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John_N1JM
When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit a
couple of times. Is that normal?

73, John N1JM



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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

k6mkf
Yes, it's normal.   There is a config parameter you can set to eliminate
this behavior.

I can't think of it at the moment, but someone on this list will surely
remember what it is.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

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> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit
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> couple of times. Is that normal?
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Brian Hunt
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Yeah, unfortunately it is.  It's Windoze checking out the serial port
connection.  You can avoid the problem by setting CONFIG:PTT/KEY to
OFF/OFF.  I have one of the PF keys programmed to access that menu item
so I can set it up on the rare occasions I use computer keying (N1MM+).

On 2/8/2018 14:52, John_N1JM wrote:
> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit a
> couple of times. Is that normal?
>
> 73, John N1JM
>
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Brian Hunt
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Yeah, unfortunately it is.  It's Windoze checking out the serial port
connection.  You can avoid the problem by setting CONFIG:PTT/KEY to
OFF/OFF.  I have one of the PF keys programmed to access that menu item
so I can set it up on the rare occasions I use computer keying (N1MM+).

Sorry I mashed the send button before signing off.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

On 2/8/2018 14:52, John_N1JM wrote:
> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit a
> couple of times. Is that normal?
>
> 73, John N1JM
>
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Dave G3WGN M6O
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No need to go into the Config menu.  Put the 'Test' function on by holding
the Mode^ key.  Start up the PC and no TX will occur.
Just don't forget to take the Test mode off again before calling that rare
DX - ask me how I know...
HTH
73, David G3WGN M6O


k6mkf wrote

> Yes, it's normal.   There is a config parameter you can set to eliminate
> this behavior.
>
> I can't think of it at the moment, but someone on this list will surely
> remember what it is.
>
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB
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>> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into
>> transmit
> a
>> couple of times. Is that normal?
>>
>> 73, John N1JM
>>
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Henrik Stenstrom
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All,

The alternative is to switch on computer first, then your K3.

Of course you need to remember to do that, though ...

de VK2HHS

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> On 9 Feb 2018, at 10:05, Brian Hunt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, unfortunately it is.  It's Windoze checking out the serial port connection.  You can avoid the problem by setting CONFIG:PTT/KEY to OFF/OFF.  I have one of the PF keys programmed to access that menu item so I can set it up on the rare occasions I use computer keying (N1MM+).
>
> Sorry I mashed the send button before signing off.
>
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
>
>> On 2/8/2018 14:52, John_N1JM wrote:
>> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit a
>> couple of times. Is that normal?
>>
>> 73, John N1JM
>>
>>
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Cady, Fred-2
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Go to CONFIG:PTT-KEY, tap the 1 key and set USB.SAFE.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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Yes, it's normal.   There is a config parameter you can set to eliminate
this behavior.

I can't think of it at the moment, but someone on this list will surely
remember what it is.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

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> Subject: [Elecraft] Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB
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> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit
a

> couple of times. Is that normal?
>
> 73, John N1JM
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

donovanf
From the description of K3 firmware update dated 8-3-2015
MCU 5.33 / DSP 2.86 / FPF 1.23






PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB
port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port
by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter.
This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the
USB cable is not connected.


The K3S now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY
transmit until the K3S receives a command via the USB port, such
as a read of the K3S VFO frequency.


To turn safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to
select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S
off/on.


Applications that use PTTKEY via USB but never send commands
to the K3S may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted
transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S.


73
Frank
W3LPL

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

Go to CONFIG:PTT-KEY, tap the 1 key and set USB.SAFE.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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Yes, it's normal. There is a config parameter you can set to eliminate
this behavior.

I can't think of it at the moment, but someone on this list will surely
remember what it is.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

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> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit
a

> couple of times. Is that normal?
>
> 73, John N1JM
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Re: Firing up K3 attached to PC via USB

John_N1JM
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Thanks to all. It was in the config menu.

73, John N1JM


John_N1JM wrote

> When firing up my PC with K3s attached and on, the K3s trips into transmit
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