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How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

I would like to have more programmable macro slots:
I'm already using 7 macros so I only have 1 left (unless I'm reading it wrong we only have 8 internal macros). Once you start using rotatable macros they get used up pretty quickly

I plan to add a Genovation Keypad but more Internal to the K3 macros would be useful for rotatable macros.
Is there a way to get more than 8?
Thank you

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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

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Hi Harry,

There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation by creating a self-modifying macro.

Wayne

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> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I would like to have more programmable macro slots:
> I'm already using 7 macros so I only have 1 left (unless I'm reading it wrong we only have 8 internal macros). Once you start using rotatable macros they get used up pretty quickly
>
> I plan to add a Genovation Keypad but more Internal to the K3 macros would be useful for rotatable macros.
> Is there a way to get more than 8?
> Thank you
>
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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ?
Yes, I'm currently using as you cal them "Reversable" macros(one is using 5 macros, the other uses 2 macros)

From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Hi Harry,

There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation by creating a self-modifying macro.

Wayne

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Vic Rosenthal

Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

The first 8 are the tap and hold functions of the four message buttons,
M1 - M4. The last two are the hold functions of the RIT and XIT buttons
(PF1 and PF2).

On 3 Mar 2015 15:48, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> 10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ? Yes, I'm currently using as you
> cal them "Reversable" macros(one is using 5 macros, the other uses 2
> macros)
>
>
>
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> To: Harry Yingst
> <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros?
> (feature request?)
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a
> way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation
> by creating a self-modifying macro.
>
> Wayne
>
> ---- http://www.elecraft.com

Warren Merkel

Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

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Wayne,

*Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
smart guys elaborate?

For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
I would like it to do this without having an external application
controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
what was just done.

Using the sample macro from Table 2 in the Programmers Reference for
"AMP ON" and let's just assign it to say, Macro 1

In pseudo-code, I'd like it to run:

MN019;MP001;MN255;PC065;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB78

and then, before the macro finishes, I would like it to rewrite itself to:

MN019;MP000;MN255;PC100;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB70;DB70

Each time Macro 1 is executed, it toggles the Logic 1 output and alters
the power output and displays "AMP ON" (or AMP OFF). One button thus
becomes a toggle. Press a button, the external amp is enabled, and the
drive is lowered for it. Press it again, and the amp is disabled and
drive is raised back.

Seems like all I need is a macro command that allows a new macro string
to be written, especially to the one running at the time :)
You could also have one macro change other macros in this way. In
effect, you would only be limited by your imagination and what you can
get stored in 120 character pieces. Hopefully we aren't limited in how
many FLASH Write operations can be performed to the EEPROM. (1 million
or more maybe? )

Since the K3 Utility obviously has the ability to write to the macro
storage locations, would it be possible for macros to eat their own dog
food too?

If the macro language supports basic branching, I guess it could be done
inline to the macro and not have to rewrite itself so...

*Q2*: Is there a way to do IIF (or IF/ELSE) branching in a single
macro? (strictly a wishlist item)

In other words: IF (value) THEN (macro string) ELSE (another macro
string)

All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.

Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...

KD4Z - Warren
(K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)

On 3/3/2015 8:48 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> 10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ?
> Yes, I'm currently using as you cal them "Reversable" macros(one is using 5 macros, the other uses 2 macros)
>
>
>
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation by creating a self-modifying macro.
>
> Wayne
>
> ----
> http://www.elecraft.com
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to have more programmable macro slots:
>> I'm already using 7 macros so I only have 1 left (unless I'm reading it wrong we only have 8 internal macros). Once you start using rotatable macros they get used up pretty quickly
>>
>> I plan to add a Genovation Keypad but more Internal to the K3 macros would be useful for rotatable macros.
>> Is there a way to get more than 8?
>> Thank you
>>
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Cady, Fred

Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

I don't know who first came up with this clever idea but here is the concept and an example:

The concept is this:
* Program a macro, say MACRO 7, and assign it to a function key, say PF2, to perform the first of sequence of commands. End the macro definition by assigning PF2 to the next macro command sequence, say MACRO 8.
* Program MACRO 8 to do the second sequence of commands and end it by assigning PF2 to perform MACRO 7.
Here is how it would work to use PF2 to enter the Split mode using the dual-watch receiver with the first hold, and then to exit Split mode with the second hold of PF2.
* Using the Utility, assign MACRO 7 to:
SWT25;SWT25;FT0;SB1;UP7;MN110;SWT33;SWH26;MN255;
The first five enter dual-watch and QSY VFO A up 5. The other commands assign MACRO 8 to PF2:
MN110; Enter the MACRO x menu (equivalent to holding MENU and rotating VFO B to MACRO x).
SWT33; Tap the 8 switch.
SWH26; Hold PF2. (This assigns PF2 to the commands in MACRO 8.)
MN255; Exit menu mode.
Now,
* Assign MACRO 8 to:
SWT25;SWT25;FT0;SB0;MN110;SWT32;SWH26;MN255;
SWT32; Tap the 7 switch.
SWH26; Hold PF2. (This assigns PF2 to the commands stored in MACRO 7.)
Send the macros to the K3 using the K3 utility and then enter the MACRO 7 menu and hold PF2 to assign it to enter Split mode. The next PF2 hold will take us out of Split. Subsequent holds toggle back and forth.

