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Re: Fwd: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Still no information on the P3 TX Monitor - no documentation,
no order link.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-05-14 9:19 AM, Matt Murphy wrote:

> Fixed the other URL:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%20A1.pdf
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> What a shame...Not the best way to launch a new product..
>>
>> Stewart G3RXQ
>>
>> On Thu, 14 May 2015 09:05:47 -0400, Jim Miller wrote:
>>> Not hitting the screen fully and no audio here.
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:01 AM, W4CCS <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone getting any audio..??
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Eric
>>>> Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:43 AM
>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Eric Swartz <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Date: May 14, 2015 at 8:41:34 AM EDT
>>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Subject: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be starting my DAYTON talk today in about 20 min - About 8:55
>> - 9
>>>> AM EDT.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the live video stream see:
>>>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/g4gxl-test
>>>>>
>>>>> Fun times!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> elecraft.com
>>>>> _..._
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Re: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Ross Primrose
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On 5/14/2015 9:25 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> That was disappointing on 2 levels. The UStream show failed badly and only bits of the K3 S are a retrofit.
> 73, Mike NF4L

Quit your whining.  If it'd been any other manufacturer, NONE of the
bits would be available as a retrofit...

73, Ross N4RP

>
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>> On May 14, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>
>>> From: Eric Swartz <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: May 14, 2015 at 8:41:34 AM EDT
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>>
>>> I will be starting my DAYTON talk today in about 20 min - About 8:55 - 9 AM EDT.
>>>
>>> For the live video stream see:
>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/g4gxl-test
>>>
>>> Fun times!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Eric
>>> elecraft.com
>>> _..._
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Re: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Gary Gregory-2
Whining?    Really?

Good grief that didnt take long

Gary
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On 14/05/2015 11:58 PM, "Ross Primrose" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 5/14/2015 9:25 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>
>> That was disappointing on 2 levels. The UStream show failed badly and
>> only bits of the K3 S are a retrofit.
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>
> Quit your whining.  If it'd been any other manufacturer, NONE of the bits
> would be available as a retrofit...
>
> 73, Ross N4RP
>
>
>>
>>  On May 14, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: Eric Swartz <[hidden email]>
>>>> Date: May 14, 2015 at 8:41:34 AM EDT
>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>>>
>>>> I will be starting my DAYTON talk today in about 20 min - About 8:55 -
>>>> 9 AM EDT.
>>>>
>>>> For the live video stream see:
>>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/g4gxl-test
>>>>
>>>> Fun times!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Eric
>>>> elecraft.com
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Re: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Raymond Sills
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The UStream issues could be due to many causes.  And, let's not  
complain about a service that isn't costing us something extra to view.
If we were paying to view, then the crew might be able to arrive on  
site earlier to iron out any issues.  And, Elecraft has nothing to do  
with the streaming, other than being one of the vendors there.

Disappointing that the webcast isn't working up to speed, sure... but,  
at this point, they could concentrate on getting the presentations  
recorded properly for future viewing.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On May 14, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:

> On 5/14/2015 9:25 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>> That was disappointing on 2 levels. The UStream show failed badly  
>> and only bits of the K3 S are a retrofit.
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> Quit your whining.  If it'd been any other manufacturer, NONE of the  
> bits would be available as a retrofit...
>
> 73, Ross N4RP

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Re: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Frank Krozel
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Folks, while I was there as well listening to the commercials…
Elecraft did not put this on, right?
This is a FREE service, let’s hope it is corrected for the next few.

Frank KG9H

> On May 14, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Whining?    Really?
>
> Good grief that didnt take long
>
> Gary
> Vk1ZZ
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> On 14/05/2015 11:58 PM, "Ross Primrose" <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2015 9:25 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>>
>>> That was disappointing on 2 levels. The UStream show failed badly and
>>> only bits of the K3 S are a retrofit.
>>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>>
>>
>> Quit your whining.  If it'd been any other manufacturer, NONE of the bits
>> would be available as a retrofit...
>>
>> 73, Ross N4RP
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Eric Swartz <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Date: May 14, 2015 at 8:41:34 AM EDT
>>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Subject: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be starting my DAYTON talk today in about 20 min - About 8:55 -
>>>>> 9 AM EDT.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the live video stream see:
>>>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/g4gxl-test
>>>>>
>>>>> Fun times!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> elecraft.com
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Re: Fwd: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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Unfortunately the FDIM folks had a problem with their live feed of my talk. They do have it on recorded video though and they will post this soon.

