Have we gone Off Track?

[n4dsp]

This reflector used to be a Gold Mine for builders. It was fun sifting
through it and learning what others were experiencing and solutions being
offered by the Ron, Don, and Tom.

Lately it has become a place to post comments and feelings and most of the
time nothing related to the reflector's original intention. Am I the only
one to notice this? I sure hope we can get back on track but looks like we
are not going to go down that road again. All good things must come to an
end with "progress".

By the way, if I offend someone then I apologize so no need to waste more
space with this totally irrelevent topic.

john-n4dsp

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[Darwin, Keith]

Yea, I think we have.  Or at least the list has shifted and isn't the
same as it was.

It is the K3's fault.

Prior to the K3, we were all engaged in buying & building K1, K2, KX1
and mini-module units.  Now with the K3, I suspect most of us are on
hold.  We've ordered our K3 but are not ordering K1s, K2s, KX1s since we
need that money to pay for the K3.

My plans have changed.  I was planning on a K1.  Instead I'm in K3
limbo, waiting for my order to be filled.  I was planning on the DSP for
my K2 but no longer.  K3 will do that.

So with no building going on at my QTH there's nothing to talk about
except K3 deliveries, iambic paddles, and silly blonde jokes.

Will it ever come back?  Once the K3 gets out there I bet you'll see a
bunch of traffic about the assembly and operation of that rig.
Eventually the K3 wave will subside somewhat and you'll see more K1/2/X1
posts in the mix.  I bet it will take many months (years?) though.

Of course, when Elecraft comes out with the KPA800 and KPA1500 kits,
that will stir a bunch of kit building posts again.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

-----Original Message-----
From: john-n4dsp

This reflector used to be a Gold Mine for builders. It was fun sifting
through it and learning what others were experiencing and solutions
being offered by the Ron, Don, and Tom.

Lately it has become a place to post comments and feelings and most of
the time nothing related to the reflector's original intention. Am I the
only one to notice this?
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[Dave Martin-2]

> Lately it has become a place to post comments and feelings and most of
> the time nothing related to the reflector's original intention. Am I the
> only one to notice this?
>
Fred has "Rag Chew Central" and "Talk and Opinions" forums at QRZ.COM.
 That might be a better place for all the balderdash we've been having
to sort through.  Our guys wouldn't have the audience they desire
though, but at least it would be a willing audience I suppose.

Dave
W5DHM
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[dave.wilburn]

Is the beacon generating a specific tone?  WWV generates 500, and 600
Hz tones, as well as others.  Spectrogram can be used to calibrate if
a tone is available from the beacon.  N0SS site has downloads of the
last shareware version.


David Wilburn
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K4DGW
K2 #5982
FP#-1751


Darwin, Keith wrote:

> Yea, I think we have.  Or at least the list has shifted and isn't the
> same as it was.
>
> It is the K3's fault.
>
> Prior to the K3, we were all engaged in buying & building K1, K2, KX1
> and mini-module units.  Now with the K3, I suspect most of us are on
> hold.  We've ordered our K3 but are not ordering K1s, K2s, KX1s since we
> need that money to pay for the K3.
>
> My plans have changed.  I was planning on a K1.  Instead I'm in K3
> limbo, waiting for my order to be filled.  I was planning on the DSP for
> my K2 but no longer.  K3 will do that.
>
> So with no building going on at my QTH there's nothing to talk about
> except K3 deliveries, iambic paddles, and silly blonde jokes.
>
> Will it ever come back?  Once the K3 gets out there I bet you'll see a
> bunch of traffic about the assembly and operation of that rig.
> Eventually the K3 wave will subside somewhat and you'll see more K1/2/X1
> posts in the mix.  I bet it will take many months (years?) though.
>
> Of course, when Elecraft comes out with the KPA800 and KPA1500 kits,
> that will stir a bunch of kit building posts again.
>
> - Keith N1AS -
> - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
> - K3 Wave 3 -
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john-n4dsp
>
> This reflector used to be a Gold Mine for builders. It was fun sifting
> through it and learning what others were experiencing and solutions
> being offered by the Ron, Don, and Tom.
>
> Lately it has become a place to post comments and feelings and most of
> the time nothing related to the reflector's original intention. Am I the
> only one to notice this?
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[dave.wilburn]

Sorry, this was the XV50 thread.  I replied to the wrong one.  I
changed this subject to match.