Neato, eh?

Cheers,
Fred KE7X

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Warren Merkel
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros?
> (feature request?)
>
> Wayne,
>
> *Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
> found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
> smart guys elaborate?
>
> For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
> I would like it to do this without having an external application
> controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
> or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
> what was just done.
>
> Using the sample macro from Table 2 in the Programmers Reference for
> "AMP ON" and let's just assign it to say, Macro 1
>
> In pseudo-code, I'd like it to run:
>
> MN019;MP001;MN255;PC065;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB78
>
> and then, before the macro finishes, I would like it to rewrite itself
> to:
>
> MN019;MP000;MN255;PC100;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB70;DB70
>
> Each time Macro 1 is executed, it toggles the Logic 1 output and alters
> the power output and displays "AMP ON" (or AMP OFF). One button thus
> becomes a toggle. Press a button, the external amp is enabled, and
> the drive is lowered for it. Press it again, and the amp is disabled
> and drive is raised back.
>
> Seems like all I need is a macro command that allows a new macro string
> to be written, especially to the one running at the time :)
> You could also have one macro change other macros in this way. In
> effect, you would only be limited by your imagination and what you can
> get stored in 120 character pieces. Hopefully we aren't limited in
> how
> many FLASH Write operations can be performed to the EEPROM. (1 million
> or more maybe? )
>
> Since the K3 Utility obviously has the ability to write to the macro
> storage locations, would it be possible for macros to eat their own dog
> food too?
>
> If the macro language supports basic branching, I guess it could be
> done inline to the macro and not have to rewrite itself so...
>
> *Q2*: Is there a way to do IIF (or IF/ELSE) branching in a single
> macro? (strictly a wishlist item)
>
> In other words: IF (value) THEN (macro string) ELSE (another macro
> string)
>
> All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
> modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.
>
> Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...
>
> KD4Z - Warren
> (K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/3/2015 8:48 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > 10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ?
> > Yes, I'm currently using as you cal them "Reversable" macros(one is
> > using 5 macros, the other uses 2 macros)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> > To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros?
> > (feature request?)
> >
> > Hi Harry,
> >
> > There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a
> way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation by
> creating a self-modifying macro.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > ----
> > http://www.elecraft.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to have more programmable macro slots:
> >> I'm already using 7 macros so I only have 1 left (unless I'm reading
> >> it wrong we only have 8 internal macros). Once you start using
> >> rotatable macros they get used up pretty quickly
> >>
> >> I plan to add a Genovation Keypad but more Internal to the K3 macros
> would be useful for rotatable macros.
> >> Is there a way to get more than 8?
> >> Thank you
> >>
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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

In reply to this post by Warren Merkel

Here is an example of a rotatable macro Everytime I Press the PF2button it changes frequency then tells the PF2 button to now use the next Macro

=============================================================================== 60 Meter Channels - Uses Macros 4-8 and Button PF2
CH1 =5.330.5 , CH2 =5.346.5 , CH3 =5.357.0 , CH4 =5.371.5 , CH4 =5.403.5 =============================================================================== Macro 4 Label = 60M CH1 Commands = FA00005330500;MD2;MN110;SWT27;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 5 Label = 60M CH2 Commands = FA00005346500;MD2;MN110;SWT29;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 6 Label = 60M CH3 Commands = FA00005357000;MD2;MN110;SWT33;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 7 Label = 60M CH4 Commands = FA00005371500;MD2;MN110;SWT34;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 8 Label = 60M CH5 Commands = FA00005403500;MD2;MN110;SWT24;SWH47;SWT14;===============================================================================
From: Warren Merkel <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Wayne,

*Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
smart guys elaborate?

For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
I would like it to do this without having an external application
controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
what was just done.

Using the sample macro from Table 2 in the Programmers Reference for
"AMP ON" and let's just assign it to say, Macro 1

In pseudo-code, I'd like it to run:

MN019;MP001;MN255;PC065;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB78

and then, before the macro finishes, I would like it to rewrite itself to:

MN019;MP000;MN255;PC100;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB70;DB70

Each time Macro 1 is executed, it toggles the Logic 1 output and alters
the power output and displays "AMP ON" (or AMP OFF). One button thus
becomes a toggle. Press a button, the external amp is enabled, and the
drive is lowered for it. Press it again, and the amp is disabled and
drive is raised back.

Seems like all I need is a macro command that allows a new macro string
to be written, especially to the one running at the time :)
You could also have one macro change other macros in this way. In
effect, you would only be limited by your imagination and what you can
get stored in 120 character pieces. Hopefully we aren't limited in how
many FLASH Write operations can be performed to the EEPROM. (1 million
or more maybe? )

Since the K3 Utility obviously has the ability to write to the macro
storage locations, would it be possible for macros to eat their own dog
food too?

If the macro language supports basic branching, I guess it could be done
inline to the macro and not have to rewrite itself so...

