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Fw: K3 APF Problem

Vic,

As you suspected the problem with the menu misalignment was the front panel firmware revision. Somehow yesterday when I had the utility download all the latest firmware it downloaded 1.09. Today it found 1.14. I've installed it and the menu problem is resolved. Strange how it found the right one today but not yesterday.

However, function of the APF is unchanged from what I've described below. That is a loud clip when engaged, CW disappears and then when rotating the shift control there is a loud clip when each 50 Hz step is incremented. I've read the manual to no help. Any clues from anyone would be helpful and appreciated.

Take pride in the USA. 73

Jim, W0EM

--- On Sun, 1/30/11, Jim Harris <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Jim Harris <[hidden email]>
Subject: K3 APF Problem
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 10:40 PM

Vic,

Thank you for the response. You may be heading me in the right direction. I had the K3 Utility download the latest of all the firmware's from the website and told it to install them. It shows it downloaded and installed FPF 1.09. You mention it should be 1.14. I'll try to find it on the site, download and install it and see what happens.

Strange that what should apparently be the latest release is not directly available when the Utility checks the website. That creates problems for people like me.

I'll post results when there is something new.

Take pride in the USA. 73

Jim, W0EM

Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0800
From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Problem???
To: [hidden email]
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Make sure that the front panel code is also updated. The proper version for 4.25 is 1.14.
Also make sure the proper DSP table is present when you update; it should be DTBL0014.HEX.
If all the versions aren't synchronized you can have problems like you describe.

On 1/29/2011 2:27 PM, Jim Harris wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> After watching the progress of APF for a few months I decided it was time to upgrade to
> the latest firmware (4.25) and give it a try. When pressing the DUAL PB
there is a

> LOUD clip and the CW is gone. Turning the SHIFT control products one LOUD clip for
> each 50 Hz step. I went to CONFIG and could not find DUEL PB to ascertain APF was
> selected. Now this gets complicated so follow closely. There is no DUEL PB in the VFO
> B space between DIGOUT1 and EXT ALC as the latest manual (D9 - Pg 55) indicates there
> should be. However, when EXT ALC is selected APF is show in VFO A. It appears that in
> my K3 all values in the second column of the manual (displayed in VFO A) beginning with
> EXT ALC is shifted up one entry from the first column of the manual (displayed in VFO
> B). BTW, turning VFO A knob does change the VFO A display from APF to DUEL PB and back
> again when in EXT ALC.
>
> I have taken a picture and will be happy to display it someplace if anyone is
> interested in seeing

it.
>
> I've read the verbiage on page 35 about APF and there is nothing there that seems to
> help. Anyone have any ideas or can tell me what I'm doing wrong.
>
> Take pride in the USA. 73
>
>
>
> Jim, W0EM

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Vic K2VCO

Re: Fw: K3 APF Problem

Make sure DTBL0014.HEX is in the folder along with the DSP files. That's the DSP table for
DSP 2.71. Then reload the DSP. I think this is the same kind of problem that you had with
the FP -- out-of-sync files.

On 1/30/2011 3:02 PM, Jim Harris wrote:

> Vic,
>
> As you suspected the problem with the menu misalignment was the front panel firmware
> revision. Somehow yesterday when I had the utility download all the latest firmware it
> downloaded 1.09. Today it found 1.14. I've installed it and the menu problem is resolved.
> Strange how it found the right one today but not yesterday.
>
> However, function of the APF is unchanged from what I've described below. That is a loud
> clip when engaged, CW disappears and then when rotating the shift control there is a loud
> clip when each 50 Hz step is incremented. I've read the manual to no help. Any clues from
> anyone would be helpful and appreciated.
>
> Take pride in the USA. 73
>
> Jim, W0EM
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/30/11, Jim Harris /<[hidden email]>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Jim Harris <[hidden email]>
> Subject: K3 APF Problem
> To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 10:40 PM
>
> Vic,
>
> Thank you for the response. You may be heading me in the right direction. I had the K3
> Utility download the latest of all the firmware's from the website and told it to
> install them. It shows it downloaded and installed FPF 1.09. You mention it should be
> 1.14. I'll try to find it on the site, download and install it and see what happens.
>
> Strange that what should apparently be the latest release is not directly available
> when the Utility checks the website. That creates problems for people like me.
>
> I'll post results when there is something new.
>
> Take pride in the USA. 73
>
> Jim, W0EM
>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0800
> From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Problem???
> To: [hidden email]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Make sure that the front panel code is also updated. The proper version for 4.25 is 1.14.
> Also make sure the proper DSP table is present when you update; it should be
> DTBL0014.HEX.
> If all the versions aren't synchronized you can have problems like you describe.
>
> On 1/29/2011 2:27 PM, Jim Harris wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > After watching the progress of APF for a few months I decided it was time to upgrade to
> > the latest firmware (4.25) and give it a try. When pressing the DUAL PB there is a
> > LOUD clip and the CW is gone. Turning the SHIFT control products one LOUD clip for
> > each 50 Hz step. I went to CONFIG and could not find DUEL PB to ascertain APF was
> > selected. Now this gets complicated so follow closely. There is no DUEL PB in the VFO
> > B space between DIGOUT1 and EXT ALC as the latest manual (D9 - Pg 55) indicates there
> > should be. However, when EXT ALC is selected APF is show in VFO A. It appears that in
> > my K3 all values in the second column of the manual (displayed in VFO A) beginning with
> > EXT ALC is shifted up one entry from the first column of the manual (displayed in VFO
> > B). BTW, turning VFO A knob does change the VFO A display from APF to DUEL PB and back
> > again when in EXT ALC.
> >
> > I have taken a picture and will be happy to display it someplace if anyone is
> > interested in seeing it.
> >
> > I've read the verbiage on page 35 about APF and there is nothing there that seems to
> > help. Anyone have any ideas or can tell me what I'm doing wrong.
> >
> > Take pride in the USA. 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim, W0EM
>
>
>

