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Bob-270

For the CW OPS

A great new use for Morse in a new Google App:

https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
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wayne burdick

Re: For the CW OPS

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April Fool's.

But what the creators of this commercial may not realize is that there
are real Morse apps in use for texting. In California you can't text
and drive, but you could Morse and drive (eyes-free), so there may yet
be a future in this.

Wayne
N6KR

On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Bob wrote:

> A great new use for Morse in a new Google App:
>
> https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html
>
> 73,
> Bob
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ny4g

Re: For the CW OPS

There is a real app out there for the iPhone that uses morse instead of the keyboard

http://iditdahtext.com/iDitDahText.html

although you need an iPhone, and a jailbroken one at that, then you'll find that this app/extension works very well...

73, Ariel

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2012, at 12:38 PM, "Wayne Burdick" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> April Fool's.
>
> But what the creators of this commercial may not realize is that there
> are real Morse apps in use for texting. In California you can't text
> and drive, but you could Morse and drive (eyes-free), so there may yet
> be a future in this.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Bob wrote:
>

Mike Markowski-2

Re: For the CW OPS

I agree that it works well. A couple years ago my then 13 yr old son,
Jonathan kb3rli, and I used it as a chance for him to learn some
electronics because he wanted to key the rig with it. We used 2 op amps
from a quad op amp chip to make an amplifier and a comparator. The ipod
audio was amplified and compared to a voltage. Output of the comparator
went to the gate of an npn transistor to key a rig. So he used his jail
broken ipod (no iphone for a 13 year old!) to key the rig. We also used
only one value of resistors so he could learn about series and
parallel'ing them to get an equiv value. Maybe overkill to use an ipod
as a key, but it was a fun project!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 04/02/2012 12:55 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote:
> There is a real app out there for the iPhone that uses morse instead of the keyboard
>
> http://iditdahtext.com/iDitDahText.html
>
> although you need an iPhone, and a jailbroken one at that, then you'll find that this app/extension works very well...
>
> 73, Ariel
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Kevin Cozens-2

Re: For the CW OPS

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On 12-04-02 11:12 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> But what the creators of this commercial may not realize is that there
> are real Morse apps in use for texting. In California you can't text
> and drive, but you could Morse and drive (eyes-free), so there may yet
> be a future in this.

There could be a future in it for a small segment of the device users. I was
surprised to read that there is (or are) apps that let you use morse. The
video might have been a little more believable if the person portraying the
project lead, Todd Smith, didn't look and sound like the same person who is
in the TV series called "NCIS: Los Angeles".

Add in a second phone and additional app(s) and this could be used to remote
operate an Elecraft radio in CW mode.

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k.igor

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Actually, something like this exists. KS7D made app "K3iNetwork" that allows you to conduct remote CW/Digital QSO from iPhone or any other i-device connected to internet . You just need your K3 connected to computer and computer on internet. It is pretty much like having K3 utility connected to the K3. You do not use dash-dot keys, just type the letters. K3 does rest of the work (decoding etc.)

73,

Igor, N1YX

> Add in a second phone and additional app(s) and this could be used to remote
>operate an Elecraft radio in CW mode.

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Mike Maloney

Re: For the CW OPS

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FYI, Don Huff, W6JL has successfully made a wireless remote paddle/keyer for his all homebrew station. He uses a commercially available IC chip for the TX and RX and it works on UHF link and 2-AA cells for power. Gives freedom to move around the house and workshop along with RF cordless phones while maintaining a good QSO. He said he had no interest in making it for commercial gain, but to our knowledge, no one else has done this.
He freely shared the schematic with me.
Thought it may be worth considering for a possible commercial kit project, since it is a pretty novel application.
73, Mike/ac5p

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From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
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Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 10:12 AM

April Fool's.

But what the creators of this commercial may not realize is that there
are real Morse apps in use for texting. In California you can't text
and drive, but you could Morse and drive (eyes-free), so there may yet
be a future in this.

Wayne
N6KR

On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Bob wrote:

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: For the CW OPS

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The "8 finger keyboard" sounds like some sort of keyboard to key direct
ASCII 8 bit character codes.
It is reminiscent of a keyboard with fewer buttons (I believe it was 6)
that was in trial use at IBM for those people with a handicap (stroke,
etc.) that left them unable to handle a standard keyboard with ease.
Yes, they had to learn the 5 finger "chords", but after doing so, data
entry was not difficult. That was back in the mid to late "80s" - I do
not know the outcome of that device. I did know one gentleman (a
neighbor with whom I carpooled) who used that device successfully.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/3/2012 11:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Years ago, when the Internet was still young, a fellow rode across the USA
> on his bicycle equipped with a solar panel charged the battery of an early
> "laptop" computer. He blogged (the term hadn't been invented yet, IIRC) and
> e-mailed while riding. He did that using an 8-key keyboard operated with the
> fingers of each hand squeezing switches mounted on the grips of his
> handlebars so he never needed to take his attention off of steering with
> both hands. Combinations of squeezes represented every letter on the
> keyboard (no Morse involved, sigh).
>
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Vic Rosenthal

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You are referring to Steve Roberts, this guy: <http://microship.com/>

It's even more amazing than you describe!