*Q2*: Is there a way to do IIF (or IF/ELSE) branching in a single
macro? (strictly a wishlist item)

In other words: IF (value) THEN (macro string) ELSE (another macro
string)

All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.

Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...

KD4Z - Warren
(K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)

On 3/3/2015 8:48 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

In reply to this post by Vic Rosenthal

I think you are confusing what I'm looking for.
Yes I can program 10 buttons, but I'm looking for more thb 8 internal macros.If you go into the K3 menus you will find Function MACRO 1 - MACRO 8.
When you use rotatable macros you can use a single button to have it rotate through macros.
Example:
Press PF1 and it switches WWV on 5 MHz
Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 10 Mhz
Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 15 Mhz

Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 20 Mhz

Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 25 Mhz

Press PF1 Again and it switches Back to WWV on 5 Mhz
... and repeat

From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

The first 8 are the tap and hold functions of the four message buttons,
M1 - M4. The last two are the hold functions of the RIT and XIT buttons
(PF1 and PF2).

On 3 Mar 2015 15:48, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

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This is the Key part to use at the end of your Macros "MN110;SWT12;SWH45;SWT14;"That string is saying to go into the Menu Select a Macro (Macro 2 in this case) and write it to PF1

MN110 = Macro x (Selects Macro)
SWT11 = Tap 1
SWT12 = Tap 2
SWT13 = Tap 3
SWT24 = Tap 4
SWT27 = Tap 5
SWT29 = Tap 6
SWT33 = Tap 7
SWT34 = Tap 8
SWH45 = Hold PF1
SWH47 = Hold PF2
SWT14 = Tap Menu Button (Exits)

From: "Cady, Fred" <[hidden email]>
To: Warren Merkel <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

I don't know who first came up with this clever idea but here is the concept and an example:

The concept is this:
*    Program a macro, say MACRO 7, and assign it to a function key, say PF2, to perform the first of sequence of commands. End the macro definition by assigning PF2 to the next macro command sequence, say MACRO 8.
*    Program MACRO 8 to do the second sequence of commands and end it by assigning PF2 to perform MACRO 7.
Here is how it would work to use PF2 to enter the Split mode using the dual-watch receiver with the first hold, and then to exit Split mode with the second hold of PF2.
*    Using the Utility, assign MACRO 7 to:
SWT25;SWT25;FT0;SB1;UP7;MN110;SWT33;SWH26;MN255;
The first five enter dual-watch and QSY VFO A up 5. The other commands assign MACRO 8 to PF2:
MN110;    Enter the MACRO x menu (equivalent to holding MENU and rotating VFO B to MACRO x).
SWT33;    Tap the 8 switch.
SWH26;    Hold PF2. (This assigns PF2 to the commands in MACRO 8.)
MN255;    Exit menu mode.
Now,
*    Assign MACRO 8 to:
SWT25;SWT25;FT0;SB0;MN110;SWT32;SWH26;MN255;
SWT32;    Tap the 7 switch.
SWH26;    Hold PF2. (This assigns PF2 to the commands stored in MACRO 7.)
Send the macros to the K3 using the K3 utility and then enter the MACRO 7 menu and hold PF2 to assign it to enter Split mode. The next PF2 hold will take us out of Split. Subsequent holds toggle back and forth.

Neato, eh?

Cheers,
Fred KE7X

k1htv

Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

In reply to this post by Warren Merkel

Seeing the request for self modifying macros, I thought I'd re-post these how-to documents that I posted on this reflector a number of years ago. Hopefully they will help you understand how to create your own macros which can be used to rotate between a series of parameter changes via a single PF1 or PF2 key press. Have fun playing with them, without as many headaches that I had in learning how to get them to work.

73,
Rich - K1HTV

For those of you who want to play more with macros, here are four that I use to set up my K3 for USB, CW, DATA-A and RTTY. Parameters that are set up include mode, receiver bandwidth, audio input connector (Front Panel for microphone, rear Line-In jack for DATA-A modes), Mic Gain and Compression level for SSB, CW Speed, VFO lock for DATA-A modes like PSK31, JT65 and WSPR. You can add or change other parameters in the macros for the various modes as you see fit.

Macros are created using the "K3 Utility" program on a computer connected to the K3 via one of its COM ports. 16 Macros can be save in the "K3 Utility" but only the first 8 macros can be uploaded to the K3. The macros can be tested using the "K3 Utlity" in real time. Once they have been uploaded to the eight K3 internal macro memory locations, they can be assigned to various keys. Each can be assigned to any of the M1-4 (Tap) keys, or M1-4 (Hold), or the PF1 or PF2 (Hold) keys.

***NOTE***

In the case below, 7 macros are created using the "K3 Utility" program. The first 4 macros (associated with 4 different modes) are loaded into MACRO memory positions 1,2,3 & 4 and programmed into the PF1 key. The last 3 macros (associated with setting 3 different power levels) are loaded into MACRO memory positions 5, 6 & 7.

After they are loaded, when you HOLD the PF1 key the K3 will toggle between the USB, CW, DATA-A and RTTY modes. The 7 character mnemonic assigned to that mode wil flash briefly on the LCD screen. Wait for it to flash before HOLDing the PF1 button to toggle to the next mode.

