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After watching the video, I went into the shack and opened up all the
adjustments on my bug. And increased the spring tension. I have not been sending near aerobic enough. Now I know what full contact CW looks like. But I don't know if I could ever get used to that buzz note side tone. I will not complain about my K1 note again. At least not for awhile. 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW > > > > > The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH > transmitting > the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4scmlC7tI > > > > Ron AC7AC > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> .especially those who don't care about a pure "sidetone" note - usually > preferring something with a little more character - and for those who like > to hear a real fist instead of a keyer. > > > > The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH transmitting > the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4scmlC7tI > > > > Ron AC7AC > > [snip] > Too bad that most bug users can't even hope to reach the level of Denise's expertise in the use of a bug. Tom N5GE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:47:35 -0700 Content-Language: en-us Thanks for the great link Ron. Too bad that most bug users can't even hope to reach the level of Denise's expertise in the use of a bug. Tom N5GE --------------------------------------------------- You remind me that "anything worth doing is worth doing badly at first". That's the only way to learn, especially when individual skill is required. I noticed that even Denise can have a "sticky dash" now and again after she tires just a bit. Note that she'd provided food for the gathering, and was at the RX site at Point Reyes from before 1500, with a lot of people going through, and she had to get to the TX site in Bolinas, which is a fun ride on a motorcycle in daylight, but otherwise not so much. 73, doug ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> .especially those who don't care about a pure "sidetone" note - usually > preferring something with a little more character - and for those who like > to hear a real fist instead of a keyer. > > The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH transmitting > the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4scmlC7tI Wow! Incredible sending, and almost 6 minutes with only 2 (corrected) errors. I hereby promise to use my bug exclusively until I get 1/10th as good. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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With all the computers and keyboards and automatic QSO contesting
software and automatic QSLs, we've turned CW into just another digital mode. Don't need a stinkin' computer to run CW. There should be a requirement in CW contests that a manual key be used, and logs be handwritten. Otherwise why not make those contests yet another PSK31 or Olivia something or other. Anyone can type. Anyone, and even their mother, can read CW from decoding software and do automatic logging. Let digital be digital. And CW be MECHANICAL. It's only reasonable :-) Grant/NQ5T On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> .especially those who don't care about a pure "sidetone" note - >> usually >> preferring something with a little more character - and for those >> who like >> to hear a real fist instead of a keyer. >> >> The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH >> transmitting >> the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4scmlC7tI > > Wow! Incredible sending, and almost 6 minutes with only 2 > (corrected) errors. I hereby > promise to use my bug exclusively until I get 1/10th as good. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wow. She's really amazing.
On your point Grant, to each, his/her own approach... What ever makes you happy and most efficient. Being a professional computer programmer, I see as art good code that can accurately decode the broad variety of "fists" - be they electronically computer generated or produced with a hand key. Just another perspective... Doug -- K0DXV Grant Youngman wrote: > With all the computers and keyboards and automatic QSO contesting > software and automatic QSLs, we've turned CW into just another digital > mode. Don't need a stinkin' computer to run CW. > > There should be a requirement in CW contests that a manual key be > used, and logs be handwritten. Otherwise why not make those contests > yet another PSK31 or Olivia something or other. Anyone can type. > Anyone, and even their mother, can read CW from decoding software and > do automatic logging. Let digital be digital. And CW be MECHANICAL. > > It's only reasonable :-) > > Grant/NQ5T > > > On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > > >> Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> >>> .especially those who don't care about a pure "sidetone" note - >>> usually >>> preferring something with a little more character - and for those >>> who like >>> to hear a real fist instead of a keyer. >>> >>> The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH >>> transmitting >>> the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4scmlC7tI >>> >> Wow! Incredible sending, and almost 6 minutes with only 2 >> (corrected) errors. I hereby >> promise to use my bug exclusively until I get 1/10th as good. >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I forgot to add -- each participant should be required to disconnect
