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Paul Grigorieff-2

How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over
from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a
"sign up" page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing
changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board.
Thanks a lot,
-Paul, N1HEL
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k5oai

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

go here:
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

down towards the bottom of the page click on the
[Unsubscribe or Edit] button

when the next page opens
(which is actually: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft )

enter your Email address and your Password
hit [Log in] button

scroll down the page that comes up
where it says *Set Digest Mode*
check the *On* button

scroll down the page and be sure to hit the
[Submit My Changes] button

all done <g>

On 5/29/2014 11:52 AM, Paul Grigorieff wrote:
> Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over
> from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a
> "sign up" page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing
> changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board.
> Thanks a lot,
> -Paul, N1HEL

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K5OAI
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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Paul,

Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only "advantage"
is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as
individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real
advantage.

IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and
place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode.
Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering.
I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter
to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in the subject line into that
Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to
look at them - sort of like my own personal "digest".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote:
> Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over
> from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a
> "sign up" page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing
> changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board.
>

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W2RMS

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

I do the same thing: separate Elecraft folder in my Gmail-based google apps email. And I also made the filter to bypass the Inbox and only apply the Elecraft label (archive right away). This way my unread message count does not include the Elecraft messages. So whenever I have the time - I just navigate to the Electaft label and read whatever new messages had arrived. I find this approach less distracting.

Slava Baytalskiy
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On May 30, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only "advantage" is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage.
>
> IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode. Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering.
> I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to look at them - sort of like my own personal "digest".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote:
>> Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over
>> from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a
>> "sign up" page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing
>> changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board.
>
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mcduffie

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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> Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only "advantage"
> is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as
> individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real
> advantage.

Not only that, but it creates much more work for you if you see
something that you want to comment back on. You have to edit out all of
the other messages and change the subject of your message, etc. It won't
thread right with everyone else either, because your message ID won't be
the same as the OP of that particular message your replying to. If
there's more than one to reply to, the work is obviously multiplied
again.

Of course, we've all seen examples of those who don't bother to do any
of that and just reply to the digest message with digest subject and all
of the messages left intact. They go on the ignore list immediately.

Single individual message filtered into a folder maintain the proper
subject and message ID and will thread properly. You look through the
Elecraft folder and kill what you don't want, keep what you do, and
reply to what you want if you want to. Better housekeeping, and it
doesn't cause extra work for others when your message doesn't thread
right or have the right subject line.

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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Same here. I have three folders:

* Elecraft
* K3 & KX3 Yahoo
* QRP-L

(plus others for non-ham purposes)

The only slight hicup comes when someone posts a
message to this list with [KX3] or [K3] in the
title since those are the filter parameters I use
for the second folder: No big deal, though.

73 -- Phil W7OX

On 5/30/14, 8:54 AM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

> I do the same thing: separate Elecraft folder in my Gmail-based google apps email. And I also made the filter to bypass the Inbox and only apply the Elecraft label (archive right away). This way my unread message count does not include the Elecraft messages. So whenever I have the time - I just navigate to the Electaft label and read whatever new messages had arrived. I find this approach less distracting.
>
> Slava Baytalskiy
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> W2RMS
>
> On May 30, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only "advantage" is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage.
>>
>> IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode. Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering.
>> I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to look at them - sort of like my own personal "digest".
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote:
>>> Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over
>>> from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a
>>> "sign up" page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing
>>> changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board.
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Dave Hachadorian-2

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm
>I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft
>filter to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in the subject line
>into that Elecraft folder.

That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just implemented it here
under Windows Live Mail.

For some reason, this reflector has an inordinate number of
off-topic posts. I guess the moderators (Elecraft crew) don't
want to alienate their customers by clamping down too quickly on
the OT posters, so people get carried away. Here are some OT
threads, just from just the last two weeks:

Learning Morse Code - 24 emails
Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails
64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails
CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails
Antenna Choices - 16 emails
4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails
E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails
PS2 is Dead - 12 emails
U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails

That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period.

We should all be more disciplined in posting things here, or
maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an independent moderator.
When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic posts, the
signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it becomes easy to
miss a good on-topic post.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

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Tony McClenny

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Dave,

100! agree - thanks

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm
>I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft
>filter to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in the subject line
>into that Elecraft folder.

That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just implemented it here
under Windows Live Mail.

For some reason, this reflector has an inordinate number of
off-topic posts. I guess the moderators (Elecraft crew) don't
want to alienate their customers by clamping down too quickly on
the OT posters, so people get carried away. Here are some OT
threads, just from just the last two weeks:

Learning Morse Code - 24 emails
Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails
64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails
CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails
Antenna Choices - 16 emails
4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails
E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails
PS2 is Dead - 12 emails
U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails

That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period.

We should all be more disciplined in posting things here, or
maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an independent moderator.
When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic posts, the
signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it becomes easy to
miss a good on-topic post.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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I'm glad Elecraft users have other interests and
all of the topics you mention below have some
relevance to Elecraft and ham radio; one was even
started by one of the Elecraft founders. Your
definition of "On Topic" is a tad narrow :-)

OTOH some of those threads did go on a bit long.
On Computers in the Stone Age I fully expected to
eventually hear from the inventor of the Abacus or
the stone tablet!

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/30/14, 10:52 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

> -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm
>> I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox,
>> and set an Elecraft
>> filter to put all email with "[Elecraft]" in
>> the subject line
>> into that Elecraft folder.
>
>
>
> That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just
> implemented it here
> under Windows Live Mail.
>
> For some reason, this reflector has an
> inordinate number of
> off-topic posts. I guess the moderators
> (Elecraft crew) don't
> want to alienate their customers by clamping
> down too quickly on
> the OT posters, so people get carried away.
> Here are some OT
> threads, just from just the last two weeks:
>
> Learning Morse Code - 24 emails
> Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails
> 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails
> CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails
> Antenna Choices - 16 emails
> 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off
> - 22 emails
> E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails
> PS2 is Dead - 12 emails
> U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails
>
> That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week
> period.
>
> We should all be more disciplined in posting
> things here, or
> maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an
> independent moderator.
> When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic
> posts, the
> signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it
> becomes easy to
> miss a good on-topic post.
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?

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One person's junk is another person's treasure.

Of these, I'd only call three of them truly off-topic.

I think the CW on 15 topic was started by Wayne, is it even possible for
Wayne or Eric's posts to be off-topic.

If we're going to eliminate topics like antennas, then I think the value
of the list will truly suffer.

As for the list mechanics, if it was a moderated list then a real, live
person would have to approve each and every post, and the list would be
very clean, and discussion very slow.

73 -- Lynn

On 5/30/2014 12:43 PM, Tony McClenny wrote:

> Learning Morse Code - 24 emails
> Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails
> 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails
> CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails
> Antenna Choices - 16 emails
> 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails
> E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails
> PS2 is Dead - 12 emails
> U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails
>
> That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period.