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Charlie T, K3ICH

Fw: K3 Suddenly died

What is most amazing about this thread is that two sides can state the exact
same thing, but find fault with and argue with the other.. (???)
It's bordering on comical.

>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Underwood" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
>
>
>> Of course. My point was "for a given current", so 20A at 120V and 20A at
>> 13.8V. --wunder, K6WRU
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>>
>>> I stated the voltage drop across a resistance (the wire conductor) is
>>> directly proportional to the amount of current flow (amperage) through
>>> it.
>>>
>>> For a given resistance, as the current increases through it, the voltage
>>> drop increases in it.
>>>
>>> Changing the supply voltage will change the current flow through the
>>> same conductor resistance and affect the voltage drop in it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Underwood
>>> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:20 AM
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
>>>
>>> There is a point which could be made -- the percentage voltage drop is
>>> bigger at 12V than at 120V.
>>>
>>> If the voltage drop on your power supply wire is 2V for a given current,
>>> that is the same regardless of the supply voltage. With a 120V supply,
>>> the wire will deliver 118V and with 13.8V it will deliver 11.8V.
>>>
>>> So the same voltage drop can matter more at lower supply voltages.
>>>
>>> Note that I'm ignoring the difference between AC and DC and skin effect.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>>
>>
>>
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Tony Estep

Re: Fw: K3 Suddenly died

Apparently Ohm's Law is too complicated to argue about on here. Let's go
back to discussing whether or not you can read the Heisenberg uncertainty
quantity (10-34 joule-seconds) on your voltmeter.

Tony KT0NY
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Harlan Sherriff

Re: Fw: K3 Suddenly died

well. If it is a Simpson 260, I'm sure you can.... You can read ANYTHING with a Simpson... ;)

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Mark Bayern

Re: Fw: K3 Suddenly died

>> You can read ANYTHING with a Simpson...

Including:

1 -- orientation of the meter. Try it. Zero the scale with the meter
vertical and then lay the meter on its back. Different readings.

2 -- the static charge on the meter glass.

3 -- ... I'll just stop at two for now

Mark

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Harlan <[hidden email]> wrote:

> well. If it is a Simpson 260, I'm sure you can.... You can read ANYTHING with a Simpson... ;)
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riese-k3djc

Re: Fw: K3 Suddenly died

In reply to this post by Charlie T, K3ICH

but what microphone should I use on my K3

Bob K3DJC
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:43:39 -0400 "Charlie T, K3ICH" <[hidden email]>
writes:

>
>
> What is most amazing about this thread is that two sides can state
> the exact
> same thing, but find fault with and argue with the other.. (???)
> It's bordering on comical.
> >
> > 73, Charlie k3ICH
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walter Underwood" <[hidden email]>
> > To: "Richard Fjeld" <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
> >
> >
> >> Of course. My point was "for a given current", so 20A at 120V and
> 20A at
> >> 13.8V. --wunder, K6WRU
> >>
> >> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> >>
> >>> I stated the voltage drop across a resistance (the wire
> conductor) is
> >>> directly proportional to the amount of current flow (amperage)
> through
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> For a given resistance, as the current increases through it, the
> voltage
> >>> drop increases in it.
> >>>
> >>> Changing the supply voltage will change the current flow through
> the
> >>> same conductor resistance and affect the voltage drop in it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Underwood
> >>> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:20 AM
> >>> To: Elecraft Reflector
> >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suddenly died
> >>>
> >>> There is a point which could be made -- the percentage voltage
> drop is
> >>> bigger at 12V than at 120V.
> >>>
> >>> If the voltage drop on your power supply wire is 2V for a given
> current,
> >>> that is the same regardless of the supply voltage. With a 120V
> supply,
> >>> the wire will deliver 118V and with 13.8V it will deliver
> 11.8V.
> >>>
> >>> So the same voltage drop can matter more at lower supply
> voltages.
> >>>
> >>> Note that I'm ignoring the difference between AC and DC and skin
> effect.
> >>>
> >>> wunder
> >>> K6WRU
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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