In a similar manner, when you HOLD the PF2 key, the power K3 level will switch to one of three different power settings.

Mem MacroLabel Macro Commands
------------------------------
#1 USB-PF1 MD2;LK0;MN053;DN;DN;MG026;BW0250;CP020;MN110;SWT12;SWH45;SWT14;

Explanation of commands:
(Set mode to USB;Unlock VFO;Select the Front Panel mic jack(MN053;DN;DN);Set bandwidth to 2.5 KHz;Set Compression to 20;Set Macro#2 to be next one used; Menu exit).

***NOTE***
After switching to the USB mode on 40M, 80M or 160M with the PF1H key, don't forget to hold the MODE (ALT) key to change to the LSB mode for those bands.

#2 CW-PF1 MD3;LK0;BW0040;KS025;MN110;SWT13;SWH45;SWT14;

(Set mode to CW;Unlocks VFO;Set bandwidth to 400 Hz;Set CW mode to REV (I like to tune up into CW signals); Set Macro#3 to be the next one used;Menu exit)

#3 DTA-PF1 MD6;DT0;MN053;UP;UP;BW0250;PC050;LK1;MN110;SWT24;SWH45;SWT14;
(Set mode to DATA Mode;Set to DATA-A mode;Select 'Line In' jack on rear of K3 (MN053;UP;UP);Set Bandwidth to 2.5 KHz;Lock VFO;Set macro #4 to be the next one used; Menu exit)

#4 RTT-PF1 MD6;DT2;MN053;DN;DN;BW0050;PC080;LK0;MN110;SWT11;SWH45;SWT14;
(Set mode to DATA;Set to FSK-D;Set bandwidth to 50 Hz;Unlock VFO;Set macro #1 to be the next one used;Menu exit) The next 3 macros (5,6 & 7) use the PF2-HOLD key to toggle the K3 between three power levels, 10, 50 & 100 Watts.

MacroLabel Macro Commands
#5 10W-PF2 PC010;MN110;SWT29;SWH47;SWT14;
#6 50W-PF2 PC050;MN110;SWT33;SWH47;SWT14;
#7 100WPF2 PC100;MN110;SWT27;SWH47;SWT14;

= = =
The following refers to the 4 mode macros and the sequence chosen to switch between each of them.

The "#" below is the number of the macro memory location in which to store the particular macro in the K3. Since each macro command references a particular K3 memory to be used, do NOT change the K3 memories in which the macros are stored without making any necessary changes to the "MN110;SWTnn;" command.

The sequence that holding the PF1 key will follow can be changed by changing the SWTnn command for each mode. In the example below, by holding the PF1 key, the switching sequence is USB, CW, DATA-A, RTTY, then back to USB. The two macro commands used to set up the next mode called is the MN110 (MACRO) followed by the SWTnn (keypad number 1-4) corresponding to the four modes programmed into those keys).

Here is what is used for the sequence USB,CW,DATA-A,RTTY,USB :
USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT12 = Use Macro #2 (CW) next
CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next

Here is what is used for the sequence RTTY,DATA-A,CW,USB:
USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (CW) next
CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next

Here is what is used for the sequence CW,RTTY,DATA-A,USB:
CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next
USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT12 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next

= = =

Once you have determined the mode sequence, here is the procedure used to program multiple macros into one of the PF1, PF2 or M1-8 keys:

With the K3 powered on, open the K3 Utility.
Click on the "Port" tab then click "Test Communications".
If the test is successful, click OK and proceed.
Click on the "Command Tester/K3 Macro" tab.
Click on "Edit Macros" in the upper right corner.
You can cut the "Macro Label" and the "Macro Commands" from above and paste them into the correct boxes for each macro number. The #[1-7] identifies which macro memory number in the K3 Utiliy to paste the info into.

When all the data has been entered:
Click on "Write Macros 1-8 to K3".
Click "Save" then close or minimize the K3 Utility.

Next, at the K3, to assign the four macros to the PF1 HOLD key:
1) Hold the MENU key.
2) Rotate the VFO-B dial so it reads to "MACRO" on the lower half of the LCD screen and the word "FUNCTION" above it.
3) Tap the first macro # to be entered (tap keypad #1). The LCD will read "Function MACRO #"
4) HOLD the PF1 key until "PF1 SET" appears. Next tap keypad #2, the hold PF1 again, then tap keypad #3 and hold PF1. Finally tap keypad #4 and hold PF1. All macros have now been programmed into PF1-HOLD key.
5) Tap the "Menu" key and MACRO will disappear from the LCD display.

Follow the same steps to assign the three "Power Level" macros 5,6 & 7 to the PF2-HOLD key.

Test the mode change with repeatedly HOLD (not TAP) the PF1 key. You should see a brief mnemonic on the LCD screen for each mode.
Test power level with HOLD of the PF2 key. You should see a brief mnemonic on the LCD screen for each power level.

