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J FRANCIS

Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
> computer to use with my K3 setup. Anyone know of
> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
> computer
>
> 73
>
> John G3LWI
>

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M0XDF

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

There are a few, but for DX (and occasional contest) I'd recommend MacLoggerDX
http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 29 Sep 2010, at 16:42, J FRANCIS wrote:

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>
>
>
>> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
>> computer to use with my K3 setup. Anyone know of
>> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
>> computer
>>

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Joe Planisky

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

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Depends on what you mean by "suitable".

I like Aether ( http://www.aetherlog.com ) because it's relatively
simple and doesn't (yet) try to be an all-in-one package.

Not free (in any sense of the word), but affordable at US$39.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS wrote:

>
>
>
>
>> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
>> computer to use with my K3 setup. Anyone know of
>> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
>> computer
>>
>> 73
>>
>> John G3LWI

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Rick Prather-2

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

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I use both MacLoggerDX and RUMLog.

There are advantages to both.

I especially like the way RUMLog includes more and more K3 integration. The radio status screen is habit forming and being able to execute macros and access the K3's memory is very useful.

I also find RUMLog's integration with LoTW to be very well done.

Since DL2RUM (Tom) the author is a K3 user I expect even more integration as he finds time.

Rick
K6LE

On 9/29/2010, at 8:42 , J FRANCIS wrote:

M0XDF

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

Only problem with that as far as I know is that it doesn't support MicroHam devices, which I'd like to see it do via Chens uRouter

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108

For disappearing acts, it's hard to beat what happens to the eight hours supposedly left after eight of sleep and eight of work.
-Doug Larson

On 29 Sep 2010, at 17:36, Rick Prather wrote:

> I use both MacLoggerDX and RUMLog.
>
> There are advantages to both.
>
> I especially like the way RUMLog includes more and more K3 integration. The radio status screen is habit forming and being able to execute macros and access the K3's memory is very useful.
>
> I also find RUMLog's integration with LoTW to be very well done.
>
> Since DL2RUM (Tom) the author is a K3 user I expect even more integration as he finds time.

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Kok Chen

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

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On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS G3LWI wrote:
> Anyone know of suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac computer

MacLoggerDX
. by Don, VE3VRW
. not free
. everything and the kitchen sink
. Cocoa framework
http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
-----------
Aether
. not free
. pretty basic logger
. Cocoa framework
http://aetherlog.com/
-----------
RUMlog
. by Tom, DL2RUM (author uses K3)
. free
. very full featured with good support by Tom in the forum pages at his web site
. REALbasic framework
http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html
-----------
RUMped
. also by Tom, DL2RUM (aka VP2MUM, 9X0TL, etc, author uses K3)
. free
. contest and DXpedition logger, uses cocoaModem as demodulator for RTTY and PSK31; direct FSK to the K3's CAT port, CW using microKEYER, etc...
. (check http://dl2rum.de/files/Aural_3.mov to see a Quicktime movie of RUMped in action at 9X0TL)
. REALbasic framework
http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMPed.html
-----------
YaeLogger
. by Piotr, SM7YEA
. free
. meant as a CW contest logger but also works as general logger
http://sites.google.com/site/sm7yea/home/imac-software/yealogger-project
-----------
SkookumLogger
. by Bill, K1GQ (author uses K3)
. free
. CW contest logger, patterned after CT contest logger, uses K1EL keyer for CW)
. Cocoa framework
http://web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.html
-----------

RUMped, YaeLogger and SkookumLogger are written by hard core contesters/DXpeditioners.

RUMped, RUMlog and SkookumLogger authors use the K3.

RUMlog and RUMped don't use Cocoa, but (like the K3 Utility for the Mac) you probably won't find too many things that affect its operation (RUMped even uses AppleScript to get its waterfall display from cocoaModem).

(Personally, I use BBEdit for logging :-).

