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Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Len,  K3LJ
Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it back on brought everything back to normal.

73,  Len  K3LJ
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Stephen  Prior
Len

I get exactly the same here.  Also using 4.18.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 06/11/2010 11:46, "Len,  K3LJ" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the
> bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find
> that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my
> headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter
> clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no
> visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just
> the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it
> back on brought everything back to normal.
>
> 73,  Len  K3LJ




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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Ken Wagner K3IU
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K3 #202, MCU 4.18, et al.
Similar experience here. Everything normal until I rotate
the APF Shift CW and it reaches 1.00 the loud pops/cracks
begin when rotating both the "Shift" and "Width" knobs.
Rotation of the APF Shift knob now changes the display
numbers (APF 0.xx), but the Rx is very quiet... both
speakers and earphones. Powering K3 OFF/ON returns the K3 to
normal operations. When I cycle back to APF Off (Preset II
on my K3), Rx works normally with sound in both speakers and
earphones. The first time I switched back to Preset I (APF
On) the Rx worked as it should. Subsequently, switching back
to Preset I produces a quiet Rx with only the popping when
the APF Shift or Width being rotated.

73,
Ken K3IU

On 11/6/2010 7:46 AM, Len, K3LJ wrote:

> Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the
> bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find
> that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my
> headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter
> clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no
> visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just
> the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it
> back on brought everything back to normal.
>
> 73,  Len  K3LJ
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Ken Wagner K3IU
After someone else noted that turning the APD Shift CCW it
returned to normal ops when reaching 0.27. I just tested
here and after turning to APF 1.00 and activating the
pops/cracks, turning the APF Shift CCW until it reaches APF
0.20 and returns the APF to normal ops w/o the pops/cracks.
73,
Ken K3IU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 11/6/2010 8:37 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:

> K3 #202, MCU 4.18, et al.
> Similar experience here. Everything normal until I rotate
> the APF Shift CW and it reaches 1.00 the loud pops/cracks
> begin when rotating both the "Shift" and "Width" knobs.
> Rotation of the APF Shift knob now changes the display
> numbers (APF 0.xx), but the Rx is very quiet... both
> speakers and earphones. Powering K3 OFF/ON returns the K3
> to normal operations. When I cycle back to APF Off (Preset
> II on my K3), Rx works normally with sound in both
> speakers and earphones. The first time I switched back to
> Preset I (APF On) the Rx worked as it should.
> Subsequently, switching back to Preset I produces a quiet
> Rx with only the popping when the APF Shift or Width being
> rotated.
>
> 73,
> Ken K3IU
>
> On 11/6/2010 7:46 AM, Len, K3LJ wrote:
>> Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the
>> bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find
>> that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my
>> headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter
>> clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no
>> visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just
>> the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it
>> back on brought everything back to normal.
>>
>> 73,  Len  K3LJ
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Nate Bargmann
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* On 2010 06 Nov 07:06 -0500, Len,  K3LJ wrote:
>
> Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the
> bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find
> that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my
> headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter
> clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no
> visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just
> the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it
> back on brought everything back to normal.

I found that running the APF down to 270 Hz results in a BOOP! and the
APF is restored as with a power reset.

73, de Nate >>

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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Ken Wagner K3IU
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More tests... My previous report was with the sidetone set
to 600 Hz. I set my sidetone pitch to 670 and the point at
which the APF returns to normal moved up to .27  (270 hz). I
now hear the same "boop" as Nate reports and a return to
normal .
73, Ken K3IU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 11/6/2010 9:36 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:

> After someone else noted that turning the APD Shift CCW it
> returned to normal ops when reaching 0.27. I just tested
> here and after turning to APF 1.00 and activating the
> pops/cracks, turning the APF Shift CCW until it reaches APF
> 0.20 and returns the APF to normal ops w/o the pops/cracks.
> 73,
> Ken K3IU
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On 11/6/2010 8:37 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>> K3 #202, MCU 4.18, et al.
>> Similar experience here. Everything normal until I rotate
>> the APF Shift CW and it reaches 1.00 the loud pops/cracks
>> begin when rotating both the "Shift" and "Width" knobs.
>> Rotation of the APF Shift knob now changes the display
>> numbers (APF 0.xx), but the Rx is very quiet... both
>> speakers and earphones. Powering K3 OFF/ON returns the K3
>> to normal operations. When I cycle back to APF Off (Preset
>> II on my K3), Rx works normally with sound in both
>> speakers and earphones. The first time I switched back to
>> Preset I (APF On) the Rx worked as it should.
>> Subsequently, switching back to Preset I produces a quiet
>> Rx with only the popping when the APF Shift or Width being
>> rotated.
>>
>> 73,
>> Ken K3IU
>>
>> On 11/6/2010 7:46 AM, Len, K3LJ wrote:
>>> Gentlemen, thanks for adding the APF to the K3 and the quick response to the
>>> bug that some operators were experiencing. The APF works great. I did find
>>> that while adjusting it when I got to APF 1.0 I heard a click in my
>>> headphones that I am using and as I tried rotating the shift control counter
>>> clockwise or clockwise that I could here the APF "stepping" but there was no
>>> visible indication on the display of it or any receiver audio heard. Just
>>> the clicks as I turned the shift control. Turning off the rig and turning it
>>> back on brought everything back to normal.
>>>
>>> 73,  Len  K3LJ
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Joseph Trombino, Jr
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Same problem here with the new APF in 4.18....tuning SHIFT to 1khz cause APF to click and shut off....repowering K3 restores APF.