73,
Rich - K1HTV
ps

There is another macro which can be placed in the 8th memory and assigned to the M4 (HOLD) key:

Mem MacroLabel Macro Commands
------------------------------
#8 SCAN-M4 SWT15;SWT15;SWT15:SWT15;SWH41;

Follow the same 5 steps above to assign the macro in K3 macro memory #8 to the M4 (HOLD) key.

To do a scan, first set VFO-A to lowest frequency to be scanned. Next set VFO-B to the highest frequency to be scanned. Tap V>M then rotate VFO-A to channel 00. Tap V>M again to store the two freqs in Frequency Memory channel 00. To start the scan hold the M4 key.

= = = = = = = = =

Wayne,

*Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
smart guys elaborate?

For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
I would like it to do this without having an external application
controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
what was just done.

............

All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.

Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...

KD4Z - Warren
(K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)

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Rich,

Thanks for re-posting this info.

Note that some of the commands embedded in your macros may not be needed since they are already remembered on a per-mode basis. For example, once you've selected CW REV on a given band, it will always be CW REV until you change it. There are other cases as well, left as an exercise for the the reader :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Rich - K1HTV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Seeing the request for self modifying macros, I thought I'd re-post these how-to documents that I posted on this reflector a number of years ago. Hopefully they will help you understand how to create your own macros which can be used to rotate between a series of parameter changes via a single PF1 or PF2 key press. Have fun playing with them, without as many headaches that I had in learning how to get them to work.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>
> For those of you who want to play more with macros, here are four that I use to set up my K3 for USB, CW, DATA-A and RTTY. Parameters that are set up include mode, receiver bandwidth, audio input connector (Front Panel for microphone, rear Line-In jack for DATA-A modes), Mic Gain and Compression level for SSB, CW Speed, VFO lock for DATA-A modes like PSK31, JT65 and WSPR. You can add or change other parameters in the macros for the various modes as you see fit.
>
> Macros are created using the "K3 Utility" program on a computer connected to the K3 via one of its COM ports. 16 Macros can be save in the "K3 Utility" but only the first 8 macros can be uploaded to the K3. The macros can be tested using the "K3 Utlity" in real time. Once they have been uploaded to the eight K3 internal macro memory locations, they can be assigned to various keys. Each can be assigned to any of the M1-4 (Tap) keys, or M1-4 (Hold), or the PF1 or PF2 (Hold) keys.
>
> ***NOTE***
>
> In the case below, 7 macros are created using the "K3 Utility" program. The first 4 macros (associated with 4 different modes) are loaded into MACRO memory positions 1,2,3 & 4 and programmed into the PF1 key. The last 3 macros (associated with setting 3 different power levels) are loaded into MACRO memory positions 5, 6 & 7.
>
> After they are loaded, when you HOLD the PF1 key the K3 will toggle between the USB, CW, DATA-A and RTTY modes. The 7 character mnemonic assigned to that mode wil flash briefly on the LCD screen. Wait for it to flash before HOLDing the PF1 button to toggle to the next mode.
>
> In a similar manner, when you HOLD the PF2 key, the power K3 level will switch to one of three different power settings.
>
> Mem MacroLabel Macro Commands
> ------------------------------
> #1 USB-PF1 MD2;LK0;MN053;DN;DN;MG026;BW0250;CP020;MN110;SWT12;SWH45;SWT14;
>
> Explanation of commands:
> (Set mode to USB;Unlock VFO;Select the Front Panel mic jack(MN053;DN;DN);Set bandwidth to 2.5 KHz;Set Compression to 20;Set Macro#2 to be next one used; Menu exit).
>
> ***NOTE***
> After switching to the USB mode on 40M, 80M or 160M with the PF1H key, don't forget to hold the MODE (ALT) key to change to the LSB mode for those bands.
>
>
> #2 CW-PF1 MD3;LK0;BW0040;KS025;MN110;SWT13;SWH45;SWT14;
>
> (Set mode to CW;Unlocks VFO;Set bandwidth to 400 Hz;Set CW mode to REV (I like to tune up into CW signals); Set Macro#3 to be the next one used;Menu exit)
>
>
> #3 DTA-PF1 MD6;DT0;MN053;UP;UP;BW0250;PC050;LK1;MN110;SWT24;SWH45;SWT14;
> (Set mode to DATA Mode;Set to DATA-A mode;Select 'Line In' jack on rear of K3 (MN053;UP;UP);Set Bandwidth to 2.5 KHz;Lock VFO;Set macro #4 to be the next one used; Menu exit)
>
>
> #4 RTT-PF1 MD6;DT2;MN053;DN;DN;BW0050;PC080;LK0;MN110;SWT11;SWH45;SWT14;
> (Set mode to DATA;Set to FSK-D;Set bandwidth to 50 Hz;Unlock VFO;Set macro #1 to be the next one used;Menu exit) The next 3 macros (5,6 & 7) use the PF2-HOLD key to toggle the K3 between three power levels, 10, 50 & 100 Watts.
>
> MacroLabel Macro Commands
> #5 10W-PF2 PC010;MN110;SWT29;SWH47;SWT14;
> #6 50W-PF2 PC050;MN110;SWT33;SWH47;SWT14;
> #7 100WPF2 PC100;MN110;SWT27;SWH47;SWT14;
>
> = = =
> The following refers to the 4 mode macros and the sequence chosen to switch between each of them.
>
> The "#" below is the number of the macro memory location in which to store the particular macro in the K3. Since each macro command references a particular K3 memory to be used, do NOT change the K3 memories in which the macros are stored without making any necessary changes to the "MN110;SWTnn;" command.
>
> The sequence that holding the PF1 key will follow can be changed by changing the SWTnn command for each mode. In the example below, by holding the PF1 key, the switching sequence is USB, CW, DATA-A, RTTY, then back to USB. The two macro commands used to set up the next mode called is the MN110 (MACRO) followed by the SWTnn (keypad number 1-4) corresponding to the four modes programmed into those keys).
>
> Here is what is used for the sequence USB,CW,DATA-A,RTTY,USB :
> USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT12 = Use Macro #2 (CW) next
> CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
> DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
> RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next
>
> Here is what is used for the sequence RTTY,DATA-A,CW,USB:
> USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
> RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
> DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (CW) next
> CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next
>
> Here is what is used for the sequence CW,RTTY,DATA-A,USB:
> CW Macro #2, MN110;SWT24 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
> RTTY Macro #4, MN110;SWT13 = Use Macro #3 (DATA-A) next
> DATA-A Macro #3, MN110;SWT11 = Use Macro #1 (USB) next
> USB Macro #1 #1, MN110;SWT12 = Use Macro #4 (RTTY) next
>
> = = =
>
> Once you have determined the mode sequence, here is the procedure used to program multiple macros into one of the PF1, PF2 or M1-8 keys:
>
> With the K3 powered on, open the K3 Utility.
> Click on the "Port" tab then click "Test Communications".
> If the test is successful, click OK and proceed.
> Click on the "Command Tester/K3 Macro" tab.
> Click on "Edit Macros" in the upper right corner.
> You can cut the "Macro Label" and the "Macro Commands" from above and paste them into the correct boxes for each macro number. The #[1-7] identifies which macro memory number in the K3 Utiliy to paste the info into.
>
> When all the data has been entered:
> Click on "Write Macros 1-8 to K3".
> Click "Save" then close or minimize the K3 Utility.
>
> Next, at the K3, to assign the four macros to the PF1 HOLD key:
> 1) Hold the MENU key.
> 2) Rotate the VFO-B dial so it reads to "MACRO" on the lower half of the LCD screen and the word "FUNCTION" above it.
> 3) Tap the first macro # to be entered (tap keypad #1). The LCD will read "Function MACRO #"
> 4) HOLD the PF1 key until "PF1 SET" appears. Next tap keypad #2, the hold PF1 again, then tap keypad #3 and hold PF1. Finally tap keypad #4 and hold PF1. All macros have now been programmed into PF1-HOLD key.
> 5) Tap the "Menu" key and MACRO will disappear from the LCD display.
>
> Follow the same steps to assign the three "Power Level" macros 5,6 & 7 to the PF2-HOLD key.
>
> Test the mode change with repeatedly HOLD (not TAP) the PF1 key. You should see a brief mnemonic on the LCD screen for each mode.
> Test power level with HOLD of the PF2 key. You should see a brief mnemonic on the LCD screen for each power level.
>
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
> ps
>
> There is another macro which can be placed in the 8th memory and assigned to the M4 (HOLD) key:
>
> Mem MacroLabel Macro Commands
> ------------------------------
> #8 SCAN-M4 SWT15;SWT15;SWT15:SWT15;SWH41;
>
> Follow the same 5 steps above to assign the macro in K3 macro memory #8 to the M4 (HOLD) key.
>
> To do a scan, first set VFO-A to lowest frequency to be scanned. Next set VFO-B to the highest frequency to be scanned. Tap V>M then rotate VFO-A to channel 00. Tap V>M again to store the two freqs in Frequency Memory channel 00. To start the scan hold the M4 key.
>
> = = = = = = = = =
>
> Wayne,
>
> *Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
> found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
> smart guys elaborate?
>
> For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
> I would like it to do this without having an external application
> controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
> or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
> what was just done.
>
> ............
>
> All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
> modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.
>
> Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...
>
> KD4Z - Warren
> (K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)
>
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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