all internet (cable, fiber, dial-up) modems, and find the darn DX stations on their own instead of just clicking on cluster spots someone else found. You have ears and a tuning knob -- use them both. It's the equivalent of all the sports "doping" everyone gets otherwise uptight, red-faced and grumbles about. Not in radio, though .. we worship the tech advantage. Good computer code IS art. Most computer code is "structured", and called "science" so someone can sell big thick books :-) But that isn't the point. I'd relish an actual contest that looked more like SKN on steroids -- without the steroids, and a Windows/Linux free zone. (One, luddite's opine). :-) Grant/NQ5T On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Doug Person wrote: > Wow. She's really amazing. > > On your point Grant, to each, his/her own approach... What ever makes > you happy and most efficient. Being a professional computer > programmer, > I see as art good code that can accurately decode the broad variety of > "fists" - be they electronically computer generated or produced with a > hand key. Just another perspective... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: For All CW Enthusiasts... - Denice in Action
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On 7/23/2009 10:57 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> .especially those who don't care about a pure "sidetone" note - > usually preferring something with a little more character - and > for those who like to hear a real fist instead of a keyer. > The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH > transmitting the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" > activity. Yes - as the comment went - it's scary to watch her work! DA has always had a special place of respect in my CW heart from the time when I was the RI at the FCC SF office. Sorry that I missed the N-o-N this year. Too bad that my arm and shoulder neuropathy and assorted "itis-es" keep me from doing "real" CW now. Keyboarding is not quite the same. PS - how fast was she sending the closing message? -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> The sender is Denise Stoops, the first female operator at KPH transmitting > the closing message at the recent "Night of Nights" activity. I managed to get a 6MHz KPH QLB into K6KPH this last NoN on my K3, I think on 40m ... they're about 120 mi from me. I think I surprised them, it took a bit to answer, and after I was finished, a whole bunch showed up which probably kept them busy. Chris, K6DBG who was there told me later he saw me in their log. I'm not sure but from the fist that answered me, I think it might have been Dick Dillman. A great deal of marine traffic was handled using MCW rather than CW, and I sort of liked to keep the BFO on and offset the beat note from the MCW frequency a bit. Seemed to give a much richer, more easily copied signal. All of the guys on my crew were middle aged, I was 16. They had shiny Vibroplexes in satin-lined wood cases. I had a WW2 surplus J-36 built by Lionel that looked like it had gone ashore at Iwo Jima. I got it for 5 bucks at Sam's Surplus in Los Angeles, it was all I could afford, and I took some grief over it. However, I could slow it down with just the weight whereas they had to add extra weight ... Vibroplexes were/are notoriously hard to slow down. Contrary to what you may think and from the speed DA is sending in Ron's YouTube clip, most traffic was handled much slower at perhaps 15 WPM or less [accuracy before speed], and some ... OK a lot ... of the fists were pretty awful. DA is a huge exception. So were the signals afloat -- drift, huge chirp, massive hum, all at a time [1956-7] when the ham bands were remarkably clean and stable. We should all take pride in that. They may call us "Amateurs," but the label doesn't always apply. 16, a ham for 3 years, working ships at sea on the Holy Frequency with 5KW and huge antennas ... how much better could it get? :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2009 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: For All CW Enthusiasts... - Denice in Action
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Phil asked:
> PS - how fast was she sending the closing message? She was sending at a very consistent rate of just over 100 characters per minute...or a tad more than 20 wpm. Very impressive skill with a bug! Boy I miss the maritime Morse bands, especially that magic MF band of 410 to 518 kcs. Mike / KK5F ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Grant/NQ5T wrote:
>I'd relish an actual contest that looked more like SKN on steroids -- >without the steroids, and a Windows/Linux free zone. Here you go-- straight key, paper log and K2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqnk--BPxD4&feature=channel_page I had to use a computer for the camera... but that was manually zoomed, so everything done by hand, haha... SKCC has two contests every month: use straight key, bug or sideswiper only. 73, Drew AF2Z ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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