole again [whether or not it is resonant]. In the field, mine lays on the ground and is about 1.5 ft longer than the wire [~25 ft]. If you're next to salt water, toss it in. MF survival radios [500 Kcs] from WW2 had a balloon or kite to raise the wire, and a weighted braid to toss over the side of your raft. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/11/17 1:44 PM, Gerry Miller wrote: > Does one ground to earth, the far end of an HF counterpoise or just let it float above ground at a field location? I had always believed it should not be grounded. > Gerry Miller, AA2ZJ > [hidden email] > ____________________________________________________________ > 1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines in Seconds > Fit Mom Daily > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/593dabef2922e2bef0e3cst02vuc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > -- > This message has been scanned by E.F.A. Project and is believed to be clean. > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
On Sun,6/11/2017 2:28 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> An elevated counterpoise is just another element in your antenna. That's true of ANY counterpoise, whether on the ground or not. In general, higher is better. The closer any part of an antenna is to the ground the more power the ground sucks up that won't be radiated. There is both capacitive and inductive coupling to the earth. Both cause loss. That's why higher is better, and why an earth connection is NOT usually a good thing for signal strength. It IS a good thing at the base of an antenna for lightning safety. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Gerry,
If your purpose for your "counterpoise" is simply to complete the antenna, then it does not make much difference whether it is grounded or not. But if its purpose is to keep RF off the enclosure of the rig, there is a difference. If it is 1/4 wavelength long, then it should not be grounded - just like any 1/4 wavelength wire, it is a low impedance point at the 'shack' end. OTOH, if it is 1/2 wavelength long, ground it to produce a low impedance at the 'shack end. A bit of study on antennas and feedline characteristics may be helpful. The 'counterpoise' acts like an antenna wire. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/11/2017 4:44 PM, Gerry Miller wrote: > > Does one ground to earth, the far end of an HF counterpoise or just let it float above ground at a field location? I had always believed it should not be grounded. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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