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Ken G Kopp

Freq Ownership

This behavior has been going on as long as SSTV ... and 75M phone.

First thing to do is get on CW. 30M is a fine place to start. I've been
CW (only) since 1951 and primarily on 40M.

Voice modes only require money and a mouth. Jackasses usually need an
audience, and aren't likely to misbehave w/o one.

73

K0PP

On Oct 29, 2017 12:54, "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]> wrote:

I just avoid 20M. Problem solved. There's other bands which respond as
well with fine gentlemen operators, 17M and 30M as examples. If you've not
tried 60M, it is a wonderful relief from the vocabulary found on 40M.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/29/2017 1:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:

> The ownership issue is what almost caused me to sell all my equipment.
> But then diversity from my K3S struck the phenomenal chord and I cannot
> believe how much fun it is. Plus, the 500 watts, helps as well.
>
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-bounces@mailm
> an.qth.net] On Behalf Of GRANT YOUNGMAN
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Babies at play as seen on the P3
>
> Sounds like what happens almost anywhere on the bands if you call cq in
> AM. Apparently all frequencies are now “owned” :-)
>
> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/28/2017 8:42 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like Digital SSTV.
>>>
>> The "babies at play" are a group of SSTV operators who think they own a
>> certain piece of 20M SSB. If you dare to call CQ there, even when it's
>> empty and after asking if the frequency is in use, you'll be bombarded by
>> their transmitters running as much power as they can, intentionally
>> interfering with you.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>
>
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Joe K2UF

Re: Freq Ownership

My only foray into SSB is SSB sweeps (nostalgia). After that weekend I put
the mic away for another year. That is all the SSB I can take for the year.
There are a few foul fist on CW but the wife and grandkids can't copy it so
I can safely leave the radio on speaker (until the wife tells me to "turn
that noise off" ;o( ). You would think after 50 + years she would have
learned to love it.

73,

Joe K2UF

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:23 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Freq Ownership

This behavior has been going on as long as SSTV ... and 75M phone.

First thing to do is get on CW. 30M is a fine place to start. I've been CW
(only) since 1951 and primarily on 40M.

Voice modes only require money and a mouth. Jackasses usually need an
audience, and aren't likely to misbehave w/o one.

73

K0PP

On Oct 29, 2017 12:54, "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]> wrote:

I just avoid 20M. Problem solved. There's other bands which respond as
well with fine gentlemen operators, 17M and 30M as examples. If you've not
tried 60M, it is a wonderful relief from the vocabulary found on 40M.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/29/2017 1:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:

> The ownership issue is what almost caused me to sell all my equipment.
> But then diversity from my K3S struck the phenomenal chord and I
> cannot believe how much fun it is. Plus, the 500 watts, helps as well.
>
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ, FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-bounces@mailm
> an.qth.net] On Behalf Of GRANT YOUNGMAN
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Babies at play as seen on the P3
>
> Sounds like what happens almost anywhere on the bands if you call cq
> in AM. Apparently all frequencies are now "owned" :-)
>
> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/28/2017 8:42 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like Digital SSTV.
>>>
>> The "babies at play" are a group of SSTV operators who think they own
>> a certain piece of 20M SSB. If you dare to call CQ there, even when
>> it's empty and after asking if the frequency is in use, you'll be
>> bombarded by their transmitters running as much power as they can,
>> intentionally interfering with you.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342
>
>
>
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KE8G-2

Re: Freq Ownership

In reply to this post by Ken G Kopp

I can't even get that nostalgic!! I only use SSB for the Ohio QSO Party,
and then the mic goes into hibernation for another year. I find folks to be
much friendlier on CW and that's where I have been for nearly 40 now!!

73 de Jim - KE8G

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe K2UF
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:40 PM
To: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Freq Ownership

My only foray into SSB is SSB sweeps (nostalgia). After that weekend I put
the mic away for another year. That is all the SSB I can take for the year.
There are a few foul fist on CW but the wife and grandkids can't copy it so
I can safely leave the radio on speaker (until the wife tells me to "turn
that noise off" ;o( ). You would think after 50 + years she would have
learned to love it.

73,

Joe K2UF

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:23 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Freq Ownership

This behavior has been going on as long as SSTV ... and 75M phone.

First thing to do is get on CW. 30M is a fine place to start. I've been CW
(only) since 1951 and primarily on 40M.

Voice modes only require money and a mouth. Jackasses usually need an
audience, and aren't likely to misbehave w/o one.

73

K0PP

On Oct 29, 2017 12:54, "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]> wrote:

I just avoid 20M. Problem solved. There's other bands which respond as
well with fine gentlemen operators, 17M and 30M as examples. If you've not
tried 60M, it is a wonderful relief from the vocabulary found on 40M.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/29/2017 1:47 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: