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Louis C. LaCour, Jr.
Hello all:

I had just finished up all the components for the front panel assembly, and
was preparing for the "Front Panel Final Assembly."  After continued
frustration, I decided this wasn't a good night to work on my K2.

Problem 1:

The double-backed tape for the green plastic bargraph filter is simply
impossible to install.  When I opened the serial number envelope to locate
the bargraph filter and tape, I only saw one small, rectangular, brown
"something" that I guessed was the tape.  I then realized it was folded in
two.  Simple enough, right?  I unfolded it and saw the two tape strips.
After some struggle, I managed to release one side of the brown paper, and
went to position it on the bargraph filter.  But then I noticed it was not
long enough; i.e., the manual illustration shows the tape going parallel to
the long side of the filter, edge to edge.  But it was too short to reach
from side to side.  OK, I thought, so what?  It doesn't take much to hold
this little piece of plastic in place.  So I mounted it on the filter, and
then mounted the other strip on the filter.  Now for the fun part.

No matter how hard I tried, I could not remove the OTHER piece of brown
paper; i.e. the back side, to expose the other side of the adhesive (that
would attach to the inside of the panel).  Even using a powerful magnifier
and razor blade, it just couldn't be done.  Am I missing something here?
Sigh.  OK, I'll just skip to the clear plastic LCD bezel, and deal with this
later, I thought....

Problem 2:

The manual calls for the use of four 2-56 screws (stainless steel) to mount
the bezel.  No problem.  I located the screws, lined up the bezel, got my
tiny screwdriver, and proceeded.  But the screw wouldn't start in the hole.
"Could it not be threaded," I thought?!  Sure enough, none of the four holes
is threaded - am I to cut threads in a steel panel with these tiny
screws??!!  I could try it, I suppose, but there's a very good chance
they'll simply strip out the threads.

Maybe the moon's in a bad phase; maybe there are astronomical forces
conspiring against me, but for the first time in 29 pages of instruction
I've come across two steps that are seemingly impossible.  My heretofore
high confidence in Elecraft guidance is on the wane...

So, what gives, guys?  Am I missing something obvious,or should I just take
the night off and pop open a cold one?

73,  Louis
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Re: Front Panel Woes

Stephanie Maks
Hi Louis,

I can't offer advice with Problem 1 as I never used the green filter  
in my K2, but regarding Problem 2:

The front panel is aluminum, not steel, and yes, I'm pretty sure you  
cut the threads with the 2-56 screws.  It's a bit difficult to get  
them started, and - to me at least - a bit anxiety-inducing since you  
don't want to have the screwdriver slip and scratch the acrylic  
bezel.  I've found that using a screwdriver that fits the 2-56 screws  
exactly does help a great deal to control them.  But once you get  
them started, they do seem to go in the rest of the way all right.

73 de Stephanie
va3uxb
K2#5311 - K1#2132


On 14-Feb-2006, at 21.21.34, Louis C. LaCour, Jr. wrote:

> Hello all:
>
> I had just finished up all the components for the front panel  
> assembly, and
> was preparing for the "Front Panel Final Assembly."  After continued
> frustration, I decided this wasn't a good night to work on my K2.
>
> Problem 1:
>
> The double-backed tape for the green plastic bargraph filter is simply
> impossible to install.  When I opened the serial number envelope to  
> locate
> the bargraph filter and tape, I only saw one small, rectangular, brown
> "something" that I guessed was the tape.  I then realized it was  
> folded in
> two.  Simple enough, right?  I unfolded it and saw the two tape  
> strips.
> After some struggle, I managed to release one side of the brown  
> paper, and
> went to position it on the bargraph filter.  But then I noticed it  
> was not
> long enough; i.e., the manual illustration shows the tape going  
> parallel to
> the long side of the filter, edge to edge.  But it was too short to  
> reach
> from side to side.  OK, I thought, so what?  It doesn't take much  
> to hold
> this little piece of plastic in place.  So I mounted it on the  
> filter, and
> then mounted the other strip on the filter.  Now for the fun part.
>
> No matter how hard I tried, I could not remove the OTHER piece of  
> brown
> paper; i.e. the back side, to expose the other side of the adhesive  
> (that
> would attach to the inside of the panel).  Even using a powerful  
> magnifier
> and razor blade, it just couldn't be done.  Am I missing something  
> here?
> Sigh.  OK, I'll just skip to the clear plastic LCD bezel, and deal  
> with this
> later, I thought....
>
> Problem 2:
>
> The manual calls for the use of four 2-56 screws (stainless steel)  
> to mount
> the bezel.  No problem.  I located the screws, lined up the bezel,  
> got my
> tiny screwdriver, and proceeded.  But the screw wouldn't start in  
> the hole.
> "Could it not be threaded," I thought?!  Sure enough, none of the  
> four holes
> is threaded - am I to cut threads in a steel panel with these tiny
> screws??!!  I could try it, I suppose, but there's a very good chance
> they'll simply strip out the threads.
>
> Maybe the moon's in a bad phase; maybe there are astronomical forces
> conspiring against me, but for the first time in 29 pages of  
> instruction
> I've come across two steps that are seemingly impossible.  My  
> heretofore
> high confidence in Elecraft guidance is on the wane...
>
> So, what gives, guys?  Am I missing something obvious,or should I  
> just take
> the night off and pop open a cold one?
>
> 73,  Louis
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RE: Front Panel Woes

Steven Pituch
Hi all,
Louis, if you have to tap the threads with the screw, do it without the
bezel in place.  That way the bezel can't get scratched.  I can't remember
(7 years ago), whether mine were threaded.

Stve, W2MY


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Re: Front Panel Woes

Don Brown-4
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Hi

The double stick tape can be a problem and if you mess it up you can just
use some Scotch double stick tape you can get a an office supply store. You
can even just use regular Scotch Magic tape to tape it to the front panel.
The method I use for the supplied tape is first break the tape on the score
line into two pieces then remove the white paper first and press the tape
and brown paper onto the green filter. I usually make a small about 1/4 inch
45 degree cut on one corner of the filter to clear the front bezel screw.
Then lifting the brown paper off of the green filter should leave the double
stick tape in place on the filter. Finally I carefully align the filter with
the cut out in the front panel and press it down. I then use a Q-tip to
remove any finger prints from both sides of the filter.

The front panels are usually taped for the 2-56 screws but if they are not
the screws have a taper on them so they will cut the threads into the panel
if required. Thread them into the panel first to cut the threads using a
screwdriver that fits properly, I use a large jewelers screwdriver. Be
careful not to over tighten the screws or you will strip the threads you
just made. Then remove the screws and install the Plexiglas bezel. Again do
not over tighten or you will crack the bezel or strip the threads.

Don Brown

KD5NDB



----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis C. LaCour, Jr." <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Front Panel Woes


Hello all:

I had just finished up all the components for the front panel assembly, and
was preparing for the "Front Panel Final Assembly."  After continued
frustration, I decided this wasn't a good night to work on my K2.

Problem 1:

The double-backed tape for the green plastic bargraph filter is simply
impossible to install.  When I opened the serial number envelope to locate
the bargraph filter and tape, I only saw one small, rectangular, brown
"something" that I guessed was the tape.  I then realized it was folded in
two.  Simple enough, right?  I unfolded it and saw the two tape strips.
After some struggle, I managed to release one side of the brown paper, and
went to position it on the bargraph filter.  But then I noticed it was not
long enough; i.e., the manual illustration shows the tape going parallel to
the long side of the filter, edge to edge.  But it was too short to reach
from side to side.  OK, I thought, so what?  It doesn't take much to hold
this little piece of plastic in place.  So I mounted it on the filter, and
then mounted the other strip on the filter.  Now for the fun part.

No matter how hard I tried, I could not remove the OTHER piece of brown
paper; i.e. the back side, to expose the other side of the adhesive (that
would attach to the inside of the panel).  Even using a powerful magnifier
and razor blade, it just couldn't be done.  Am I missing something here?
Sigh.  OK, I'll just skip to the clear plastic LCD bezel, and deal with this
later, I thought....