Looks like a bug.

                                        73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Richard Squire - HB9ANM
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A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.

But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.

Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are normally required.
Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur on every K3.
Richard - HB9ANM
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Doug Turnbull
Richard and fellows,
    I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
experience the difficulty in the original testing.

           73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
HB9ANM
Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control


A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.

But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.

Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
normally required.
Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
on every K3.


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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Mike Reublin
With 4.17 I had a slight drop in SSB, but no encoder popping/deafness.
With 4.18 I get the pops at 1.00, it goes away with a "boop" at .270.

It takes a tad (an IEEE term. 1 tad = 3.75 skosh) over 5 minutes to load either one
at 4800 baud. My impression is that's a lot longer than previous versions, but I
never timed any of them.

73 Mike NF4L

On 11/6/2010 2:53 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

> Richard and fellows,
>      I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
> version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
> obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
> experience the difficulty in the original testing.
>
>             73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
> HB9ANM
> Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
>
>
> A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
> experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
> has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.
>
> But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
> exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
> are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.
>
> Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
> normally required.
> Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
> on every K3.
>
>
> -----
> Richard - HB9ANM


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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

n7ws
Mine pops LOUDLY at 1 KHz and then the RX audio is dead unless I change the Shift and/or the Width control then it's a machine gun and LOUD.  Glad I did this with the speaker on and not the headphones, I'd be deaf.

Turning APF off doesn't clear the problem either.  Reengaging it makes it operate the same. Power off is the only answer.

Not ready for primetime although the noise gate is much improved, I'll actually use it.  APF, I don't think so.

--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Mike <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 3:53 PM

With 4.17 I had a slight drop in SSB, but no encoder popping/deafness.
With 4.18 I get the pops at 1.00, it goes away with a "boop" at .270.

It takes a tad (an IEEE term. 1 tad = 3.75 skosh) over 5 minutes to load either one
at 4800 baud. My impression is that's a lot longer than previous versions, but I
never timed any of them.

73 Mike NF4L

On 11/6/2010 2:53 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

> Richard and fellows,
>      I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
> version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
> obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
> experience the difficulty in the original testing.
>
>             73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
> HB9ANM
> Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
>
>
> A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
> experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
> has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.
>
> But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
> exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
> are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.
>
> Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
> normally required.
> Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
> on every K3.
>
>
> -----
> Richard - HB9ANM





     
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K3 rev 4.18 requires changes -- do not download

wayne burdick
Administrator
This is why we do beta releases -- sometimes the code isn't ready for  
production release. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Unfortunately Lyle is out of town, so we won't be able to make  
corrections this weekend.

If you have any issues with rev 4.18 (or 4.17), please re-load the  
last production release, rev 4.14. NOTE: You must download a complete  
set of files (MCU, DSP and FPF) when upgrading or downgrading.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Guy, K2AV
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Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.

4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.

73, Guy.

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Doug Turnbull <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Richard and fellows,
>    I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
> version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
> obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
> experience the difficulty in the original testing.
>
>           73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
> HB9ANM
> Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
>
>
> A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
> experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
> has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.
>
> But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
> exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
> are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.
>
> Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
> normally required.
> Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
> on every K3.
>
>
> -----
> Richard - HB9ANM
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Firmware-4-18-APF-adjustment-using-shif
> t-control-tp5711904p5712716.html
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

The Smiths

Please don't be so quick to judge the Alpha testers! We did plenty of testing on this software before it was released for Beta test by the public.  The SSB problem wansn't introduced until the Noise gate issue was changed IN 4.17 (not the alpha test).
I'm sure that Lyle will have everything back in order as soon as he gets back.
 

> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 18:58:57 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> CC: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
>
> Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
> 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
>
> 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
> checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
> found in 4.17. Any problems, reload 4.14.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Doug Turnbull <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Richard and fellows,
> >    I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
> > version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
> > obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
> > experience the difficulty in the original testing.
> >
> >           73 Doug EI2CN
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
> > HB9ANM
> > Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control
> >
> >
> > A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
> > experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
> > has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.
> >
> > But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
> > exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
> > are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.
> >
> > Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
> > normally required.
> > Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
> > on every K3.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Richard - HB9ANM
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Firmware-4-18-APF-adjustment-using-shif
> > t-control-tp5711904p5712716.html
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Don Wilhelm-4
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  Guy,

Firmware 4.18 is still available at the Elecraft website - it was 4.17
that has been pulled AFAIR.
Yes, 4.18 has some problems that have been identified on this reflector,
but for those who are willing to work around those problems, I am
certain the firmware folks at Elecraft would like to have feedback of
any other problems discovered.

Those who wish to "play it safe" should definitely retreat to 4.14
(install all the files), but for those who are a bit more adventuresome,
try out the APF and the improved noise gate, etc. as long as you are
willing to work around the limitations that have been identified so far.

