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Folks, lets close this way OT password thread now in the interest of relieving email overload for others.
73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ > On Dec 30, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Gwen Patton <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL > ........ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list?
Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL > file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating > the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower > case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number, > 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on > a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey. > > https://pwsafe.org/ > > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote: >>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down >> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost >> pension and a major followup security investigation. >> >> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure. >> >> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking >> your password; >> >> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember >> them all; >> >> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password >> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers. >> >> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to >> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing >> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult. >> >> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying >> solely on passwords. >> >> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the >> convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human > I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL > file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating > the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower > case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number, > 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on > a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey. > > https://pwsafe.org/ > > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote: >>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down >> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost >> pension and a major followup security investigation. >> >> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure. >> >> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking >> your password; >> >> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember >> them all; >> >> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password >> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers. >> >> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to >> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing >> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult. >> >> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying >> solely on passwords. >> >> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the >> convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human >> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this). >> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or >> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to >> <listname>-request@<domain> and doesn't contain a valid list command. >> >> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message >> headers, e.g., for this list: >> >> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft>, >> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> >> List-Archive: <http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/> >> List-Post: <mailto:[hidden email]> >> List-Help: <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help> >> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>, >> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=subscribe> >> >> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the >> -request address: >> >> unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>] >> Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password >> must match >> your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will >> be sent >> to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an >> address >> other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify >> `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no >> quotes!) >> >> >> This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it >> is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription >> terminated, automatically. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > -- > > -+-+-+-+- > Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time > http://quarktime.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL >> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating >> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower >> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number, >> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on >> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey. >> >> https://pwsafe.org/ >> >> 73, >> Gwen, NG3P >> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote: >>>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down >>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost >>> pension and a major followup security investigation. >>> >>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure. >>> >>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking >>> your password; >>> >>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember >>> them all; >>> >>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password >>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers. >>> >>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to >>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing >>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult. >>> >>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying >>> solely on passwords. >>> >>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the >>> convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human >> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL >> file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating >> the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower >> case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number, >> 12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on >> a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey. >> >> https://pwsafe.org/ >> >> 73, >> Gwen, NG3P >> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>>> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote: >>>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down >>> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost >>> pension and a major followup security investigation. >>> >>> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure. >>> >>> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking >>> your password; >>> >>> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember >>> them all; >>> >>> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password >>> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers. >>> >>> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to >>> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing >>> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult. >>> >>> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying >>> solely on passwords. >>> >>> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the >>> convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human >>> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this). >>> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or >>> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to >>> <listname>-request@<domain> and doesn't contain a valid list command. >>> >>> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message >>> headers, e.g., for this list: >>> >>> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft>, >>> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> >>> List-Archive: <http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/> >>> List-Post: <mailto:[hidden email]> >>> List-Help: <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help> >>> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>, >>> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=subscribe> >>> >>> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the >>> -request address: >>> >>> unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>] >>> Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password >>> must match >>> your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will >>> be sent >>> to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an >>> address >>> other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify >>> `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no >>> quotes!) >>> >>> >>> This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it >>> is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription >>> terminated, automatically. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> -+-+-+-+- >> Jenny Everywhere's Infinite: Quark Time >> http://quarktime.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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