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GCBAD [K3, P3]

Vic Rosenthal
So what does GCBAD mean? It's an abbreviation used by my once-teenage
son and friends for Got Caught Being A Dork.

And I GCBAD again for failing to activate SPLIT.

I know we talked about this before. I have pretty much kept myself
honest by using a macro to activate split and the subreceiver, etc. But
it's still possible to get caught.

I've thought about it a lot based on the original discussion. I think
there is only one thing (short of a bionic brain transplant) that would
help me:

Optionally make the transmit cursor on the P3 and PSVGA either bright
yellow or 'flash' (change intensity, not totally go on and off) slowly,
or both.

I focus on the pileup, looking at the P3 and listening to the
subreceiver to find the best spot to call. The problem is that I can
turn on the subreceiver and do all this without activating SPLIT. I need
an indication that I can't miss that says YOU ARE TRANSMITTING HERE.

I personally don't see red very well, so that's why I suggested yellow.
The red transmit cursor doesn't stand out well for me. But some 8% of
males have a problem of color perception, and my particular handicap is
the most common.

Note -- I said /optionally/. I know it would drive some folks nuts.

--
73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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Re: GCBAD [K3, P3]

Phil Wheeler-2
Hmm, I just assumed it was something not GOOD, Vic
:-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/14/15 12:22 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:

> So what does GCBAD mean? It's an abbreviation
> used by my once-teenage son and friends for Got
> Caught Being A Dork.
>
> And I GCBAD again for failing to activate SPLIT.
>
> I know we talked about this before. I have
> pretty much kept myself honest by using a macro
> to activate split and the subreceiver, etc. But
> it's still possible to get caught.
>
> I've thought about it a lot based on the
> original discussion. I think there is only one
> thing (short of a bionic brain transplant) that
> would help me:
>
> Optionally make the transmit cursor on the P3
> and PSVGA either bright yellow or 'flash'
> (change intensity, not totally go on and off)
> slowly, or both.
>
> I focus on the pileup, looking at the P3 and
> listening to the subreceiver to find the best
> spot to call. The problem is that I can turn on
> the subreceiver and do all this without
> activating SPLIT. I need an indication that I
> can't miss that says YOU ARE TRANSMITTING HERE.
>
> I personally don't see red very well, so that's
> why I suggested yellow. The red transmit cursor
> doesn't stand out well for me. But some 8% of
> males have a problem of color perception, and my
> particular handicap is the most common.
>
> Note -- I said /optionally/. I know it would
> drive some folks nuts.
>

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Re: GCBAD [K3, P3]

Raymond Anderson
Vic try putting the sub rx on the dx and tune with the main vfo.  You won't
need split and the dx is probably not going to move.

Ray K8RDJ

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hmm, I just assumed it was something not GOOD, Vic :-)
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 3/14/15 12:22 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:
>
>> So what does GCBAD mean? It's an abbreviation used by my once-teenage son
>> and friends for Got Caught Being A Dork.
>>
>> And I GCBAD again for failing to activate SPLIT.
>>
>> I know we talked about this before. I have pretty much kept myself honest
>> by using a macro to activate split and the subreceiver, etc. But it's still
>> possible to get caught.
>>
>> I've thought about it a lot based on the original discussion. I think
>> there is only one thing (short of a bionic brain transplant) that would
>> help me:
>>
>> Optionally make the transmit cursor on the P3 and PSVGA either bright
>> yellow or 'flash' (change intensity, not totally go on and off) slowly, or
>> both.
>>
>> I focus on the pileup, looking at the P3 and listening to the subreceiver
>> to find the best spot to call. The problem is that I can turn on the
>> subreceiver and do all this without activating SPLIT. I need an indication
>> that I can't miss that says YOU ARE TRANSMITTING HERE.
>>
>> I personally don't see red very well, so that's why I suggested yellow.
>> The red transmit cursor doesn't stand out well for me. But some 8% of males
>> have a problem of color perception, and my particular handicap is the most
>> common.
>>
>> Note -- I said /optionally/. I know it would drive some folks nuts.
>>
>>
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Re: GCBAD [K3, P3]

gm3sek
>
>Vic try putting the sub rx on the dx and tune with the main vfo.  You
won't
>need split and the dx is probably not going to move.
>

If "DX" holds any of its original meaning of "DX = Distant, DX =
Difficult", then listening to the DX station on VFOB is a very bad idea.


Although the K3's two receivers are identical in lab performance, they
are not identical in terms of accessibility and ease of use. Apart from
the VFOB knob itself, other subRX controls can only be accessed by first
pressing the BSET button.

Why is this important? Because you need to copy *every detail* that the
DX stations sends! No matter how difficult it may be (and today we have
to include a high probability of deliberate jamming) you need to copy
the DX station's every instruction about where and when to call - and
when he comes back to you, you need to hear that he copied your callsign
correctly.

That is why you should always listen to the DX station on your best
receiver. The one that has all of its controls right there to hand. The
MAIN receiver.

If you listen to the DX station on the subRX, many of the important
controls like SHIFT, WIDTH and APF can only be accessed by pressing the
BSET button first - and while you're messing with that, Murphy will
ensure that you miss teh DX station sending something important.

But tuning the pileup is completely different. To plan your next call,
you need to tune quickly to find the frequency where the station
currently being worked is sending "5NN" or "fi-ni" - and that is all. No
other details are important, and because pileups are so fast-moving and
volatile, you won't even have time for any other controls. So why waste
the main RX on listening the pileup?

It really does seem perverse... and you probably know what I'm going to
say next ;-)  The only reason why anyone might want to adopt such a
poor, counterproductive strategy is to avoid being caught out by the
K3's dysfunctional SPLIT control.


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: GCBAD [K3, P3]

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
On 2015-03-15 9:28 AM, Ian White wrote:
> It really does seem perverse... and you probably know what I'm going
> to say next ;-) The only reason why anyone might want to adopt such
> a poor, counterproductive strategy is to avoid being caught out by
> the K3's dysfunctional SPLIT control.

*Don't go there again!*  There is nothing dysfunctional about the K3's
SPLIT control.  It does exactly what it is designed to do - move
transmit to the current setting of VFO B.  If you want Quick Split,
create a macro.

Would it have been better if the K3 used a 16 button control pad vs.
the 12 button pad?  Sure.  That would have allowed four buttons for VFO
control/selection: A/B, REV, A->B (B->A on hold), Split (Quick Split
on hold).  It would also have provided three buttons to directly select
mode - SSB, CW, DATA with "reverse" or DATA MD on hold - or be used for
six additional macros.  However, instead of the extra buttons we have a
K3 that is 16 mm narrower than it would have been.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


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