Help -- stuck in MCU LD
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Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss of
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD. Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the manual -- can get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no backlight). But nothing past that. Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load." It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware load" point and nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good communication to the radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving? Or something else I missed in the manual? Grant/NQ5T _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Please restart the K3 Utility. Is this the Windows or Mac version of the K3
Utility? You're pressing the "Send All Firmware" button on the Firmware page, right? Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:21 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss of communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD. Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the manual -- can get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no backlight). But nothing past that. Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps. 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load." It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware load" point and nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good communication to the radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving? Or something else I missed in the manual? Grant/NQ5T _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Done several times. NO change.
Except now, I can test the port and got a good test at the right speed. The TX LED goes out, and the delta-F led comes on solid. WHen I try to upload firmware I get "K3 not responding". So it responds, then it doesn't. I don't have a good feeling about this. Don't believe it's the computer port. It seems to be the radio. It's the Mac version of the Utility. Grant/NQ5T On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Greg - AB7R wrote: > Grant, > > Sounds like the communications with the COM port were lost. Shut > down power on the > radio...unplug the power cable if necessary and the RS232 cable. > Reboot your computer. > Reconnect the RS232 and power cable and start the utility program. > Make sure its set for > 38.4K baud rate and click the button on the ports tab to test > communications. Then try to > load the firmware again. > > ------------------------- > 73, > Greg - AB7R > Whidbey Island WA > NA-065 > > > On Wed Dec 10 9:21 , Grant Youngman sent: > >> Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss of >> communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD. >> >> Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the manual -- >> can >> get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no >> backlight). But nothing past that. >> >> Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: >> >> 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 >> bps. >> 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 >> bps. >> 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 >> bps. >> 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 >> bps. >> 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load." >> >> It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware load" point and >> nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good communication to the >> radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. >> >> Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving? >> Or >> something else I missed in the manual? >> >> Grant/NQ5T >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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have you tried a reboot of the Mac?
-- It is almost impossible to carry the torch of truth through a crowd without singeing somebody's beard. -George Christopher Lichtenberg, scientist and philosopher (1742-1799) On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:42, Grant Youngman wrote: > Done several times. NO change. > > Except now, I can test the port and got a good test at the right > speed. The TX LED goes out, and the delta-F led comes on solid. > WHen I try to upload firmware I get "K3 not responding". So it > responds, then it doesn't. > > I don't have a good feeling about this. Don't believe it's the > computer port. It seems to be the radio. > > It's the Mac version of the Utility. > > Grant/NQ5T > > > On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Greg - AB7R wrote: > >> Grant, >> >> Sounds like the communications with the COM port were lost. Shut >> down power on the >> radio...unplug the power cable if necessary and the RS232 cable. >> Reboot your computer. >> Reconnect the RS232 and power cable and start the utility program. >> Make sure its set for >> 38.4K baud rate and click the button on the ports tab to test >> communications. Then try to >> load the firmware again. >> >> ------------------------- >> 73, >> Greg - AB7R >> Whidbey Island WA >> NA-065 >> >> >> On Wed Dec 10 9:21 , Grant Youngman sent: >> >>> Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss of >>> communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD. >>> >>> Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the manual -- >>> can >>> get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no >>> backlight). But nothing past that. >>> >>> Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: >>> >>> 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 >>> 38400 bps. >>> 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 >>> 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >>> 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >>> 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 >>> 38400 bps. >>> 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 >>> 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 >>> 38400 bps. >>> 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 >>> 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 >>> 38400 bps. >>> 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 >>> 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >>> 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load." >>> >>> It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware load" point and >>> nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good communication to >>> the >>> radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. >>> >>> Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it >>> moving? Or >>> something else I missed in the manual? >>> >>> Grant/NQ5T >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yes, It's the Mac version.