On 4/3/2012 8:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> Years ago, when the Internet was still young, a fellow rode across the USA
> on his bicycle equipped with a solar panel charged the battery of an early
> "laptop" computer. He blogged (the term hadn't been invented yet, IIRC) and
> e-mailed while riding. He did that using an 8-key keyboard operated with the
> fingers of each hand squeezing switches mounted on the grips of his
> handlebars so he never needed to take his attention off of steering with
> both hands. Combinations of squeezes represented every letter on the
> keyboard (no Morse involved, sigh).
>
> He had to wait until he found a source of a wired internet connection to
> send his e-mails and blog to his editor documenting his trip.
>
> IIRC he was also a Ham and had at least a 2-meter FM rig on the bike too,
> but it was a long time ago and I may be mixing up two adventures.
>
> But the 8-finger "keyboard" was very interesting.
>
> Ron AC7AC

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Tony Estep

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ...they had to learn the 5 finger "chords"...

============
Yeah, back in the 80s Byte Magazine had a cover story titled "QWERTY is
Dead." The cover picture was a keyboard device that looked sort of like a
turtle, with a single button for each finger of both hands. The idea was
that you made simultaneous multiple presses to make the binary equivalent
of Ascii characters.

For example, A is 0x41. Therefore, you'd press 0100 0001 to make the
capital A, 0100 0010 to make B, etc. The guy who wrote the article was
apparently an expert with this gadget and could type 1 zillion wpm (1
zillion octal that is, not decimal) and therefore he argued that the
standard keyboard would soon be replaced by the turtle contraption.

Tony KT0NY

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N6JW

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Amazing, indeed! Steve, N4RVE, even had a brief encounter with Elecraft!
Scroll down to the bottom of his webpage and search for "elecraft"

73

John, N6JW

<quote author="Vic K2VCO-2">
You are referring to Steve Roberts, this guy: <http://microship.com/>

It's even more amazing than you describe!

On 4/3/2012 8:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Years ago, when the Internet was still young, a fellow rode across the USA
> on his bicycle equipped with a solar panel charged the battery of an early
> "laptop" computer.
<snip>
> IIRC he was also a Ham and had at least a 2-meter FM rig on the bike too,
> but it was a long time ago and I may be mixing up two adventures.
>
> But the 8-finger "keyboard" was very interesting.
>
> Ron AC7AC

Phil Genera

Re: For the CW OPS

I had a tape of an interview he did on a talk show years ago and
thought it was the greatest thing ever (and man, chording straight
ascii? So neat).

The last bike was called 'behemoth' and now sits in the Computer
History Museum in Mountain View, CA (also one of my favorite places
when I was a kid, when it was in Boston and a robot arm would spell
your name in wooden blocks).

Some good shots of the rig here:
http://microship.com/resources/winnebiko-behemoth.html

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 21:44, N6JW <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Amazing, indeed! Steve, N4RVE, even had a brief encounter with Elecraft!
> Scroll down to the bottom of his webpage and search for "elecraft"
>
> 73
>
> John, N6JW
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Rose

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Phil,

The photo of Steve sitting on the ground near the pine trees was taken in
our
yard here in Montana. Steve and Maggie ... his Lady at the time ...
stayed
about week.

73!
Rose - N7HKW
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Phil Genera <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I had a tape of an interview he did on a talk show years ago and
> thought it was the greatest thing ever (and man, chording straight
> ascii? So neat).
>
> The last bike was called 'behemoth' and now sits in the Computer
> History Museum in Mountain View, CA (also one of my favorite places
> when I was a kid, when it was in Boston and a robot arm would spell
> your name in wooden blocks).
>
> Some good shots of the rig here:
> http://microship.com/resources/winnebiko-behemoth.html
>
> --
> Phil, KJ6PON
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 21:44, N6JW <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Amazing, indeed! Steve, N4RVE, even had a brief encounter with Elecraft!
> > Scroll down to the bottom of his webpage and search for "elecraft"
> >
> > 73
> >
> > John, N6JW

Craig Smith

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Steve has done some amazing things with mobile ham gear and computers, especially considering that much of his work was done in the 70s and 80s. Subsequent to his mobile recumbent bicycle projects, last I knew he was working on doing the same with kayak based sailing vessels with extensive computerized control.

Steve stayed overnight with me on one of his cross-country bike trips around 1980 when I lived in upstate NY. We had a common interest both in long distance bicycle touring and ham radio.

If you ever get a chance to hear him speak about his projects, I highly recommend the experience.

73 Craig AC0DS

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