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Understood. The limit is 8 for now, but looking at the EEPROM map, it appears that we could go to 16. I'll add this to the wish-list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I think you are confusing what I'm looking for.
> Yes I can program 10 buttons, but I'm looking for more thb 8 internal macros.If you go into the K3 menus you will find Function MACRO 1 - MACRO 8.
> When you use rotatable macros you can use a single button to have it rotate through macros.
> Example:
> Press PF1 and it switches WWV on 5 MHz
> Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 10 Mhz
> Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 15 Mhz
>
> Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 20 Mhz
>
> Press PF1 Again and it switches to WWV on 25 Mhz
>
> Press PF1 Again and it switches Back to WWV on 5 Mhz
> ... and repeat
>
>
>
> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)
>
> The first 8 are the tap and hold functions of the four message buttons,
> M1 - M4. The last two are the hold functions of the RIT and XIT buttons
> (PF1 and PF2).
>
> On 3 Mar 2015 15:48, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> 10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ? Yes, I'm currently using as you
>> cal them "Reversable" macros(one is using 5 macros, the other uses 2
>> macros)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> To: Harry Yingst
>> <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
>> <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros?
>> (feature request?)
>>
>> Hi Harry,
>>
>> There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a
>> way to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation
>> by creating a self-modifying macro.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> ---- http://www.elecraft.com
>
>
> --
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
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>
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From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
Cc: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Understood. The limit is 8 for now, but looking at the EEPROM map, it appears that we could go to 16. I'll add this to the wish-list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

Rick Prather

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Harry,

That is a great concept for making Macros. But, I think you can save 5
macro locations by using the "*" tag in your memories.