It fails. Every time. Usually, but not always, once I restart everything, I can use the "test comm" page to check, and get a good test. Then when I try loading firmware, it fails. 11:47:29 K3 is running main program. RS232 38400 bps. -- after this message the yellow led is on solid 11:47:29 New firmware is available for your K3 11:47:34 K3 is not responding. -- after hitting "send all new firmware" Grant/NQ5T " On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:42 AM, David Fleming wrote: > Hi Grant, > > I'm the author of the Mac version. The log looks like it came from > the Mac version of the Utility. As Dick suggested, restart the K3 > Utility and click "Send All Firmware to K3". If you're getting good > communication with the K3, the firmware load should proceed okay. > Let me know if it continues to fail. > > David, W4SMT > > > --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From: Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> >> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD >> To: "'Grant Youngman'" <[hidden email]>, "'Elecraft Reflector'" <[hidden email] >> > >> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:31 PM >> Please restart the K3 Utility. Is this the Windows or Mac >> version of the K3 >> Utility? >> >> You're pressing the "Send All Firmware" >> button on the Firmware page, right? >> >> Dick, K6KR >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [hidden email] >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of >> Grant Youngman >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:21 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD >> >> Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss >> of >> communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck >> in MCU LD. >> >> Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the >> manual -- can >> get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display >> (no >> backlight). But nothing past that. >> >> Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: >> >> 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. >> RS232 38400 bps. >> 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. >> RS232 38400 bps. >> 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. >> RS232 38400 bps. >> 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. >> RS232 38400 bps. >> 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 >> 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. >> 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware >> load." >> >> It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware >> load" point and >> nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good >> communication to the >> radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. >> >> Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it >> moving? Or >> something else I missed in the manual? >> >> Grant/NQ5T >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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what are you using to connect, presumably we are talking USB to Serial
adapter? Have you got the latest drivers for this. Although you don't say, I assume you normally have no trouble in doing an upgrade? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, Mac -- There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth. -Chinese proverb On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:50, Grant Youngman wrote: > Yes, It's the Mac version. > > It fails. Every time. Usually, but not always, once I restart > everything, I can use the "test comm" page to check, and get a good > test. Then when I try loading firmware, it fails. > > 11:47:29 K3 is running main program. RS232 38400 bps. -- after this > message the yellow led is on solid > 11:47:29 New firmware is available for your K3 > 11:47:34 K3 is not responding. -- after hitting "send all new > firmware" _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Help -- stuck in MCU LD -- SOLVED
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Problem solved, sort of. Switched to a Windows XP machine, and was
able to get everything to work. Same USB/RS-232 interface (Prolific 2303), but obviously not the same driver. So don't know if it is the USB driver (more likely), or the Mac version of Utility (probably less likely). In any case, it worked fine. I hate to keep one lousy Windows machine around for this sort of thing. Up until this update with 1.1.10.17 version of Utility, the Mac versions of everything have worked swimmingly. Grant/NQ5T On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: > Trying to put in 2.72. Something crashed and caused a loss of > communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD. > > Went through the procedure for forcing bootloads in the manual -- > can get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no > backlight). But nothing past that. > > Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17) log: > > 11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 > bps. > 11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3 > 11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. > 11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. > 11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 > bps. > 11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3 > 11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 > bps. > 11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3 > 11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 > bps. > 11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3 > 11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load. > 11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load." > > It just sits at the "... waiting for MCU firmware load" point and > nothing happens. The port checks ok, with good communication to > the radio. No yellow flashing led, ever. > > Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving? > Or something else I missed in the manual? > > Grant/NQ5T _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Re: Help -- stuck in MCU LD -- SOLVED
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That may have been the problem, although it has worked without a hitch
for several updates. After getting the radio working again with Windows, I reloaded the Prolific drivers on the Mac, and fiddled a bit more. Then everything on the Mac was back to normal, too. Just one of those things. There are a lot of brand names of USB/ Serial converters. Don't know about the Keyspan version, but a large number of these things, regardless of brand, use the same Prolific chip, perhaps with different drivers. Anyway, it's working. I am going to go hunting for a different interface, however, if the problem reoccurs. It's too much hassle to drag out the old Windows PC :) Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Willard Myers wrote: > > > I've done numerous K3 firmware updates from my Mac OS X machine with > not a single issue. Also, my home-grown logging program talks to the > K3 with no issues. I'm using a Keyspan USB-serial device. I'd > suspect that Prolific thing :-< > > Bill, K1GQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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