Problem 2:

The manual calls for the use of four 2-56 screws (stainless steel) to mount
the bezel.  No problem.  I located the screws, lined up the bezel, got my
tiny screwdriver, and proceeded.  But the screw wouldn't start in the hole.
"Could it not be threaded," I thought?!  Sure enough, none of the four holes
is threaded - am I to cut threads in a steel panel with these tiny
screws??!!  I could try it, I suppose, but there's a very good chance
they'll simply strip out the threads.

Maybe the moon's in a bad phase; maybe there are astronomical forces
conspiring against me, but for the first time in 29 pages of instruction
I've come across two steps that are seemingly impossible.  My heretofore
high confidence in Elecraft guidance is on the wane...

So, what gives, guys?  Am I missing something obvious,or should I just take
the night off and pop open a cold one?

73,  Louis
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RE: Front Panel Woes

Don Wilhelm-3
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Louis,

On the 'sticky tape' thing - just position the green stuff properly and
secure with electrical tape.  During Field Test of the K2 we had no double
backed adhesive strip available, and I taped mine in place with black
electrical tape - that was 5 years ago and it is still in fine shape - cut
the tape so it laps onto the aluminum by a generous area, and keep it clear
of the window area.  Alternately, you could apply a bit if some other
adhesive and stick it to the panel - just use it sparingly so it doesn't run
into the viewing window area.

As for the 2-56 holes, yes they are tapped, but there is likely a bit of the
powdercoating material in the holes which will be cleared the first time the
screws are threaded in.  Try one without the plastic in place. or if you do
have a 2-56 tap on hand, try using that (very gently) to cut away the powder
coating.  Should you find that you do have no threads in those holes, I
suggest you contact Scott at Elecraft by phone or email  [hidden email]
to discuss whether or not you have a defective front panel - a rare
occurrance, but not impossible, in all the K2s that I have assembled, I have
encountered 2 bad enclosure parts, so such things can happen, but as I said,
in my experience it is very rare.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -----Original Message-----
>
> I had just finished up all the components for the front panel
> assembly, and
> was preparing for the "Front Panel Final Assembly."  After continued
> frustration, I decided this wasn't a good night to work on my K2.
>
> Problem 1:
>
> The double-backed tape for the green plastic bargraph filter is simply
> impossible to install.  When I opened the serial number envelope to locate
> the bargraph filter and tape, I only saw one small, rectangular, brown
> "something" that I guessed was the tape.  I then realized it was folded in
> two.  Simple enough, right?  I unfolded it and saw the two tape strips.
> After some struggle, I managed to release one side of the brown paper, and
> went to position it on the bargraph filter.  But then I noticed it was not
> long enough; i.e., the manual illustration shows the tape going
> parallel to
> the long side of the filter, edge to edge.  But it was too short to reach
> from side to side.  OK, I thought, so what?  It doesn't take much to hold
> this little piece of plastic in place.  So I mounted it on the filter, and
> then mounted the other strip on the filter.  Now for the fun part.
>
> No matter how hard I tried, I could not remove the OTHER piece of brown
> paper; i.e. the back side, to expose the other side of the adhesive (that
> would attach to the inside of the panel).  Even using a powerful magnifier
> and razor blade, it just couldn't be done.  Am I missing something here?
> Sigh.  OK, I'll just skip to the clear plastic LCD bezel, and
> deal with this
> later, I thought....
>
> Problem 2:
>
> The manual calls for the use of four 2-56 screws (stainless
> steel) to mount
> the bezel.  No problem.  I located the screws, lined up the bezel, got my
> tiny screwdriver, and proceeded.  But the screw wouldn't start in
> the hole.
> "Could it not be threaded," I thought?!  Sure enough, none of the
> four holes
> is threaded - am I to cut threads in a steel panel with these tiny
> screws??!!  I could try it, I suppose, but there's a very good chance
> they'll simply strip out the threads.
>
> Maybe the moon's in a bad phase; maybe there are astronomical forces
> conspiring against me, but for the first time in 29 pages of instruction
> I've come across two steps that are seemingly impossible.  My heretofore
> high confidence in Elecraft guidance is on the wane...
>
> So, what gives, guys?  Am I missing something obvious,or should I
> just take
> the night off and pop open a cold one?
>
> 73,  Louis
>

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Re: Front Panel Woes

Stephanie Maks
On 15-Feb-06, at 09.15 .15, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> As for the 2-56 holes, yes they are tapped, but there is likely a  
> bit of the
> powdercoating material in the holes which will be cleared the first  
> time the
> screws are threaded in.