I often use beta releases of software, and I do expect a few glitches
when I do - I figure that is my "cost" for trying something new.  The
good thing about Elecraft is that they do respond to identified problems
in a timely manner (unlike some others).  Lyle will certainly be busy
when he gets finished with his weekend!  Let's provide him with
information on any other glitches that might show up.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2010 6:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
> 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
>
> 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
> checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
> found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
>From Wayne:
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 rev 4.18 requires changes -- do not download
[11/6/2010 22:26Z]

Anyway, I've retreated to 17m CW to escape the SS hordes, and it is wide
open to east Asia... APF working great in 4.18 as long as you don't shift
above 1.00 kHz (why would you ever want to?) This will get fixed in short
order.

BTW, if you DO turn shift to 1.00, you don't have to recycle power. Just
turn SHIFT back the other way until the clicking stops, then return to your
chosen passband shift point...

Bill W5WVO


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 23:23
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

  Guy,

Firmware 4.18 is still available at the Elecraft website - it was 4.17
that has been pulled AFAIR.
Yes, 4.18 has some problems that have been identified on this reflector,
but for those who are willing to work around those problems, I am
certain the firmware folks at Elecraft would like to have feedback of
any other problems discovered.

Those who wish to "play it safe" should definitely retreat to 4.14
(install all the files), but for those who are a bit more adventuresome,
try out the APF and the improved noise gate, etc. as long as you are
willing to work around the limitations that have been identified so far.

I often use beta releases of software, and I do expect a few glitches
when I do - I figure that is my "cost" for trying something new.  The
good thing about Elecraft is that they do respond to identified problems
in a timely manner (unlike some others).  Lyle will certainly be busy
when he gets finished with his weekend!  Let's provide him with
information on any other glitches that might show up.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2010 6:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
> 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
>
> 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
> checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
> found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
Both beta 4.17 and 4.18 have now been removed from the web site. 4.14 is the latest current release.

Ever try editing a web page while in motion from an iPad? Fortunately my wife is driving, but road bumps make typing and screen editing interesting..


Eric
www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Guy,
>
> Firmware 4.18 is still available at the Elecraft website - it was 4.17
> that has been pulled AFAIR.
> Yes, 4.18 has some problems that have been identified on this reflector,
> but for those who are willing to work around those problems, I am
> certain the firmware folks at Elecraft would like to have feedback of
> any other problems discovered.
>
> Those who wish to "play it safe" should definitely retreat to 4.14
> (install all the files), but for those who are a bit more adventuresome,
> try out the APF and the improved noise gate, etc. as long as you are
> willing to work around the limitations that have been identified so far.
>
> I often use beta releases of software, and I do expect a few glitches
> when I do - I figure that is my "cost" for trying something new.  The
> good thing about Elecraft is that they do respond to identified problems
> in a timely manner (unlike some others).  Lyle will certainly be busy
> when he gets finished with his weekend!  Let's provide him with
> information on any other glitches that might show up.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/6/2010 6:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
>> 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
>>
>> 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
>> checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
>> found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.
>>
>> 73, Guy.
>>
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Doug Turnbull
Eric and Wayne,
   You are tops and I and many more expect problems with development
firmware.   Thank you for your Trojan efforts!
             73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ -
Elecraft
Sent: 06 November 2010 23:40
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Both beta 4.17 and 4.18 have now been removed from the web site. 4.14 is the
latest current release.

Ever try editing a web page while in motion from an iPad? Fortunately my
wife is driving, but road bumps make typing and screen editing interesting..


Eric
www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Guy,
>
> Firmware 4.18 is still available at the Elecraft website - it was 4.17
> that has been pulled AFAIR.
> Yes, 4.18 has some problems that have been identified on this reflector,
> but for those who are willing to work around those problems, I am
> certain the firmware folks at Elecraft would like to have feedback of
> any other problems discovered.
>
> Those who wish to "play it safe" should definitely retreat to 4.14
> (install all the files), but for those who are a bit more adventuresome,
> try out the APF and the improved noise gate, etc. as long as you are
> willing to work around the limitations that have been identified so far.
>
> I often use beta releases of software, and I do expect a few glitches
> when I do - I figure that is my "cost" for trying something new.  The
> good thing about Elecraft is that they do respond to identified problems
> in a timely manner (unlike some others).  Lyle will certainly be busy
> when he gets finished with his weekend!  Let's provide him with
> information on any other glitches that might show up.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/6/2010 6:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
>> 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
>>
>> 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
>> checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
>> found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.
>>
>> 73, Guy.
>>
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Re: Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Lu Romero - W4LT
In reply to this post by Len, K3LJ
No way!

Now that I know how to avoid the pops, I will work around them until SS CW
is done and THEN backrev to 4.14.  APF is addictive.  Even with the
ringiness, it works wonders on the ESP QRP signals on 15m.

Don't need good SSB audio until the 20th.  I'm sure Lyle will have it fixed
by then  :)

I'm going to bed now.  See you all at 4am!

W4LT


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift
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Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.

4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.

73, Guy

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