David Wilburn
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FP#-1751


David Wilburn wrote:

> Is the beacon generating a specific tone?  WWV generates 500, and 600 Hz
> tones, as well as others.  Spectrogram can be used to calibrate if a
> tone is available from the beacon.  N0SS site has downloads of the last
> shareware version.
>
>
> David Wilburn
> [hidden email]
> K4DGW
> K2 #5982
> FP#-1751
>
>
> Darwin, Keith wrote:
>> Yea, I think we have.  Or at least the list has shifted and isn't the
>> same as it was.
>>
>> It is the K3's fault.
>>
>> Prior to the K3, we were all engaged in buying & building K1, K2, KX1
>> and mini-module units.  Now with the K3, I suspect most of us are on
>> hold.  We've ordered our K3 but are not ordering K1s, K2s, KX1s since we
>> need that money to pay for the K3.
>>
>> My plans have changed.  I was planning on a K1.  Instead I'm in K3
>> limbo, waiting for my order to be filled.  I was planning on the DSP for
>> my K2 but no longer.  K3 will do that.
>>
>> So with no building going on at my QTH there's nothing to talk about
>> except K3 deliveries, iambic paddles, and silly blonde jokes.
>>
>> Will it ever come back?  Once the K3 gets out there I bet you'll see a
>> bunch of traffic about the assembly and operation of that rig.
>> Eventually the K3 wave will subside somewhat and you'll see more K1/2/X1
>> posts in the mix.  I bet it will take many months (years?) though.
>>
>> Of course, when Elecraft comes out with the KPA800 and KPA1500 kits,
>> that will stir a bunch of kit building posts again.
>>
>> - Keith N1AS -
>> - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
>> - K3 Wave 3 -
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: john-n4dsp
>>
>> This reflector used to be a Gold Mine for builders. It was fun sifting
>> through it and learning what others were experiencing and solutions
>> being offered by the Ron, Don, and Tom.
>>
>> Lately it has become a place to post comments and feelings and most of
>> the time nothing related to the reflector's original intention. Am I the
>> only one to notice this? _______________________________________________
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[k6dgw]

Darwin, Keith wrote:
> Yea, I think we have.  Or at least the list has shifted and isn't the
> same as it was.

Hmmm ... the list has changed some, but you're right, the K3 both upped
the volume of postings just a little :-) and the fact that no one is
building them yet may have led to a bit more "idle chatter," maybe out
of boredom waiting, although if that's the case, some folks may have too
much idle time on their hands ;-)

Honestly however, I see lots of non-K3 Elecraft product and building
questions, all answered by the "usual suspects" [we all know who they
are, don't we].  I've also found this list to be a great source of info
about related stuff ... like the recent question about keyer paddle
options, likes, and dislikes, and the huge number of responses.  I have
two Benchers I'm sort of happy with, but after seeing all the posts and
hitting the URL's that many of them contained, I believe I'm going to
upgrade.  Andrea has been spending on her hobby quite a bit lately, and
under our "Equal Hobby Allowance" policy, each buck means a buck in my
radio account.  I might not have enough for a solid platinum Begali, but
I'm closing in.

I'm sure Eric will advise us if things are getting out of hand.  BTW,
the new web archive is pretty cool.  I may set my reflector option to
"no mail" as soon as I find my password.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party  4-5 Oct 08
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[Julian, G4ILO]

You're right, though since the K3 is modular assembly I doubt if
you'll see the kind of questions and answers the true kits generated.
As someone with 3 or 4 weeks still to wait for delivery, I was really
looking forward to reading the experiences of those who received the
initial K3s. That hasn't happened - only one new owner has posted.

The real difference, I think, is that the K3 appeals to those whose
main interest is in *operating* and not building. Those guys are
interested in different things. I also think this will tip the balance
toward QRO instead of QRP. There are too many diverse interests in the
membership now for every list posting to be of interest to all.
--
Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392  K3 s/n: ???
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On 10/16/07, Darwin, Keith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It is the K3's fault.
>
> Will it ever come back?  Once the K3 gets out there I bet you'll see a
> bunch of traffic about the assembly and operation of that rig.
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