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Gary Gregory-2

Re: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

Yeay....thanks Phil for confirming a genuine sale.

Now maybe some well intentioned ham will purchase the station and bring
some relief to a fellow ham facing perhaps a very difficult future.

Gary
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On 13/12/2014 7:42 AM, "Phil Hystad" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well,
>
> I just verified the phone number as being a wireless line in the city of
> Crestview, Florida, which the city of AK4EH...
>
> And, his QRZ page is listing some of the same equipment for sale as listed
> in the message posted by Jim. He even spelled K3 without the hyphen. I am
> thinking that he had someone write up the message listing his equipment.
>
> So, do you still think this is a scammer. I think you are way off base on
> this guy.
>
> 73, phil
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I agree completely.
> >
> > The question isn't one of impinging the reputation of AK4EH, but
> pointing out that it seems likely that AK4EH (or anyone associated with
> him) isn't the one behind the posting.
> >
> > The same is true of everyone who cross-posted the message.
> >
> > I could probably pick any name and address on this list, post as them,
> and if you don't know how to read headers, it'd be hard to tell the message
> was fake.
> >
> > It doesn't happen often because most people are honest. It's something
> I sincerely hope is always true.
> >
> > I hope I'm wrong about this post, and I hope the best for Tom and his
> family.
> >
> > If it's a scam, his family may have to deal with some angry buyers who
> thought they paid them for gear that they never received.
> >
> > 73 -- Lynn
> >
> > On 12/12/2014 12:03 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> >> Being suspicious is one thing but to impinge the reputation of someone
> (especially someone you don't even know) without the slightest bit of
> evidence is wrong. In fact, it is demeaning to this ham radio community in
> my opinion.
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Gary Gregory-2

Re: OT - Re: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

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One can only hope...:-)

Gary
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On 13/12/2014 7:45 AM, "John, 9H5G" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Has this not reached the end of its usefulness, if indeed, it ever was?
> It's certainly wasting my (expensive) bandwidth here in C6.
>
> 73 de John, 9H5G
>
> > On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Why wouldn't they?
> >
> > If someone tries to take them up on the offer, they can give some excuse
> (like "already sold").
> >
> > If someone sees that as a sign that it's legitimate, and sends payment,
> then it's a win for the scammer.
> >
> > Remember that it costs very little for a scammer to do something like
> this, and since they have almost nothing invested, only a few have to pay
> off.
> >
> > This one is worrisome. I've seen that first sentence too many times,
> followed by a tale about my recently departed relative and his estate.
> >
> > 73 -- Lynn
> >
> >> On 12/12/2014 11:32 AM, EricJ wrote:
> >> Could be, but not too many scammers would invite you to come operate
> the equipment in his home.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >> KE6US
> >>
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Nick Kemp

Re: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

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Regardless of all the arguments about the potential for a scam, the
final message should be "proceed with eyes wide open".

Nick
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Re: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

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I realize that this topic has been beaten to death, but I wouldlike to point out one factoid. Down here in Florida - I'm down inthe southeastern part, and AK4EH is way up in the Panhandle -there have been a number of instances in which homeownerswere unpleasantly surprised to discover that their properties werebeing offered for rent (or, even, sale!) by unknown/unauthorized third parties.
There's been a huge upheaval in the real estate market here, generallyspeaking, and a lot of people have been buying properties for cashbecause they don't want to endure the hassles of getting a mortgage.Problem is, they're not performing what lawyers (and business owners)call "due diligence", and end up at closing to discover that they'rehanding money over to someone who doesn't own the property. Oops.Same sort of thing is happening with rentals - folks put down a deposit,and start to move in, only to be faced by the local constabulary witha drawn firearm, at which point they realize that that great deal they goton the Internet was totally bogus.
So, yes, there is always room for suspicion, sadly enough, and for thereasons that others have voiced in this thread, as well as other reasonsthat may not have come to light yet.
Just my 20 millidollars' worth
de N1HO
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Re: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

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So how do we resolve this? Anyone live close enough to visit? Might a letter to AK4EH alert him to our concern? Other options?

Nick

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Al Gulseth-2

Re: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

Well, for one thing, if he bought his K-line new Elecraft should be able to
verify that much. I would think that other hams who live in that area and
know him could confirm or deny whether this is a legitimate posting.

Per one of Jim K9YC's follow ups "the original post to Tower Talk was by
W4GMH, who said he was posting it "to help out one of the local guys."

Anyone know W4GMH to confirm things with him?

On another subject, it's sad that our society/world has deteriorated to the
point that we have to go through this many gyrations over this item....

73, Al

On Fri December 12 2014 7:12:13 pm Nick Kemp wrote:

> So how do we resolve this? Anyone live close enough to visit? Might a
> letter to AK4EH alert him to our concern? Other options?
>
>
>
>
> Nick
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kk4oyj

Re: Fwd: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

Done!

This is an elecraft list, not one for solving all this injustices in the world or anything else. I'm done here and perhaps when a moderator wakes up and is prepared to moderate all this junk I'll subscribe again.

If you wanted a lesson in how to reduce a valuable resource to worthless, then you just gave it.

73 de John, 9H5G

> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Al Gulseth <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well, for one thing, if he bought his K-line new Elecraft should be able to
> verify that much. I would think that other hams who live in that area and
> know him could confirm or deny whether this is a legitimate posting.
>
> Per one of Jim K9YC's follow ups "the original post to Tower Talk was by
> W4GMH, who said he was posting it "to help out one of the local guys."
>
> Anyone know W4GMH to confirm things with him?
>
> On another subject, it's sad that our society/world has deteriorated to the
> point that we have to go through this many gyrations over this item....
>
> 73, Al
>
>> On Fri December 12 2014 7:12:13 pm Nick Kemp wrote:
>> So how do we resolve this? Anyone live close enough to visit? Might a
>> letter to AK4EH alert him to our concern? Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
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Re: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

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My scamdar is on high alert. The offer itself seems benign but there is
something just not right. I will bet that when you get into the
details, this will get fishier and fishier. Someone got just enough
information to seem legitimate. The offer to see the equipment will
never occur for countless reasons. Somewhere along the line, after you
have been lulled in, this will degenerate.

I an in a business where we are targeted every day with increasingly
sophisticated and believable stories. When in doubt, just say no.

Buck
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On 12/12/2014 6:26 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:

> Regardless of all the arguments about the potential for a scam, the
> final message should be "proceed with eyes wide open".
>
> Nick
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Michael Walker

Re: [TowerTalk] Elecraft package for sale

Can we let this one go?

If your interested in what he has, give him a call and work it out.

If you aren't sure, then move on.

Many thanks!

Mike va3mw

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, K4ia via Elecraft <
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>
> My scamdar is on high alert. The offer itself seems benign but there is
> something just not right. I will bet that when you get into the details,
> this will get fishier and fishier. Someone got just enough information to
> seem legitimate. The offer to see the equipment will never occur for
> countless reasons. Somewhere along the line, after you have been lulled
> in, this will degenerate.
>
> I an in a business where we are targeted every day with increasingly
> sophisticated and believable stories. When in doubt, just say no.
>
> Buck
> k4ia
> K3# 101 KX3 #715
>
> On 12/12/2014 6:26 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:
>
>> Regardless of all the arguments about the potential for a scam, the
>> final message should be "proceed with eyes wide open".
>>
>> Nick
>> N1KMP
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