73
Chen, W7AY

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Ray Sills

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

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There's RUMlog:

<http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html>

73 de Ray
K2ULR
FN20kg
Warrington, PA

On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:42 AM, J FRANCIS wrote:

>
>
>
>
>> Have recently aquired an Apple/Mac
>> computer to use with my K3 setup. Anyone know of
>> suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac
>> computer
>>
>> 73
>>
>> John G3LWI
>>
>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

In reply to this post by M0XDF

> Only problem with that as far as I know is that it doesn't support
> MicroHam devices,

Actually, RUMlog does support microHAM "Keyers" via Chen's Router.
Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and
cocoaModem during his current stay in Rwanda.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 9/29/2010 12:41 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> Only problem with that as far as I know is that it doesn't support
> MicroHam devices, which I'd like to see it do via Chens uRouter
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
>
> For disappearing acts, it's hard to beat what happens to the eight
> hours supposedly left after eight of sleep and eight of work. -Doug
> Larson
>
> On 29 Sep 2010, at 17:36, Rick Prather wrote:
>
>> I use both MacLoggerDX and RUMLog.
>>
>> There are advantages to both.
>>
>> I especially like the way RUMLog includes more and more K3
>> integration. The radio status screen is habit forming and being
>> able to execute macros and access the K3's memory is very useful.
>>
>> I also find RUMLog's integration with LoTW to be very well done.
>>
>> Since DL2RUM (Tom) the author is a K3 user I expect even more
>> integration as he finds time.
>

M0XDF

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

Great, time to give it a try again then :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err.
-Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)

On 29 Sep 2010, at 20:01, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
>> Only problem with that as far as I know is that it doesn't support
>> MicroHam devices,
>
> Actually, RUMlog does support microHAM "Keyers" via Chen's Router.
> Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and
> cocoaModem during his current stay in Rwanda.
>

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Kok Chen

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

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On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and cocoaModem during his current stay in Rwanda.

Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL. And µH Router was never in the loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.

The 9X0TL Quicktime link that I'd posted earlier today was an interesting software Rube Goldberg exercise by itself.

The transmit RTTY tones (using the K3 FSK KY command, I believe) come from the K3's monitor. The RTTY receive tones that you hear come from cocoaModem's Aural Monitor. Tom uses a wideband waterfall to tune in his stations. For aural monitoring, clicked signals in cocoaModem are filtered and converted to a single fixed RTTY tone pair, no matter where he'd clicked. The video comes from the Quicktime screen capture function.

The "roger beep" that you hear occurs when the cocoaModem "click buffer" transitions from the "tape loop" to real time data (I turn it off myself, but Tom prefers it on).

Sometime within that Quicktime movie, Tom switched off the narrow filter in the cocoaModem aural monitor, and you can hear the entire cacophony of people calling him (thank goodness for sufficient dynamic range :-). He turned the narrow aural filter back on and regained sanity before the end of the movie.

Tom has posted a picture of him in his Rwanda "shack" (K3, 600W amp, MacBook Pro, digiKeyer II) here:

http://dl2rum.de/dl2rum/DL2RUM_Home.html

73
Chen, W7AY

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

> Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL. And µH Router was never
> in the loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.
>

My mistake. What I saw looked like RUMlog. My cursory evaluation a
couple months ago showed interoperability with RUMlog, uH Router,
cocoaModem and DK II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 9/29/2010 3:45 PM, Kok Chen wrote:

>
> On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>> Tom is using a DigiKeyer II and K3 with RUMlog, uH Router and cocoaModem during his current stay in Rwanda.
>
> Tom was using RUMped, not RUMlog at 9X0TL. And µH Router was never in the loop; RUMped talks directly to the digiKeyer II.
>
> The 9X0TL Quicktime link that I'd posted earlier today was an interesting software Rube Goldberg exercise by itself.
>
> The transmit RTTY tones (using the K3 FSK KY command, I believe) come from the K3's monitor. The RTTY receive tones that you hear come from cocoaModem's Aural Monitor. Tom uses a wideband waterfall to tune in his stations. For aural monitoring, clicked signals in cocoaModem are filtered and converted to a single fixed RTTY tone pair, no matter where he'd clicked. The video comes from the Quicktime screen capture function.
>
> The "roger beep" that you hear occurs when the cocoaModem "click buffer" transitions from the "tape loop" to real time data (I turn it off myself, but Tom prefers it on).
>
> Sometime within that Quicktime movie, Tom switched off the narrow filter in the cocoaModem aural monitor, and you can hear the entire cacophony of people calling him (thank goodness for sufficient dynamic range :-). He turned the narrow aural filter back on and regained sanity before the end of the movie.
>
> Tom has posted a picture of him in his Rwanda "shack" (K3, 600W amp, MacBook Pro, digiKeyer II) here:
>
> http://dl2rum.de/dl2rum/DL2RUM_Home.html
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
>
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Kok Chen

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

In reply to this post by Kok Chen

In the earlier posting, I had forgotten to mention a couple of Java loggers that will run on Mac OS X.

-----------
jlog
. free
. general logger
. Java framework
http://jlog.org/
-----------
JL
. by Mike, W1JQ
. free
. contest logger
. Java framework
http://www.qsl.net/w1jq/
-----------

The disadvantage of Java loggers is that there is no way for them to interoperate with other Mac OS applications through AppleScript.

73
Chen, W7AY

On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Kok Chen wrote:

> On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, J FRANCIS G3LWI wrote:
>> Anyone know of suitable logging program that I can use with the Apple/Mac computer
>
> MacLoggerDX
> . by Don, VE3VRW
> . not free
> . everything and the kitchen sink
> . Cocoa framework
> http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
> -----------
> Aether
> . not free
> . pretty basic logger
> . Cocoa framework
> http://aetherlog.com/
> -----------
> RUMlog
> . by Tom, DL2RUM (author uses K3)
> . free
> . very full featured with good support by Tom in the forum pages at his web site
> . REALbasic framework
> http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html
> -----------
> RUMped
> . also by Tom, DL2RUM (aka VP2MUM, 9X0TL, etc, author uses K3)
> . free
> . contest and DXpedition logger, uses cocoaModem as demodulator for RTTY and PSK31; direct FSK to the K3's CAT port, CW using microKEYER, etc...
> . (check http://dl2rum.de/files/Aural_3.mov to see a Quicktime movie of RUMped in action at 9X0TL)
> . REALbasic framework
> http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMPed.html
> -----------
> YaeLogger
> . by Piotr, SM7YEA
> . free
> . meant as a CW contest logger but also works as general logger
> http://sites.google.com/site/sm7yea/home/imac-software/yealogger-project
> -----------
> SkookumLogger
> . by Bill, K1GQ (author uses K3)
> . free
> . CW contest logger, patterned after CT contest logger, uses K1EL keyer for CW)
> . Cocoa framework
> http://web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.html
> -----------
>
> RUMped, YaeLogger and SkookumLogger are written by hard core contesters/DXpeditioners.
>
> RUMped, RUMlog and SkookumLogger authors use the K3.
>
> RUMlog and RUMped don't use Cocoa, but (like the K3 Utility for the Mac) you probably won't find too many things that affect its operation (RUMped even uses AppleScript to get its waterfall display from cocoaModem).
>
> (Personally, I use BBEdit for logging :-).
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY

ik1bxn

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

In reply to this post by J FRANCIS

On my Mac I virtualized an XP Pro machine just and only to use Ham applications (such as Ham Radio Deluxe, K3 Utility UI-View and so on) that are very often written for Windows :-( . 73 de Giorgio

gene

Re: Fw: Apple/Mac logging program

In reply to this post by J FRANCIS

Hi,

Have you tried Skoomkumlogger which I find excellent and it is constantly being improved. It also works well with Winkeyer (USB version) which is available as a kit for about $100. My rig is an F950 but it support a lot of rigs.

73,

Gene