What I have done is program memory #60-64 with the 60 meter frequencies.
Then you tag each one with the "*". This means each time you select any one
of them as you move the tuning knob you will step through all 5 in a loop.

Rick
K6LE

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Here is an example of a rotatable macro Everytime I Press the PF2button it
> changes frequency then tells the PF2 button to now use the next Macro
>
> =============================================================================== 60
> Meter Channels - Uses Macros 4-8 and Button PF2
> CH1 =5.330.5 , CH2 =5.346.5 , CH3 =5.357.0 , CH4 =5.371.5 , CH4
> =5.403.5 =============================================================================== Macro
> 4 Label = 60M CH1 Commands =
> FA00005330500;MD2;MN110;SWT27;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro
> 5 Label = 60M CH2 Commands =
> FA00005346500;MD2;MN110;SWT29;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro
> 6 Label = 60M CH3 Commands =
> FA00005357000;MD2;MN110;SWT33;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro
> 7 Label = 60M CH4 Commands =
> FA00005371500;MD2;MN110;SWT34;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro
> 8 Label = 60M CH5 Commands =
> FA00005403500;MD2;MN110;SWT24;SWH47;SWT14;===============================================================================
> From: Warren Merkel <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature
> request?)
>
> Wayne,
>
> *Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
> found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
> smart guys elaborate?
>
> For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
> I would like it to do this without having an external application
> controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
> or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
> what was just done.
>
> Using the sample macro from Table 2 in the Programmers Reference for
> "AMP ON" and let's just assign it to say, Macro 1
>
> In pseudo-code, I'd like it to run:
>
> MN019;MP001;MN255;PC065;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB78
>
> and then, before the macro finishes, I would like it to rewrite itself to:
>
> MN019;MP000;MN255;PC100;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB70;DB70
>
> Each time Macro 1 is executed, it toggles the Logic 1 output and alters
> the power output and displays "AMP ON" (or AMP OFF). One button thus
> becomes a toggle. Press a button, the external amp is enabled, and the
> drive is lowered for it. Press it again, and the amp is disabled and
> drive is raised back.
>
> Seems like all I need is a macro command that allows a new macro string
> to be written, especially to the one running at the time :)
> You could also have one macro change other macros in this way. In
> effect, you would only be limited by your imagination and what you can
> get stored in 120 character pieces. Hopefully we aren't limited in how
> many FLASH Write operations can be performed to the EEPROM. (1 million
> or more maybe? )
>
> Since the K3 Utility obviously has the ability to write to the macro
> storage locations, would it be possible for macros to eat their own dog
> food too?
>
> If the macro language supports basic branching, I guess it could be done
> inline to the macro and not have to rewrite itself so...
>
> *Q2*: Is there a way to do IIF (or IF/ELSE) branching in a single
> macro? (strictly a wishlist item)
>
> In other words: IF (value) THEN (macro string) ELSE (another macro
> string)
>
> All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
> modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.
>
> Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...
>
> KD4Z - Warren
> (K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/3/2015 8:48 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > 10 ? How do I access Macros 8 & 9 ?
> > Yes, I'm currently using as you cal them "Reversable" macros(one is
> using 5 macros, the other uses 2 macros)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> > To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros?
> (feature request?)
> >
> > Hi Harry,
> >
> > There are actually 10 programmable function switches. There's also a way
> to use a single programmable switch to do a reversible operation by
> creating a self-modifying macro.
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > ----
> > http://www.elecraft.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to have more programmable macro slots:
> >> I'm already using 7 macros so I only have 1 left (unless I'm reading it
> wrong we only have 8 internal macros). Once you start using rotatable
> macros they get used up pretty quickly
> >>
> >> I plan to add a Genovation Keypad but more Internal to the K3 macros
> would be useful for rotatable macros.
> >> Is there a way to get more than 8?
> >> Thank you
> >>
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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Yes that would work but I'm planning on adding a Genovation keypad so a Macro works better for me
From: Rick Prather <[hidden email]>
To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Harry,
That is a great concept for making Macros. But, I think you can save 5 macro locations by using the "*" tag in your memories.
What I have done is program memory #60-64 with the 60 meter frequencies. Then you tag each one with the "*". This means each time you select any one of them as you move the tuning knob you will step through all 5 in a loop.
RickK6LE

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here is an example of a rotatable macro Everytime I Press the PF2button it changes frequency then tells the PF2 button to now use the next Macro