I will post a link here when it is ready.

73,

Eric
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> On May 14, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Not hitting the screen fully and no audio here.
>
> jim ab3cv
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>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:01 AM, W4CCS <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Anyone getting any audio..??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric
>> Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:43 AM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>>
>>
>> > From: Eric Swartz <[hidden email]>
>> > Date: May 14, 2015 at 8:41:34 AM EDT
>> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>> > Subject: WA6HHQ FDIM Talk Live Stream today 8:55 AM EDT
>> >
>> > I will be starting my DAYTON talk today in about 20 min - About 8:55 - 9
>> AM EDT.
>> >
>> > For the live video stream see:
>> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/g4gxl-test
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>> > Fun times!
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>> > 73,
>> > Eric
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K3S Quick Review

Rick WA6NHC
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If you read the FAQ page, it looks like most if not all of it will be
retrofit-able.  Functionally it appears that the K3S will add little,
with the exception of the improved DSP boards.

New Features:
The USB interface (control and audio) requires the new IO unit but uses
RJ45 for serial data (and audio) so new cables are required. Most RJ45
need to be occasionally exercised (un/re-inserted) to 'wipe' the
connector pins, even with gold plus the locking pins tend to be fragile
when exposed to extended warmth (the plastic dries out).  While this is
of some interest to me, what I'm using now (external sound card) works
flawlessly so I won't spend $xxx to simply reduce the cable count
(delete RS-232 and audio cables, add USB).  If you do make the change,
you'll need (available, another $xx) a cable to talk to the P3 to keep
what you have.

New DSP board.  Safe bet says it'll fit the K3 too but $xxx (times two
for KRX3)

It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.

The K3 is no longer available, only the K3S, effective now.

The VFO A knob (presumably the bezel too) can be changed.  Softer feel knob.

So it's functionally the same as the K3, but most of the usual add-ons
are now internal (the pre-amp).  Since I have most of them already, the
only new item of interest to me is the TX monitor with perhaps the VFO
knob (wish they had made it weighted, with a clutch for faster QSY).  
Swapping out the IO board simply to reduce cable clutter isn't worth the
expense and with other cabling already there, it won't eliminate the
cable clutter much.

Will it devalue the K3?  Since the essentials are the same, not likely
but some will sell theirs to keep the latest, greatest thus creating a
bump in the market.  On the plus side, making more (older) K3's
available will keep the bands slightly cleaner since they transmit
cleaner than most other brands.  ;o)

For remote ops, it would be nice(r) had they also added a command for
power ON, but that violates the low power 'policy' of Elecraft (the CPU
staying on would increase the drain in 'off' mode).  If the power fails
while you're remote, an external means (IP switch or someone in the
shack) is the only current means of turning the radio on.

**If the timer function were made 'sticky' (repeat every XX minutes) it
would certainly help (minimum down time XX minutes) without requiring
external sources for power on.**

The K3S is functionally the same as the K3 (with options made internal)
but with different packaging.  The interesting point will be the price
since some of those options (PR6-10) are not 'free' on the original K3.  
If the optional costs are incorporated into the K3S price, it means the
entry level system is a higher price, perhaps enough to 'challenge' some
budgets.  Knowing the folks at Elecraft, I'm sure the marketing has been
fully examined, but a more basic K3S will cost more (they can't toss in
the options for free).

That's the quick review, but won't likely stop the weeks of bantering
about to occur.

73,
Rick wa6nhc

On 5/14/2015 6:25 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> That was disappointing on 2 levels. The UStream show failed badly and only bits of the K3 S are a retrofit.
> 73, Mike NF4L

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Re: K3S Quick Review

Chris Tate - N6WM
Agree with Rick on this..  Nice to have the USB, but its still a bit behind the tech curve.  A functional ethernet port and maybe some more internal computation power along with IQ out would have been a better bet IMHO,   Eliminating the RRC and integrating remote capability with the K3S to basically slam dunk the competition on their certain advantages.. These would be game changers.  This hasn't happened yet and I would hope are slated for the true next gen rig.

As far as I can see.. A lot of all this can be retrofitted into my existing K3, not all but most, including the USB interface.  Can even get the knob rubber replaced when available.  WIll probably end up with a K3S eventually anyway..  Elecraft has been such a great Radio company over the years and will continue to support them.  My K3 is 7 now and has seen a LOT of action..  Appreciate being able to keep it somewhat cutting edge.

Would have been much more excited to see the similar past aggressive engineering support to solve some challenges with the KX series (Like they did with the K3).  There is enough info out there that says some kind of Elecraft supported heat dissipation solution is needed for both the KX3 and KXPA100.

Needless to say..  nice refinements to the best of the best for Ham radio.. but no where near game changing.  

These are my babies and will remain part of my permanent collection
K3
KPA500
KAT500
W2 X 2
KRC2
K3/0 with RRC set.

Jury still out on my

KX3
KXPA100
PX3
Love the portability..  not so happy with the heat performance issues particularly with digital modes.. even qrp.  this is disappointing and somewhat out of character based on the K line engineering strategies of past.



Wish they had on the radar
KPA1000/1500 and if they dont want to go there..A full legal limit auto tuner.

K4(?) a K series with more LAN/Remote/Remote PAN display support and with some of the small little goodies they put on the KX3.

Just my ramblings and 2 cents.  Still love Elecraft..  Want to keep it that way.

GL to Elecraft in Dayton.

Chris
N6WM





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Re: K3S Quick Review

Alan Bloom
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On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
...
>
> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.

One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is not
dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.

The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation
envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a
few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter"
full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
values for the 200W sensors).

Alan N1AL

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Re: K3S Quick Review

Phil Wheeler-2
Is the P3 TX monitor up at the order page?  So
much there I may have missed it, Alan.

Phil W7OX

On 5/14/15 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:

> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> ...
>>
>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN
>> time frame (real soon
>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt
>> sensor for K3/100 plus
>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>
> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit
> monitor is that it is not dependent on the K3s -
> it works just fine with a K3.
>
> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power
> levels.  The modulation envelope display
> auto-scales and gives a good clean display down
> to a few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can
> set the "analog meter" full-scale to 20W, 120W,
> 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
> values for the 200W sensors).
>
> Alan N1AL

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Re: K3S Quick Review

Ross Primrose
Yes.

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/14/2015 3:11 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Is the P3 TX monitor up at the order page?  So much there I may have
> missed it, Alan.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/14/15 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
>>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
>>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>>
>> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is
>> not dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.
>>
>> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation
>> envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a
>> few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter"
>> full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
>> values for the 200W sensors).
>>
>> Alan N1AL
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Re: K3S Quick Review

Rick WA6NHC
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Thank you Alan.  Yes, the P3 upgrade should have been on a separate
announcement, but most of us can figure it out.

That's good news.  It means I will only need one sensor and spend the
rest of my toy budget on other Elecraft goodies ...  ;o)

Can you translate RSN into a specific shipping date?

Rick nhc

On 5/14/2015 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:

> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> ...
>>
>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>
> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is not
> dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.
>
> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation
> envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a
> few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter"
> full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
> values for the 200W sensors).
>
> Alan N1AL

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Alan Bloom
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I just checked.  It's there in the P3 section.  $199 for the adapter
board and one directional coupler.

Questions about the P3 transmit monitor are pretty well covered in the FAQ:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Xmit%20Mon%20FAQ-ver-A-7.pdf

Alan N1AL


On 05/14/2015 12:11 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Is the P3 TX monitor up at the order page?  So much there I may have
> missed it, Alan.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/14/15 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
>>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
>>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>>
>> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is not
>> dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.
>>
>> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation
>> envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a
>> few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter"
>> full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
>> values for the 200W sensors).
>>
>> Alan N1AL
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I assume with some switch gear, we can flip between a W2 and the P3?

-- 73 de M0XDF

> On 14 May 2015, at 20:14, Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thank you Alan.  Yes, the P3 upgrade should have been on a separate announcement, but most of us can figure it out.
>
> That's good news.  It means I will only need one sensor and spend the rest of my toy budget on other Elecraft goodies ...  ;o)
>
> Can you translate RSN into a specific shipping date?
>
> Rick nhc
>
>> On 5/14/2015 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
>>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
>>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>>
>> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is not dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.
>>
>> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter" full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those values for the 200W sensors).
>>
>> Alan N1AL
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M0XDF
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Ah, no chance of an option to buy just the adaptor board? I have two W2 sensors already

-- 73 de M0XDF

> On 14 May 2015, at 20:24, Alan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I just checked.  It's there in the P3 section.  $199 for the adapter board and one directional coupler.
>
> Questions about the P3 transmit monitor are pretty well covered in the FAQ:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Xmit%20Mon%20FAQ-ver-A-7.pdf
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
>> On 05/14/2015 12:11 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> Is the P3 TX monitor up at the order page?  So much there I may have
>> missed it, Alan.
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>>> On 5/14/15 12:00 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 05/14/2015 09:41 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> It mentions the P3 TX monitor, so that's in RSN time frame (real soon
>>>> now).  BIG want, hoping for a 100/ 750 watt sensor for K3/100 plus
>>>> KPA500.  Then a 2k sensor for full legal power.
>>>
>>> One point to emphasize about the P3 transmit monitor is that it is not
>>> dependent on the K3s - it works just fine with a K3.
>>>
>>> The 2 kW sensor works well at lower power levels.  The modulation
>>> envelope display auto-scales and gives a good clean display down to a
>>> few watts with the 2 kW sensor.  You can set the "analog meter"
>>> full-scale to 20W, 120W, 200W, 700W, 1200W or 2000W (and 1/10 those
>>> values for the 200W sensors).
>>>
>>> Alan N1AL
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Re: K3S Quick Review

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Yes you could build a switch box that switches the 8 wires of the RJ-45
cable to two RJ-45 jacks.  The P3 auto-senses when a coupler module is
connected, and figures out which type it is.  I think the W2 does the
same thing.

Alan N1AL


On 05/14/2015 12:27 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> I assume with some switch gear, we can flip between a W2 and the P3?
>
> -- 73 de M0XDF
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M0XDF
great, thanks

-- 73 de M0XDF

> On 14 May 2015, at 20:41, Alan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes you could build a switch box that switches the 8 wires of the RJ-45 cable to two RJ-45 jacks.  The P3 auto-senses when a coupler module is connected, and figures out which type it is.  I think the W2 does the same thing.
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
>> On 05/14/2015 12:27 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> I assume with some switch gear, we can flip between a W2 and the P3?
>>
>> -- 73 de M0XDF
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Re: K3S Quick Review

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If the USB interface was built to simulate a USB hub with a
RS232-USB converter on one port and a sound card on the other,
there would no change in driver requirements for the computers
and adding another sound card for the I/Q feed might be just a
firmware upgrade.

I don't think we will see a K4 until the basic 8MHz IF
architecture of the K3/K3s becomes obsolete.
Upgrade seems to be the Elecraft way.

73 Bill AE6JV

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>Agree with Rick on this..  Nice to have the USB, but its still
>a bit behind the tech curve.  A functional ethernet port and
>maybe some more internal computation power along with IQ out
>would have been a better bet IMHO,

  ...

>K4(?) a K series with more LAN/Remote/Remote PAN display
>support and with some of the small little goodies they put on
>the KX3.
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vk2rq
It is not just a matter of adding a soundcard for the I/Q feed, as unlike the KX3, the K3 doesn't produce I/Q signals outside the DSP. You'd need to add a quadrature mixer to the IF signal before the roofing filter to generate the I/Q signals for sampling by the soundcards. You could of course do this yourself outside the the radio by feeding the IF output of a KXV3A into a softrock/stereo soundcard, if you want. Or even more more simply, add a P3 :-)

73,
Matt VK2RQ

> On 15 May 2015, at 6:14 am, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> If the USB interface was built to simulate a USB hub with a RS232-USB converter on one port and a sound card on the other, there would no change in driver requirements for the computers and adding another sound card for the I/Q feed might be just a firmware upgrade.
>
> I don't think we will see a K4 until the basic 8MHz IF architecture of the K3/K3s becomes obsolete.
> Upgrade seems to be the Elecraft way.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>> On 5/14/15 at 10:48 AM, [hidden email] (Chris Tate - N6WM) wrote:
>>
>> Agree with Rick on this..  Nice to have the USB, but its still a bit behind the tech curve.  A functional ethernet port and maybe some more internal computation power along with IQ out would have been a better bet IMHO,
>
> ...
>
>> K4(?) a K series with more LAN/Remote/Remote PAN display support and with some of the small little goodies they put on the KX3.
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