Really?  In both my K1 and K2, I could have sworn they were not  
tapped.  As you say though, maybe the threads were just full of the  
grey paint and I didn't notice.

73 de Stephanie
va3uxb
K2#5311 - K1#2132



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RE: Front Panel Woes

Tom Hammond-3
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All:

Try running the screws in from the BACK SIDE... less chance of
encountering the powder coating until the threads have already been
engaged and thus, you'll 'chase' the rest of the coating out the
front of the panel, rather than risk attempting to cut your own (new) threads.

73,

Tom


At 08:15 AM 2/15/2006, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>As for the 2-56 holes, yes they are tapped, but there is likely a bit of the
>powdercoating material in the holes which will be cleared the first time the
>screws are threaded in.  Try one without the plastic in place. or if you do
>have a 2-56 tap on hand, try using that (very gently) to cut away the powder
>coating.  Should you find that you do have no threads in those holes, I
>suggest you contact Scott at Elecraft by phone or email  [hidden email]
>to discuss whether or not you have a defective front panel - a rare
>occurrance, but not impossible, in all the K2s that I have assembled, I have
>encountered 2 bad enclosure parts, so such things can happen, but as I said,
>in my experience it is very rare.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > I had just finished up all the components for the front panel
> > assembly, and
> > was preparing for the "Front Panel Final Assembly."  After continued
> > frustration, I decided this wasn't a good night to work on my K2.
> >
> > Problem 1:
> >
> > The double-backed tape for the green plastic bargraph filter is simply
> > impossible to install.  When I opened the serial number envelope to locate
> > the bargraph filter and tape, I only saw one small, rectangular, brown
> > "something" that I guessed was the tape.  I then realized it was folded in
> > two.  Simple enough, right?  I unfolded it and saw the two tape strips.
> > After some struggle, I managed to release one side of the brown paper, and
> > went to position it on the bargraph filter.  But then I noticed it was not
> > long enough; i.e., the manual illustration shows the tape going
> > parallel to
> > the long side of the filter, edge to edge.  But it was too short to reach
> > from side to side.  OK, I thought, so what?  It doesn't take much to hold
> > this little piece of plastic in place.  So I mounted it on the filter, and
> > then mounted the other strip on the filter.  Now for the fun part.
> >
> > No matter how hard I tried, I could not remove the OTHER piece of brown
> > paper; i.e. the back side, to expose the other side of the adhesive (that
> > would attach to the inside of the panel).  Even using a powerful magnifier
> > and razor blade, it just couldn't be done.  Am I missing something here?
> > Sigh.  OK, I'll just skip to the clear plastic LCD bezel, and
> > deal with this
> > later, I thought....
> >
> > Problem 2:
> >
> > The manual calls for the use of four 2-56 screws (stainless
> > steel) to mount
> > the bezel.  No problem.  I located the screws, lined up the bezel, got my
> > tiny screwdriver, and proceeded.  But the screw wouldn't start in
> > the hole.
> > "Could it not be threaded," I thought?!  Sure enough, none of the
> > four holes
> > is threaded - am I to cut threads in a steel panel with these tiny
> > screws??!!  I could try it, I suppose, but there's a very good chance
> > they'll simply strip out the threads.
> >
> > Maybe the moon's in a bad phase; maybe there are astronomical forces
> > conspiring against me, but for the first time in 29 pages of instruction
> > I've come across two steps that are seemingly impossible.  My heretofore
> > high confidence in Elecraft guidance is on the wane...
> >
> > So, what gives, guys?  Am I missing something obvious,or should I
> > just take
> > the night off and pop open a cold one?
> >
> > 73,  Louis
> >
>
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