=============================================================================== 60 Meter Channels - Uses Macros 4-8 and Button PF2
CH1 =5.330.5 , CH2 =5.346.5 , CH3 =5.357.0 , CH4 =5.371.5 , CH4 =5.403.5 =============================================================================== Macro 4 Label = 60M CH1 Commands = FA00005330500;MD2;MN110;SWT27;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 5 Label = 60M CH2 Commands = FA00005346500;MD2;MN110;SWT29;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 6 Label = 60M CH3 Commands = FA00005357000;MD2;MN110;SWT33;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 7 Label = 60M CH4 Commands = FA00005371500;MD2;MN110;SWT34;SWH47;SWT14;------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Macro 8 Label = 60M CH5 Commands = FA00005403500;MD2;MN110;SWT24;SWH47;SWT14;===============================================================================
From: Warren Merkel <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Wayne,

*Q1*: Did you just say that macros can be self-modifying! I haven't
found the Write commands to do that yet. Can you or any other really
smart guys elaborate?

For example, Let's say I'd like to create a toggle with a single macro.
I would like it to do this without having an external application
controlling things. So, internal to the K3, a macro would perform one
or more functions, then before exiting, would rewrite itself to "unset"
what was just done.

Using the sample macro from Table 2 in the Programmers Reference for
"AMP ON" and let's just assign it to say, Macro 1

In pseudo-code, I'd like it to run:

MN019;MP001;MN255;PC065;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB78

and then, before the macro finishes, I would like it to rewrite itself to:

MN019;MP000;MN255;PC100;DB65;DB77;DB80;DB32;DB79;DB70;DB70

Each time Macro 1 is executed, it toggles the Logic 1 output and alters
the power output and displays "AMP ON" (or AMP OFF). One button thus
becomes a toggle. Press a button, the external amp is enabled, and the
drive is lowered for it. Press it again, and the amp is disabled and
drive is raised back.

Seems like all I need is a macro command that allows a new macro string
to be written, especially to the one running at the time :)
You could also have one macro change other macros in this way. In
effect, you would only be limited by your imagination and what you can
get stored in 120 character pieces. Hopefully we aren't limited in how
many FLASH Write operations can be performed to the EEPROM. (1 million
or more maybe? )

Since the K3 Utility obviously has the ability to write to the macro
storage locations, would it be possible for macros to eat their own dog
food too?

If the macro language supports basic branching, I guess it could be done
inline to the macro and not have to rewrite itself so...

*Q2*: Is there a way to do IIF (or IF/ELSE) branching in a single
macro? (strictly a wishlist item)

In other words: IF (value) THEN (macro string) ELSE (another macro
string)

All this comes from my experience in making SCOM 7K controllers self
modify it's macros to make wonderful things happen.

Thanks! This is about to become very interesting...

KD4Z - Warren
(K3 / P3 Kits scheduled to arrive this Monday)

On 3/3/2015 8:48 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the 'CW REV' reminder. Since the K3 remembers the sideband last programmed for a band I wish that there was a simple SSB mode change command which could be used in macros rather than a specific USB or LSB command.... or does this command already exist already? I believe that when I wrote the macros a few years ago I confirmed that such a command it wasn't available.

Thanks for a great radio. Next thing to do, after the dust settles, is to upgrade the sync boards used for the main and sub receivers.

73,
Rich - K1HTV

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Rich,

Thanks for re-posting this info.

Note that some of the commands embedded in your macros may not be needed since they are already remembered on a per-mode basis. For example, once you've selected CW REV on a given band, it will always be CW REV until you change it. There are other cases as well, left as an exercise for the the reader :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Rich - K1HTV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Seeing the request for self modifying macros, I thought I'd re-post these how-to documents that I posted on this reflector a number of years ago. Hopefully they will help you understand how to create your own macros which can be used to rotate between a series of parameter changes via a single PF1 or PF2 key press. Have fun playing with them, without as many headaches that I had in learning how to get them to work.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>
> For those of you who want to play more with macros, here are four that I use to set up my K3 for USB, CW, DATA-A and RTTY. Parameters that are set up include mode, receiver bandwidth, audio input connector (Front Panel for microphone, rear Line-In jack for DATA-A modes), Mic Gain and Compression level for SSB, CW Speed, VFO lock for DATA-A modes like PSK31, JT65 and WSPR. You can add or change other parameters in the macros for the various modes as you see fit.

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Re: How can I get more Programmable Macros? (feature request?)

Rich,

I am not certain if it answers your question, but the ALT button
switches between sidebands in SSB mode. It is available as SWH17;
Or the mode can be set explicitly with the MD command.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/4/2015 7:40 AM, Rich - K1HTV wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> Thanks for the 'CW REV' reminder. Since the K3 remembers the sideband last programmed for a band I wish that there was a simple SSB mode change command which could be used in macros rather than a specific USB or LSB command.... or does this command already exist already? I believe that when I wrote the macros a few years ago I confirmed that such a command it wasn't available.
>
> Thanks for a great radio. Next thing to do, after the dust settles, is to upgrade the sync boards used for the main and sub receivers.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
>
>

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