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k6mgo

Fraud

Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to “fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there.

Tnx & 73

Bill, k6mgo

Message: 26
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:13:31 -0800
From: "Bill Ross" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
Message-ID: <0CB07BA4C7B249F7820081CBD65D11A2@rossHP>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross at [hidden email] and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950.
I don?t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around Christmas time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ?s requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. I have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire if the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn?t.
So if anyone see?s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this equipment, please warn them that the ad is a fraud.

Tnx and 73

Bill, k6mgo

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Joe Lynch

Re: Fraud

[hidden email]

73 de Joe, N6CL

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From: Bill Ross <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud

Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to “fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there.

Tnx & 73

Bill, k6mgo

Message: 26
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 18:13:31 -0800
From: "Bill Ross" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
Message-ID: <0CB07BA4C7B249F7820081CBD65D11A2@rossHP>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Just a heads up to all on the list, someone is posing as me, William H. Ross at [hidden email] and listing a K3/P3 station with all equipment for $2950.
I don?t have a P3, but do have a K3 which is not for sale now, around Christmas time, I did post an ad on QRZ listing my K3 for sale, and per QRZ?s requirements, sent a picture of the K3 with a QSL card in the picture to authenticate it which this person copied and posted on QTH with the phony ad. I have received emails and phone calls from several hams wanting to inquire if the ad was on the up and up, which of course, it wasn?t.
So if anyone see?s this ad or hears about anyone wanting to buy this equipment, please warn them that the ad is a fraud.

Tnx and 73

Bill, k6mgo

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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Fraud

Seriously folks.

I retired last year after 23 years running an ISP.

Among other things, AOL is a free E-Mail provider, not unlike Hotmail,
Yahoo or GMail. They can't afford to invest a whole lot of time and
staff into policing their service, especially where the only punishment
they have is to take a free E-Mail address away from someone they can't
possibly track down.

Signing up for a free E-Mail address is 100% anonymous.

They aren't even going to listen to your claim that the E-Mail address
is your callsign plus a commonly used prosign, nor are they going to
agree that "k6mgo" belongs to you in any way at all.

Trying to find someone who will bother to understand that at any big
provider is at least as difficult as teaching a pig to sing.

Trying to find someone who cares would be several orders of magnitude
harder.

They really aren't going to be interested to discover that someone is
using their service fraudulently -- they already know that.

Welcome to the future of the internet.

On the other side of this, they typical "419 scam" has been around since
the early 1800's, and they're easy to detect -- you just have to read
carefully and ask yourself "is this credible." They almost never are.

I learned most of how to avoid these scams in Jr. High School -- in
1969. Yes, there are a few things you can do to test to see if an
E-Mail is genuine, but it starts with critical reading and asking
yourself "does this ring true?"

Sorry if that offends everyone.

73 -- Lynn

On 2/6/2014 1:58 PM, Joe Lynch wrote:

> [hidden email]
>
> 73 de Joe, N6CL
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill Ross <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:03 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Fraud
>
>
> Just to follow-up on my post of last night, I tried to notify AOL of the fraudulent use of my name and call on their email list, by sending a email to “fraud@aol’'.com” but it bounced. I had looked on the AOL website but couldn’t find an address to write to for such matters, so I would appreciate it if anyone on the list knows how to contact AOL without having an account there.
>
> Tnx & 73
>
> Bill, k6mgo
>

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Jim Low man

Re: Fraud

Trying to reach anyone at Yahoo has turned out to be an exercise in
futility.

A good friend owns a nice gift shop nearby. Her old computer died, and
I've been helping her get a new one. It arrived yesterday.

Apparently, her Yahoo e-mail account has been compromised - as have
several others, no doubt.
I couldn't even find a support phone number for Yahoo anywhere on their
website. I had to Google for it.
Then, she kept getting the usual, "Due to heavy calling..." and being
disconnected.

In the meantime, communications from vendors and curious prospective
buyers are piling up in her inbox that she can't access.
Hopefully, they will call her business number when their e-mails are
going unanswered.

The usual, easy way to reset a password doesn't work, because the
compromise apparently points to some cell phone number that isn't hers.
And, she hadn't set up an alternate e-mail address or a security question.

I explained that it's not the best idea to have an e-mail account for
her business with one of these free e-mail providers.
But she's operating on a shoestring, thanks to the state of the economy.

The scary part is that Yahoo is actually the ISP behind my SBCGlobal.net
address. However, AT&T might have better luck with Yahoo if I had a
problem.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 4:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> Seriously folks.
>
> I retired last year after 23 years running an ISP.
>
> Among other things, AOL is a free E-Mail provider, not unlike Hotmail,
> Yahoo or GMail. They can't afford to invest a whole lot of time and
> staff into policing their service, especially where the only
> punishment they have is to take a free E-Mail address away from
> someone they can't possibly track down.
>
> Trying to find someone who will bother to understand that at any big
> provider is at least as difficult as teaching a pig to sing.
>
> Trying to find someone who cares would be several orders of magnitude
> harder.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>