--
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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radioshoppe

Re: Fw: K3 APF Problem

Vic,

I'm not sure which folder you are speaking of that the hex file should be in but I'm suspecting it needs to load with the other DSP firmware. As best I can remember I think I saw that file load with the other DSP files. I'm away from the radio now but tomorrow I will reload the DSP firmware and watch for that hex file to load.

Thank you for your patience and help.

Take pride in the USA. 73

Jim, W0EM

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Fw: K3 APF Problem
To: "Jim Harris" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 1:00 AM

Make sure DTBL0014.HEX is in the folder along with the DSP files. That's the DSP table for
DSP 2.71. Then reload the DSP. I think this is the same kind of problem that you had with
the FP -- out-of-sync files.

On 1/30/2011 3:02 PM, Jim Harris wrote:

> Vic,
>
> As you suspected the problem with the menu misalignment was the front panel firmware
> revision. Somehow yesterday when I had the utility download all the latest firmware it
> downloaded 1.09. Today it found 1.14. I've installed it and the menu problem is resolved.
> Strange how it found the right one today but not yesterday.
>
> However, function of the APF is unchanged from what I've described below. That is a loud
> clip when engaged, CW disappears and then when rotating the shift control there is a loud
> clip when each 50 Hz step is incremented. I've read the manual to no help. Any clues from
> anyone would be helpful and appreciated.
>
> Take pride in the USA. 73
>
> Jim, W0EM
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/30/11, Jim Harris /<[hidden email]>/* wrote:
>
>
>    From: Jim Harris <[hidden email]>
>    Subject: K3 APF Problem
>    To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
>    Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 10:40 PM
>
>    Vic,
>
>    Thank you for the response. You may be heading me in the right direction. I had the K3
>    Utility download the latest of all the firmware's from the website and told it to
>    install them. It shows it downloaded and installed FPF 1.09. You mention it should be
>    1.14. I'll try to find it on the site, download and install it and see what happens.
>
>    Strange that what should apparently be the latest release is not directly available
>    when the Utility checks the website. That creates problems for people like me.
>
>    I'll post results when there is something new.
>
>    Take pride in the USA. 73
>
>    Jim, W0EM
>
>    Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:18:53 -0800
>    From: Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]>
>    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Problem???
>    To: [hidden email]
>    Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>    Make sure that the front panel code is also updated. The proper version for 4.25 is 1.14.
>    Also make sure the proper DSP table is present when you update; it should be
>    DTBL0014.HEX.
>    If all the versions aren't synchronized you can have problems like you describe.
>
>    On 1/29/2011 2:27 PM, Jim Harris wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > After watching the progress of APF for a few months I decided it was time to upgrade to
> > the latest firmware (4.25) and give it a try. When pressing the DUAL PB there is a
> > LOUD clip and the CW is gone. Turning the SHIFT control products one LOUD clip for
> > each 50 Hz step. I went to CONFIG and could not find DUEL PB to ascertain APF was
> > selected. Now this gets complicated so follow closely. There is no DUEL PB in the VFO
> > B space between DIGOUT1 and EXT ALC as the latest manual (D9 - Pg 55) indicates there
> > should be. However, when EXT ALC is selected APF is show in VFO A. It appears that in
> > my K3 all values in the second column of the manual (displayed in VFO A) beginning with
> > EXT ALC is shifted up one entry from the first column of the manual (displayed in VFO
> > B). BTW, turning VFO A knob does change the VFO A display from APF to DUEL PB and back
> > again when in EXT ALC.
> >
> > I have taken a picture and will be happy to display it someplace if anyone is
> > interested in seeing it.
> >
> > I've read the verbiage on page 35 about APF and there is nothing there that seems to
> > help. Anyone have any ideas or can tell me what I'm doing wrong.
> >
> > Take pride in the USA. 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim, W0EM
>
>
>

--
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

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